You keep singling out one game as if that constitutes the totality of it. It's more than just the Minnesota game Brick. Same occurred during a few other games as well.
He has thrown 5 Tds when the Bears are down 3 scores or more. How is that not an example of him providing "empty stats"?

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I remain perfectly happy with Love as the long term qb of the packers.

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I dunno man. He's an adjustment or 2 away from being great. I'm all over the Eagles but Love is a WC. Like Baker, if he gets a hot hand, he's big trouble.

Some people might call throwing touchdowns when down to bring the game into reach "clutch".

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Whoa, easy there Sparky.

https://youtu.be/BSM2audQcJ4?t=860

He's, essentially, the same qb he was in his last year of college, so it would be foolish to bank on his progression in year 6

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5th highest QBR this year.

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I think there is a discussion about qbr somewhere on the board that I don't enter

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I'm with you GD. We've seen greatness in Green Bay and he aint it.

Nice QB for sure, but not a world beater. Prime K.Cousins level good.

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Teams with a lot worse than Jordan Love have had pretty successful seasons. He’s certainly good enough to keep the Bears in the basement until 2030.

We can discuss that. A small amount of his overall touchdowns were "empty stats" though most quarterbacks probably have some of those too.

But the fact that you are unrelenting in calling a game that went to OT as "empty stats" means your argument is so wrong that there is nothing that can even start a real discussion. It's like if I was arguing that Caleb Williams was the MVP of the league this year and then forcing you to prove he wasn't and then when you make an undeniably correct argument that he wasn't the MVP I still just push forward with the same indefensible argument.

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25% of his Tds were thrown when the Bears were down 3 scores or more.

60% were thrown when The Bears were down 2 scores or more.

0 were thrown when the Bears were down 7 points or less. 0 were thrown when the game was tied.

Empty Stats

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As I said, that includes a game that went to OT. If you can't acknowledge that the OT game was not empty stats it just isn't a discussion that can be meaningful. I think that's your goal though.

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Notice how Brick keeps ducking the fact that a Quarter of his TDs were thrown when the Bears were down 3 scores or more? Tough to "Brick it up" with your bullshit when it comes to that one huh?

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More evidence of "Generational Caleb's" bumslaying tendencies.
2024 1st Quarter First Downs for the Bears Offense :25
2024 4th Quarter First Downs for the Bears Offense: 59

But hey just don't ever suggest that he is producing "Empty Stats"

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This is how dishonest you are: One of the "down 3 or more" TDs came in the Detroit game that was ultimately lost by Matt Eberflus, and the rest came in games where the defense was getting their collective brains beaten in and giving up 30+ points.

If there is such a thing as "garbage time" in the NFL, and I still contend it is a much narrower definition that you give, the Bears defense caused it for the bulk of what you label as Caleb's "meaningless" touchdowns. And the fact that the defense can cause TDs to be meaningless just highlights how absurd it is to discount TDs because of time and score.

Brick's Favorite stooge is back to ducking once again.
Remember he doesn't like it when it is pointed out that one of the least "productive" QBs is well, one of the least productive QBs in the league. Ok

You'd never know that the Bears lost 10 in a row given all of the "productivity" that Caleb happened to have provided.

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Ah the internet trolls around here are so VERY proud to hear you say this stupid shit. Peep.Show Darko is probably yelling "You Go Dawg" even as you're proceeding to continuously spew this stupid shit. What "sport" you play again?

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As usual you can't argue with the post, so just argue about the poster. Again if there is such a thing as "garbage time", the fact that the defense has influence on whether any given TD scored by the offense is "meaningless" means the whole exercise of deciding which TDs to count and which others to discredit is just patently stupid. Then again, you yourself are patented stupid.

I'm guessing most of those came from the 5 out of 20 touchdowns that I do agree were "empty stats".

But this isn't a meaningful discussion so there isn't any reason for me to acknowledge anything about your completely irrational take.

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When teams are up 2 scores or more in the 4th they tend to relax their defenses in order to run clock and prevent big plays. This is hardly a "revolutionary concept" jackass. Which is the main reason that the Bears attained 59 1st Downs in 4th Quarter but only 25 in the First Quarter.

It's also why they averaged a league worst 1 point during the first quarter yet majestically about 8 points during the 4th.

This may appear rather foreign to someone as stupid as you but this sort of thing has existed in sports since the beginning of time.

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This tells me the scripted plays (when they finally started) organized by the (truly) offensive coordinators were really bad.

Except in the cases of Minnesota and Detroit, where one was saved by OT and the other by coaching ineptitude. Those "prevent" defenses did a great job preventing Caleb from giving his team a chance to win.

The fact that you refuse to engage on how a team's defense can put it's offense in your ever-shifting definition of "garbage time" tells me all I need to know about how honest you are being here, Radio.

Caleb can only be productive when the defense is playing "soft zone" coverage. That much has been apparent since the preseason.

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The strange thing is that Swift ran for 3.03 yards per carry in the first half. 4.68 yards per carry in the second half. It's by far the worst average in the league for someone that got at least 100 carries in the first half. Only one guy got more than 40 carries in the first half and had a worse yards per carry and that was Nick Chubb with 60 carries and a 2.85 yards per carry average.

Williams was also bad in the first half but it's hard to put the blame on him for that large of a difference in rushing.

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The Bears Average more points during the 4th Quarter than they do for the 1st half this season. Definitely Garbage Time Stats

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But the whole offense was terrible in the first quarter. Can blame him for some things, obviously, but not all of the things that consistently went wrong in the first quarter.

I often wondered during games if the Bears even got through the "scripted plays" before halftime.

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