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Keep runing away from the 46 QBR embrassment up there hoe. Checkmate. Dumb bitch


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Fuck who that I offend, rappers sit back, I'm about to begin
'Bout foul talk you sqwak, never even walked the walk
More or less destined to get tested, never been arrested


46 QBR hoe

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There are far more stats besides QBR which indicate that Caleb Sucks.

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46 QBR hoe


You never had no wins, sliding in these dens
With Timbs, with MAC-10's and broke friends
You got guns? Got guns too, what up, son?
Do you wanna battle for cash and see who sons who?

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46 QBR hoe


You never had no wins, sliding in these dens
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You got guns? Got guns too, what up, son?
Do you wanna battle for cash and see who sons who?



Chst gpt hoe. Get your shinebox. I checked mated your dumb ass back to Englewood.

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He They Xe Xem wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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46 QBR hoe


You never had no wins, sliding in these dens
With Timbs, with MAC-10's and broke friends
You got guns? Got guns too, what up, son?
Do you wanna battle for cash and see who sons who?



Chst gpt hoe. Get your shinebox. I checked mated your dumb ass back to Englewood.


Playa, turn your head round
Take off that crown, you've been robbed
Wake up, open the door
Don't cry no more, you've been robbed
You see, there are two kind of people in the world today
We have, the playas, and we have, the playa haters
Please don't hate me because I'm beautiful baby

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46 QBR checkmate bitch. Field's had the same QBR at his/there peak. Dumb ass

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46 QBR checkmate bitch. Field's had the same QBR at his/there peak. Dumb ass


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LGBTQ Time Hoe cant cope enough with his/there giant L.

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LGBTQ Time Hoe cant cope enough with his/there giant L.

All You Need Are A Big Pair of Shoes Bozo!


The same suckers with the gab about, killer instincts
But turned bitch and knowing damn well they lack
In this division the connoisseur, crackin' your head with a four by four
Realize sucker, I be the comin' like Noah
Always sending you down, perpetrating facadin' what you consider
A image, to me this is, just a scrimmage

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Nardi wrote:
Him 5th isn't outrageous.

It is. Stop it. He's been very good, but he's not been nearly one of the most elite and productive QBs in the league.

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You obviously think Caleb being 28th is outrageous.


I don't care if QBR says he's 28th in the league, because I don't care what QBR says. More broadly, I don't care where he ranks in the league overall in terms of production because while it would have been really nice for him to come into the league and light it up, that wasn't a realistic expectation for a rookie entering the league with what we now know was one of the worst offensive lines in football. This season is, as LTG put it when he was defending a 23 year old Justin Fields in his 2nd season, about growth as a QB and moral victories, and he's had plenty of both, seemingly overcoming some glaring struggles.

What I don't like, I'll grant you, is people like LTG who endeavor to deny his production even when it is obvious, because drafting Caleb meant their little crush (who sucked) had to go, and it seems Brick and I are the only ones willing to call them out on their blatant dishonesty.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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What I don't like, I'll grant you, is people like LTG who endeavor to deny his production even when it is obvious, because drafting Caleb meant their little crush (who sucked) had to go, and it seems Brick and I are the only ones willing to call them out on their blatant dishonesty.


Oh but his "production"
The Bears finished last in total offense per game this season
They are 31st in avg passing yardage per game
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Edit.

Haha why did you edit out the part where you said he had a distinct "lack of production" but then said he has "empty stats"? Which is it you boob?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Edit.

Haha why did you edit out the part where you said he had a distinct "lack of production" but then said he has "empty stats"? Which is it you boob?

Oh but his "production". Caleb ended the season essentially tied for 2nd worst in avg Td passes per game. Am I "denying" his production by acknowledging this?
Hey stupid how do you reconcile your contention that the extremely productive Caleb is 31st in Passing yardage per game of all QBs numbnuts?

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Edit.

Haha why did you edit out the part where you said he had a distinct "lack of production" but then said he has "empty stats"? Which is it you boob?

Oh but his "production". Caleb ended the season essentially tied for 2nd worst in avg Td passes per game. Am I "denying" his production by acknowledging this?
Hey stupid how do you reconcile your contention that the extremely productive Caleb is 31st in Passing yardage per game of all QBs numbnuts?

Well either he has no production or empty stats. He can't be unproductive of meaningless statistics. You can't even keep your dishonest criticisms straight.


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The company a high QBR QB keeps is who you would think. The company a low QBR QB keeps is also who you would think.

Agreed.

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Him 5th isn't outrageous.

It is. Stop it. He's been very good, but he's not been nearly one of the most elite and productive QBs in the league.

On a per play basis he has been. The Packers play at one of the slower paces in the league, and LaFleur has a run heavy scheme like most coaches from mcvay/shanny tree, so his overall counting stats are a bit lower but Love's been great. He also missed 2 games with injury and left early in 2 other games with injury, and was noticeably hobbled the first half of the season. If you want to say he's like 9th best instead of 5th that's fine but he's in that 5-10 range for sure.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Him 5th isn't outrageous.

It is. Stop it. He's been very good, but he's not been nearly one of the most elite and productive QBs in the league.

On a per play basis he has been. The Packers play at one of the slower paces in the league, and LaFleur has a run heavy scheme like most coaches from mcvay/shanny tree, so his overall counting stats are a bit lower but Love's been great. He also missed 2 games with injury and left early in 2 other games with injury, and was noticeably hobbled the first half of the season. If you want to say he's like 9th best instead of 5th that's fine but he's in that 5-10 range for sure.

Love is 19th in Y/G, 10th in TD/G, and 31st in Completion%. It's absurd to say he's anywhere near top 5 in the NFL, as QBR does, and realistically he's outside looking in on the top 10.

You think he should be considered Top 5 or Top 10 because of his Yards/Completion, yet you accuse Bears fans of clinging to one statistic to paint Caleb Williams as good? :lol:


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Him 5th isn't outrageous.

It is. Stop it. He's been very good, but he's not been nearly one of the most elite and productive QBs in the league.

On a per play basis he has been. The Packers play at one of the slower paces in the league, and LaFleur has a run heavy scheme like most coaches from mcvay/shanny tree, so his overall counting stats are a bit lower but Love's been great. He also missed 2 games with injury and left early in 2 other games with injury, and was noticeably hobbled the first half of the season. If you want to say he's like 9th best instead of 5th that's fine but he's in that 5-10 range for sure.

Love is 19th in Y/G, 10th in TD/G, and 31st in Completion%. It's absurd to say he's anywhere near top 5 in the NFL, as QBR does, and realistically he's outside looking in on the top 10.

You think he should be considered Top 5 or Top 10 because of his Yards/Completion, yet you accuse Bears fans of clinging to one statistic to paint Caleb Williams as good? :lol:

Yards per game and TDs per game are explained by my above post. Packers wide receivers lead the NFL in drops, which affects his completion percentage a good bit. I never mentioned yards/completion but since you brought it up, his high ADOT and YPA also affect his completion percentage, he's often hunting for big plays, which I consider a positive. Since I never mentioned yards/completion until you brought it up, your last sentence makes no sense, but I've come to find that is standard for you when talking about football.

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FavreFan wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nardi wrote:
Him 5th isn't outrageous.

It is. Stop it. He's been very good, but he's not been nearly one of the most elite and productive QBs in the league.

On a per play basis he has been. The Packers play at one of the slower paces in the league, and LaFleur has a run heavy scheme like most coaches from mcvay/shanny tree, so his overall counting stats are a bit lower but Love's been great. He also missed 2 games with injury and left early in 2 other games with injury, and was noticeably hobbled the first half of the season. If you want to say he's like 9th best instead of 5th that's fine but he's in that 5-10 range for sure.

Love is 19th in Y/G, 10th in TD/G, and 31st in Completion%. It's absurd to say he's anywhere near top 5 in the NFL, as QBR does, and realistically he's outside looking in on the top 10.

You think he should be considered Top 5 or Top 10 because of his Yards/Completion, yet you accuse Bears fans of clinging to one statistic to paint Caleb Williams as good? :lol:

Yards per game and TDs per game are explained by my above post. Packers wide receivers lead the NFL in drops, which affects his completion percentage a good bit. I never mentioned yards/completion but since you brought it up, his high ADOT and YPA also affect his completion percentage, he's often hunting for big plays, which I consider a positive. Since I never mentioned yards/completion until you brought it up, your last sentence makes no sense, but I've come to find that is standard for you when talking about football.

So he's Top 5.....IF you consider not his overall production, but his production within the context of the larger offensive scheme put in place by his HC? :lol: Yeah that's rational.

And for the "wHY arE YoU TalKING AbT YaRds pER CoMPleTION?1" theater:
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On a per play basis he has been.


You invoked "per play" stats. Y/C is a per play stat. Spare me your self-righteous indignation. You're a hapless homer on top of being a stupid hack.


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Yeah on a per play basis he's been great. His overall counting stats are lower because they play at a slow pace and run more than most teams. I can't really dumb it down any further for you to understand so that will have to suffice.

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Yeah on a per play basis he's been great. His overall counting stats are lower because they play at a slow pace and run more than most teams. I can't really dumb it down any further for you to understand so that will have to suffice.

"Yeah his production is lower because they have a an actual Top 5 running game but Love is still a Top 5 QB!"

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Edit.

Haha why did you edit out the part where you said he had a distinct "lack of production" but then said he has "empty stats"? Which is it you boob?

Oh but his "production". Caleb ended the season essentially tied for 2nd worst in avg Td passes per game. Am I "denying" his production by acknowledging this?
Hey stupid how do you reconcile your contention that the extremely productive Caleb is 31st in Passing yardage per game of all QBs numbnuts?

Well either he has no production or empty stats. He can't be unproductive of meaningless statistics. You can't even keep your dishonest criticisms straight.


You don't even understand the concept behind "empty" stats. Thus it makes no sense for you to babble on about "empty stats".

And it's counterintuitive for you to incessantly tout the "production" of one of the least productive QBs in the entire NFL. Particularly so given the fact that you never produce anything besides "yeah guys who don't bother to watch Bears games like Brick support me and my stupid bullshit" as the basis for any sports argument. Each and everyone of your inane arguments are easily refuted by simple statistics. Which renders you to be nothing more than a babbling buffoon.

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You don't even understand the concept behind "empty" stats. Thus it makes no sense for you to babble on about "empty stats".
This is where I point out once again that some of these "empty" stats came from games they lost in the last second by coaching errors, or a game that went to OT.

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You don't even understand the concept behind "empty" stats. Thus it makes no sense for you to babble on about "empty stats".
This is where I point out once again that some of these "empty" stats came from games they lost in the last second by coaching errors, or a game that went to OT.


You might not understand the concept either, but there are a lot of "stats" that are accrued in this particular fashion. Ever seen Zach Lavine play? Different Sport but the concept never changes.

Minnesota was up 27-16 with a minute and a half to go in the game. They were "comfortably ahead" by 14 during the 4th. It was clear to any and everyone that they took their foot off the gas because they were up 2 scores. It almost came back to haunt them. At times this sort of things happens in sports. Which is why all of the focus and attention paid to Flus for "blowing it" was misguided.. Minnesota's coach is the guy that almost "blew it" because he went into prevent mode early and almost cost his team the game.

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You might not understand the concept either, but there are a lot of "stats" that are accrued in this particular fashion. Ever seen Zach Lavine play? Different Sport but the concept never changes.
You can't have "empty" stats in a game that ends up close. It's impossible. It's completely wrong to argue otherwise.

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Minnesota was up 27-16 with a minute and a half to go in the game. They were "comfortably ahead" by 14 during the 4th. It was clear to any and everyone that they took their foot off the gas because they were up 2 scores. It almost came back to haunt them. At times this sort of things happens in sports. Which is why all of the focus and attention paid to Flus for "blowing it" was misguided.. Minnesota's coach is the guy that almost "blew it" because he went into prevent mode early and almost cost his team the game.
11 points isn't a blowout.

I'll also point out that it was an 8 point game with 7:22 to go. So, at a minimum that drive to go down 8 wasn't empty stats.

But still, a game that goes to OT does not contain empty stats. It's impossible.

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You don't even understand the concept behind "empty" stats. Thus it makes no sense for you to babble on about "empty stats".
This is where I point out once again that some of these "empty" stats came from games they lost in the last second by coaching errors, or a game that went to OT.


You might not understand the concept either, but there are a lot of "stats" that are accrued in this particular fashion. Ever seen Zach Lavine play? Different Sport but the concept never changes.

Minnesota was up 27-16 with a minute and a half to go in the game. They were "comfortably ahead" by 14 during the 4th. It was clear to any and everyone that they took their foot off the gas because they were up 2 scores. It almost came back to haunt them. At times this sort of things happens in sports. Which is why all of the focus and attention paid to Flus for "blowing it" was misguided.. Minnesota's coach is the guy that almost "blew it" because he went into prevent mode early and almost cost his team the game.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
You don't even understand the concept behind "empty" stats. Thus it makes no sense for you to babble on about "empty stats".
This is where I point out once again that some of these "empty" stats came from games they lost in the last second by coaching errors, or a game that went to OT.


You might not understand the concept either, but there are a lot of "stats" that are accrued in this particular fashion. Ever seen Zach Lavine play? Different Sport but the concept never changes.

Minnesota was up 27-16 with a minute and a half to go in the game. They were "comfortably ahead" by 14 during the 4th. It was clear to any and everyone that they took their foot off the gas because they were up 2 scores. It almost came back to haunt them. At times this sort of things happens in sports. Which is why all of the focus and attention paid to Flus for "blowing it" was misguided.. Minnesota's coach is the guy that almost "blew it" because he went into prevent mode early and almost cost his team the game.

Allllmost got it.


Hey how about you go back to touting the "production" level of one of the least "productive" QBs in the league once again :lol: :lol:

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Brick wrote:
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You might not understand the concept either, but there are a lot of "stats" that are accrued in this particular fashion. Ever seen Zach Lavine play? Different Sport but the concept never changes.
You can't have "empty" stats in a game that ends up close. It's impossible. It's completely wrong to argue otherwise.

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Minnesota was up 27-16 with a minute and a half to go in the game. They were "comfortably ahead" by 14 during the 4th. It was clear to any and everyone that they took their foot off the gas because they were up 2 scores. It almost came back to haunt them. At times this sort of things happens in sports. Which is why all of the focus and attention paid to Flus for "blowing it" was misguided.. Minnesota's coach is the guy that almost "blew it" because he went into prevent mode early and almost cost his team the game.
11 points isn't a blowout.

I'll also point out that it was an 8 point game with 7:22 to go. So, at a minimum that drive to go down 8 wasn't empty stats.

But still, a game that goes to OT does not contain empty stats. It's impossible.


What is or is not a blowout is open for debate. However it doesn't have to be a "blowout" for a team to implement their prevent defense. Prevent defense is all about score relative to the amount of time left in the game. Most teams will go into "prevent mode" in the 4th if the other team needs 2 scores (particularly so if the other team's need 2 Touchdowns) in order to win the game. That's hardly revelatory Brick.

And why can't Caleb ever seem to do any of these "wonderful offensive things" whenever the Game is actually competitive? Have you seen his 1st quarter numbers? 2nd Quarter Numbers? Bears only can ever seem to look like an "NFL Offense" when they are down 2 scores or more in the 4th when the game really is no longer a game.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:29 pm 
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I can't keep banging my head against this wall. A game that goes to OT doesn't contain empty stats. I'm not starting a discussion against an absurd thought like that.

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