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I'm gonna say this is the best team in the country right now. I wish the Tournament were starting today.

Top 5 for sure. Underwood should be coach of the year but I think they'll punish him for how he did it even though it was perfectly legal.

whats this mean? I dont follow college til the tournament obviously

He in effect cut every player on his team but one from last year who barely played but has good potential he is starting to show now. He then spent massive amounts on transfers and hit a few massive home runs including a future top 5 NBA pick.

How will they "punish" him for this since as you said it is legal?

By not voting for him as coach of the year even though he should be coach of the year.

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I'm gonna say this is the best team in the country right now. I wish the Tournament were starting today.

Top 5 for sure. Underwood should be coach of the year but I think they'll punish him for how he did it even though it was perfectly legal.

whats this mean? I dont follow college til the tournament obviously

He in effect cut every player on his team but one from last year who barely played but has good potential he is starting to show now. He then spent massive amounts on transfers and hit a few massive home runs including a future top 5 NBA pick.

sounds like coach of the year work

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I'm not really understanding that comment but I agree he should be coach of the year.

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Pretty impressive performance considering their best player was pulled from the lineup before the game. USC at home should be a win and then they travel to Indiana who is another team with a nice record but no really big wins yet. Next game after that is @ Sparty which should be interesting.

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Found this to be a pretty interesting article on Ty Rodgers...

When the last-second news broke that Illinois junior swingman Ty Rodgers would redshirt the 2024-25 season, speculation immediately turned to 1) why and 2) whether the team's most experienced returner would actually return to Champaign at all.

Rodgers' was supposedly an odd man out. The Illini were starting over. His game was a poor fit for coach Brad Underwood's new offensive style. He would surely sour on riding the bench and watching a collection of youngsters and transfers fill what should have been his minutes.

And with college basketball's transfer portal doors flung wide open and the draw of NIL money and greener-grass opportunities on other campuses now tugging on players across the country, Rodgers was thought by many to be a goner after this season.

But perhaps not.

During Illinois' 91-52 shellacking of Penn State at the State Farm Center on Wednesday, Big Ten Network sideline reporter Andy Katz shared details he had reported of Rodgers' situation on the game broadcast:

"Rodgers decided on his own to redshirt," Katz said midway through the first half. "Why? Because he really wanted to work on his game to adapt to this new position of playing the point. They don't expect [Kasparas Jakucionis] to be back next season. Obviously, he's a likely [NBA Draft] lottery pick.

"So if [Rodgers is] going to try to be much more of a true point guard, he wanted to work on that craft. You don't see that in today's era – someone voluntarily saying, 'You know what, I would rather stay, redshirt and work on my game to be a better player next year."

Rodgers has already been working with Illinois strength and conditioning coach Adam Fletcher to get leaner and emphasize quickness, according to Underwood. If, with his experience and skill set, Rodgers is able to return next season also as a more polished facilitator and distributor, his experience and defense alone at the point guard position would make him a huge "addition" – particularly if Jakucionis leaves as expected.

What has stood out as much as anything has been Rodgers' continued contributions and demeanor in the meantime. He heads the scout team in practices and serves as an unofficial player/coach. He is routinely engaged during games, at work with younger players, smiling and actively rooting on teammates from the bench. He admirably represents the program and university in the community.

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Rodgers was a favorite of mine last year for his relentless rebounding style, but as the team is currently constituted there is no room on the floor right now for a 6'6" guy who can't shoot. Morez is really the only guy on the team who doesn't pop 3's, but if he can continue to vacuum up offensive boards and wreck the rim cleaning up like last night, the other 4 guys on the floor can continue to bomb away. I really hope Ty is back next year and that he really has improved his game, it would be great to see him back.


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You knew this game was coming the moment JORR said they were best team in the country.

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#3 for the Ilini has a slight resemblance to Danny Parkins

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Didn’t get to watch but that looks like a bad loss at home. Definitely going to get these when you go ice cold from the field. Hoping that Jakucionis isn’t out much longer.

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You knew this game was coming the moment JORR said they were best team in the country.



I didn't think they were going to go undefeated the rest of the way. But this was a really bad loss at home.

The problem with this team is too much talent. And it's not a "good problem." It's difficult to put together a reasonable rotation. I don't think it's great to have 8-9 different guys who might lead the team in scoring on a given day. Underwood is going to have to figure it out.

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Found this to be a pretty interesting article on Ty Rodgers...

When the last-second news broke that Illinois junior swingman Ty Rodgers would redshirt the 2024-25 season, speculation immediately turned to 1) why and 2) whether the team's most experienced returner would actually return to Champaign at all.

Rodgers' was supposedly an odd man out. The Illini were starting over. His game was a poor fit for coach Brad Underwood's new offensive style. He would surely sour on riding the bench and watching a collection of youngsters and transfers fill what should have been his minutes.

And with college basketball's transfer portal doors flung wide open and the draw of NIL money and greener-grass opportunities on other campuses now tugging on players across the country, Rodgers was thought by many to be a goner after this season.

But perhaps not.

During Illinois' 91-52 shellacking of Penn State at the State Farm Center on Wednesday, Big Ten Network sideline reporter Andy Katz shared details he had reported of Rodgers' situation on the game broadcast:

"Rodgers decided on his own to redshirt," Katz said midway through the first half. "Why? Because he really wanted to work on his game to adapt to this new position of playing the point. They don't expect [Kasparas Jakucionis] to be back next season. Obviously, he's a likely [NBA Draft] lottery pick.

"So if [Rodgers is] going to try to be much more of a true point guard, he wanted to work on that craft. You don't see that in today's era – someone voluntarily saying, 'You know what, I would rather stay, redshirt and work on my game to be a better player next year."

Rodgers has already been working with Illinois strength and conditioning coach Adam Fletcher to get leaner and emphasize quickness, according to Underwood. If, with his experience and skill set, Rodgers is able to return next season also as a more polished facilitator and distributor, his experience and defense alone at the point guard position would make him a huge "addition" – particularly if Jakucionis leaves as expected.

What has stood out as much as anything has been Rodgers' continued contributions and demeanor in the meantime. He heads the scout team in practices and serves as an unofficial player/coach. He is routinely engaged during games, at work with younger players, smiling and actively rooting on teammates from the bench. He admirably represents the program and university in the community.


I never understood why Underwood didn't try and make him a Point Forward from the very beginning. I saw him in high school and it was clear that if he was going to be a good college player, it was going to be as a point forward type. Though he had shooting limitations I always felt that his game could translate if the made him a point. He was a natural if he didn't turn it over. He was very unselfish as a High School player. Which you don't see much in high school these days. He was a jack of all trades who was dominating games even without scoring.
I hope it works out for him.

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That was a really ugly loss, but I have to hand it to USC - they were absolutely smothering Illinois on the perimeter and not giving them many open looks. One thing I find worrying about Brad Underwood is his steadfast refusal to make in-game adjustments to take what the defense is giving him. He has a vision of what he wants the team to do offensively, and if the other team has a good game plan he will not budge no matter what. This should have been an Ivisic and Johnson game down low, but Illinois steadfastly refused to change from the bombs away offense and kept firing up contested 3's. I found this game very frustrating to watch.


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That was a really ugly loss, but I have to hand it to USC - they were absolutely smothering Illinois on the perimeter and not giving them many open looks. One thing I find worrying about Brad Underwood is his steadfast refusal to make in-game adjustments to take what the defense is giving him. He has a vision of what he wants the team to do offensively, and if the other team has a good game plan he will not budge no matter what. This should have been an Ivisic and Johnson game down low, but Illinois steadfastly refused to change from the bombs away offense and kept firing up contested 3's. I found this game very frustrating to watch.


I agree 100%. He either isn't good at changing a game plan on the fly or is just so hard-headed that he refuses to do it. We can go back to that Tournament game against Loyola where that fat guy who looked like a cat destroyed the Illini and Underwood refused to adjust.

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We all saw it against Uconn as well, and he even verbalized it during an in-game interview when asked what adjustments he was going to make and he said (paraphrasing) "none, we do what we do no matter what and we aren't changing now". So Hansberry and Dainja sat on the bench while Hawkins got abused over and over and over trying to guard Clingan with no help. Again, I like Underwood, he has really got something good going in Champaign, but his stubbornness to make changes or adapt in-game when things aren't going well really is frustrating.


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Thanks for going back to your name JORR. Rod never looked right.

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We all saw it against Uconn as well, and he even verbalized it during an in-game interview when asked what adjustments he was going to make and he said (paraphrasing) "none, we do what we do no matter what and we aren't changing now". So Hansberry and Dainja sat on the bench while Hawkins got abused over and over and over trying to guard Clingan with no help. Again, I like Underwood, he has really got something good going in Champaign, but his stubbornness to make changes or adapt in-game when things aren't going well really is frustrating.


UConn was another bad one, but I honestly didn't think they ever had a chance to win that game. Even after they played pretty well to get it close at the half.

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Thanks for going back to your name JORR. Rod never looked right.


Agreed

He's listed in my contacts that way.

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Big game tonight and the Illini need a bounce back effort against what appears to be a relatively tough Indiana squad. Indiana also coming off a bad loss over the weekend losing 85-60 to Iowa. Still no news on Jakucionis and whether he will return tonight. My guess is we may not see him tonight but the Illini will definitely need him by Sunday when they travel to #12 Michigan State.

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Indiana and Illinois both looked like dogshit this weekend. I really hope KJ is back tonight.


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Indiana is awful. Fire Woodson chants going throughout the building.

Maybe the only time in my life I am happy to see Illinois winning this game.

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Did IU let Ryan Walters coach this game?

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Did IU let Ryan Walters coach this game?

I think they would be better off.

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Holy shit I just saw the halftime score. 60-32, ouch

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Convinced yet, RFDC?

Of what? They are a good team, maybe the best team in the Big 10. But not the best team in the country.

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Of what? They are a good team, maybe the best team in the Big 10. But not the best team in the country.



Who do you think is better right now?

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That beatdown of IU was glorious. I hope they extend Woodson. In fact, I'll donate to their NIL fund if they do it :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Convinced yet, RFDC?

Of what? They are a good team, maybe the best team in the Big 10. But not the best team in the country.



Who do you think is better right now?

Tenn
Bama
Houston
Auburn
Duke
UConn
Florida

I do not think the Big 10 is that great this season.

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Convinced yet, RFDC?

Of what? They are a good team, maybe the best team in the Big 10. But not the best team in the country.



Who do you think is better right now?

Tenn
Bama
Houston
Auburn
Duke
UConn
Florida

I do not think the Big 10 is that great this season.
Kansas, Iowa State and MSU as well.

I’m an Illini fan, but JORR has lost his mind. They just lost at home to a very average USC team for God’s sake.

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Convinced yet, RFDC?

Of what? They are a good team, maybe the best team in the Big 10. But not the best team in the country.



Who do you think is better right now?

Tenn
Bama
Houston
Auburn
Duke
UConn
Florida

I do not think the Big 10 is that great this season.
Kansas, Iowa State and MSU as well.

I’m an Illini fan, but JORR has lost his mind. They just lost at home to a very average USC team for God’s sake.

And then won by 25 in the road.

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