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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:56 pm 
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Now do the year before where both Michigan and OSU made the CFP. Now do 13-0 FSU last year and how many of those games were meaningful.

You can cherry pick all the games you want but I can easily prove that there were more national championship relevant games this year than ever. Just look at Alabama, Ole Miss, IU, and SMU and their November games. All of them mattered.


Let’s have a 75 team playoff, we will have thousands more “relevant” regular season games…


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Now do the year before where both Michigan and OSU made the CFP. Now do 13-0 FSU last year and how many of those games were meaningful.

You can cherry pick all the games you want but I can easily prove that there were more national championship relevant games this year than ever. Just look at Alabama, Ole Miss, IU, and SMU and their November games. All of them mattered.


We have been over this before. The CFB playoff committee overlooked more or less 100 years of tradition to exclude FSU from last year’s playoffs.

If your argument is that we should devalue the regular season because those in power have chosen to devalue it, then yeah I agree with you.

It’s just this simple. When you use the regular season as the gateway to the postseason and you allow more teams into the regular season, you might create more smaller value games, but you essentially do away with all of the black hole level gravity games. It’s just a fact. It’s not a good thing or a bad thing, just a thing.

You like a less valuable regular season and a more inclusive postseason. That’s great. But what you can’t argue is that with a more inclusive postseason you retain the value of the regular season. If you think that’s the case, I’ve got two words for you. Farleigh Dickenson.

How can you claim that there is much value in the regular season of a sport if the 250th best team has a better shot to win the national title than the 1st best team?


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Indiana ended up as the closest game of the 4. What a surprise that 12 teams is too many.


I did some high level computations and found that Indiana lost to ND by 10 while UGA lost to ND by 13. Despite winning the SEC, it’s pretty clear UGA was less deserving of a playoff berth than IU.


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Indiana ended up as the closest game of the 4. What a surprise that 12 teams is too many.


I did some high level computations and found that Indiana lost to ND by 10 while UGA lost to ND by 13. Despite winning the SEC, it’s pretty clear UGA was less deserving of a playoff berth than IU.

You were right and Herb Kirkstreit and many others were wrong.

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We have been over this before. The CFB playoff committee overlooked more or less 100 years of tradition to exclude FSU from last year’s playoffs.
That's the problem with your anecdotes though. You keep on picking the times where the OSU-Michigan game led to a national title but ignoring all the times it didn't matter. The same is true of FSU playing 0 meaningful games this year in hindsight.

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It’s just this simple. When you use the regular season as the gateway to the postseason and you allow more teams into the regular season, you might create more smaller value games, but you essentially do away with all of the black hole level gravity games. It’s just a fact. It’s not a good thing or a bad thing, just a thing.
"When you use the regular season as the gateway to the postseason". What type of sentence is this? It's absurd. Every sport at every level determines a championship through the use of the regular season qualifying some group of teams to make the playoffs where every team either beats every team that beat every other team in the group. Now, if you want to go back to the days where voters picked a national title after all the teams played in different bowl games then I can understand that. Right now, you are just created this straw man that no other league is held to where the regular season doesn't matter if you can lose a regular season game and still win the title.

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You like a less valuable regular season and a more inclusive postseason. That’s great. But what you can’t argue is that with a more inclusive postseason you retain the value of the regular season. If you think that’s the case, I’ve got two words for you. Farleigh Dickenson.

How can you claim that there is much value in the regular season of a sport if the 250th best team has a better shot to win the national title than the 1st best team?
That's an interesting point. FDU, while not winning the national title, had the most significant and important game in the history of the school. They had many games prior to that were very important in making the NCAA tournament. Had the playoffs been a smaller pool of teams they would have had no access to the playoffs at all. So, it's a great example of how an expanded playoffs can actually increase the total amount of important games.

As I pointed out with SMU, Indiana, Ole Miss, and Alabama, they basically spent the month of November fighting hard to make the playoffs. Every game was vitally important to them. So yes, Oregon had a buffer where they could drop a game and still make it.

Now, bring it down to the 4 team playoff. There would have been 6 teams in November fighting for those spots and all of those teams would have been in the SEC, Big Ten, and Notre Dame.

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Indiana ended up as the closest game of the 4. What a surprise that 12 teams is too many.


I did some high level computations and found that Indiana lost to ND by 10 while UGA lost to ND by 13. Despite winning the SEC, it’s pretty clear UGA was less deserving of a playoff berth than IU.

You were right and Herb Kirkstreit and many others were wrong.

ND/Penn St...who do you like?


I'm a 4 playoff teams is too many guy, I had no feelings about Indiana deserving to be in other than fuck Alabama. If one of the reasons the committee used in justifying keeping FSU out last year was their QB being hurt, keep Georgia out too. Yes they won the SEC, no I don't care.

I think PSU and ND will play similarly to the Ohio State - Penn State game with ND winning. Not confident in it by any means, concerned ND will turn into the team that lost to NIU at any moment.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
KDdidit wrote:
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The sports talk is so weak in its college football coverage. This game tonight is a huge story nationally and it gets a mention only after bears coaching hires and a bad night by the bulls. There is an appetite in this market for coverage and I don't think the stations even try

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The sports talk is so weak in its college football coverage. This game tonight is a huge story nationally and it gets a mention only after bears coaching hires and a bad night by the bulls. There is an appetite in this market for coverage and I don't think the stations even try


Normally, but Bears trumps all you know that. I just listened to an unnecessary Bulls BS segment. Could have placed the topic in there.

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The sports talk is so weak in its college football coverage. This game tonight is a huge story nationally and it gets a mention only after bears coaching hires and a bad night by the bulls. There is an appetite in this market for coverage and I don't think the stations even try


The Bears coverage is totally out of control. I think that if they tried talking about something else, they would find that people would listen to it.


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ND should load up on Warren. I’m not convinced Allar can throw a completion on a contested ball to anybody but him.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
ND should load up on Warren. I’m not convinced Allar can throw a completion on a contested ball to anybody but him.


One more person than Leonard can throw to


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ND should load up on Warren. I’m not convinced Allar can throw a completion on a contested ball to anybody but him.


One more person than Leonard can throw to

Completely fair

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ND should load up on Warren. I’m not convinced Allar can throw a completion on a contested ball to anybody but him.

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ND finally playing a good Big Ten team.

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ND finally playing a good Big Ten team.


Hidden shot at RFDC.

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Injuries piling up. Maybe four playoff games not a great idea.

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All my teams rely on special teams, defense and hoping the offense doesn’t fuck up.

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ND finally playing a good Big Ten team.


Hidden shot at RFDC.

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ND finally playing a good Big Ten team.


Hidden shot at RFDC.

Brick and I are on the same page right now. Leave us be!

The great state of Indiana used to support one another.

Real sad.

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All my teams rely on special teams, defense and hoping the offense doesn’t fuck up.


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It is so fucking transparent when they want to force the ball to Warren it’s driving me crazy that ND allows it to happen.

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I think the young backup QB loosened the boys up.


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Reconsidering Carter as a Bears pick.

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ND softened up 44 into a concussion


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ND softened up 44 into a concussion

Penn State cares about the wellbeing of young men.

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