I don't know enough about cap situations to say what's going on with New Orleans (though I'm guessing it can't be good), but this is one bad batch of vacancies based on organizational situations alone. The Jets are run by a meddling idiot Big Pharma scion and for some reason apparently his teenage son, and also everyone around you is just continuously screaming at you about everything. Or you can go to the Patriots and suffer in league-worst training facilities while living in the awful Boston exurbs and listening to the owner take credit for the Super Bowls on your mandatory field trip to the Wailing Wall. Dallas, Jerry Jones. And then you have the Bears and this unholy union of McCaskey weirdness and Kevin Warren weirdness. Suddenly the NFL's failed real-estate speculation scheme in Jacksonville doesn't look as bad. Or just wait for Miami, Cincinnati, Tampa, San Francisco, or dare I say Pittsburgh.

_________________

He looks like a landlord who is going to throw out a widow from a slum in the 1920s for not paying rent

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Pat Ryan throwing his weight around.

Ben, what's your leadership plan for working in an organization where everybody you could conceivably report to is an idiot?

Now that I think about it, Ben Johnson's name is a little too close to Brandon Johnson for my liking.

"We know you're good at a tangible football thing, but are you good at abstract bullshit that we don't understand and have never understood?"

_________________

“Not interviewing well” was the Redskins’ cope after he withdrew for thinking they were arrogant cocksuckers.

_________________

When is the Poles/Warren end of year presser?

_________________

Interviewing well or not is a terrible judge of anything. It is super subjective. What the Redskins think of how he interviews should not matter at all.

_________________
"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

"If the Bears go 2-15 but beat the Packers twice was it a successful season?"
Ben Johnson:

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

the packers aren't really our rivals anymore with our winning streak against them. Johnson would help us in the real rivalry against the Lions

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It's going to be Mc Carthy. He's Catholic and does donative work. He's from pittsburgh, which is like mini chicago, and middle class. This is the stuff of love stories for the mcclaskeys.

OK, Green Bay fans, tell us what you think of his overall work. He was lazy at the end of the run in GB but has been ok in dallas. Was he a key to developing Rogers and several backup qb at GB?

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Let’s be honest, everyone at the top of that organization is a moron. If that’s all they’re asking Ben to come in there with it shouldn’t be hard for him to fool them with some coach speak. I’m not too worried about this.


And by the way, as I type this Ben has only agreed to talk to NE and the Bears. Nothing yet about any other team. So that’s interesting too.

_________________
If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Has Dallas let him go yet..? I’m not convinced Jones is out on him until I read they’re out on getting a deal done with him.

_________________
If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

George is a sucker for guys that can BS through interviews, how else can you explain Nagy and Eberflus?

Remember how the "smart fans station" goofs raved about Nagy, George thought he was hiring an offensive genius, but the guy couldn't even run a basic practice competently, the players had no idea what they were supposed to do and he spent more time making up laminated Denny's Menu play cards than he did leading men.

Eberflus sold the goofy HITS BS and George ate it up, he thought he was hiring a defensive genius, but the guy couldn't run a basic practice, guys had no idea what they were supposed to do and he spent more time reading the leadership books that Warren assigned him than reading "Football Clock Management for Dummies". a brutal head coach hire.

Cannot see them hiring a real leader of men type guy as those guys will scare George, and would be too busy leading men to read the books on leadership that Kevin would attempt to assign to them, they also would want Poles launched.

Ben Johnson could work because he will run the ball and wants large angry offensive lineman, a more QB friendly approach, but would again likely want his own GM.

Still think it will be the fourth or fifth guy, a guy that will accept keeping Poles around, and will give Kevin weekly book reports on the assigned books on leadership.

BREAKING: Jaguars Request Interview With Lions' Ben Johnson

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

My guy in Green Bay (actually a gal) who knows him through school functions, etc, says he is a real douche. Which might be a good thing.

_________________
"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

His contract ends Jan 14th so they don't really have to do anything.

I get that for the most part the McCaskeys havent made great hires but you cant hang the Nagy being bad hire on them. Nagy was the next highly regarded potential great coach from the Reid tree and was THE sought after commodity the year the Bears hired him. They got their guy in this case and the rest of the league and media were in agreement that it was a great hire.

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Like I said before, he's as good a candidate as Vrabel with a good argument he's better. If the goal this hiring cycle is to get a top 5 coach in the league, no need to even interview him. If the goal is to stop being one of the worst teams in football and give Caleb a professional offense to run, he's a good hire.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

that sounds a lot like John Fox

_________________
O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Could be. I don't think he's checked out yet. He had Dallas playing hard til the end, went 4-3 down the stretch with Cooper Rush/Trey Lance with wins over two playoff teams. Rush probably shouldn't be in the NFL at all and he got decent play out of him, which I think speaks to his work with QBs which everyone seems to agree is a strength. Which doesn't sound a lot like John Fox.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

They could do so much worse than Mike McCarthy that you can’t really be upset about hiring him. Especially if Ben Johnson gets one good whiff of McCaskeyland and decides it’s not for him no matter what the Bears are willing to pay.

But he’s simply not going to be able to take a Ryan Poles roster of mediocre talented dogshit against this gauntlet division and get above third place (and even third would be a minor miracle). Maybe if you gave him the 2013 Seahawks he could compete, but man he was basically 1.5 elite players to work with. DJ Moore and Kyler Gordon, everyone else is pretty ho-hum.

But nothing really seems to get to him. He’s an ideal punching bag, but he’s nonchalant and stoic that the chorus of discontent after an inevitable five win season in 2025 might just float directly up to the team president and owner. The team won’t be quitting at least.

An average Denny's Manager would have seen through Nagy's BS, but his circumstance is what makes me concerned about Ben Johnson, an apparently successful OC who works under a good HC and has the offensive infrastructure in place, can he fill the HC role or has he self-actualized as an OC.

They say a team takes on the personality of its coach and you have certainly seen that under Captain Grab Ass Nagy, and the rather odd Matt Eberflus.

I'd rather take the chance that Flores is better than he showed in Miami over McCarthy who gets hired and then people spend the whole time questioning if he actually sucks or not even as his team is capable enough.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

_________________

I think you might have this wrong, 1 win in last 12 games doesn’t make the Bear worthy of being a Packer rival.

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins

Nagy was Reid's personal assistant, it's the only reason he's in the NFL. You do remember Nagy's final game at KC when they couldn't score a point in the 2nd half and they lost at home to Marcus Mariota right? It was only the sixth game that he had even called plays in his NFL career. Reid was talking him up because that's what HCs do for their guys. Nagy had zero resume worthy of being an NFL HC outside of Andy Reid, zero. We don't need to rewrite the history of who Matt Nagy is: Andy Reid's butler.

_________________

That was the laziest troll in board history and someone still bit on it. Nice work dolphin.