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The point is that you are crossing out pretty much anything good that Caleb did as a rookie through various convoluted methods yet you can't wrap your head around me thinking that rookie year QB stats don't really matter that much..

Make the case of all of the good things that he has done this season and I will make the case of all of the bad that he has done and see where we end up. Deal?

I've done that plenty of times and it always leads to you not counting stats in a game that went to OT because the stats were empty.

We are on to year 2. I'll let you see how they draft and you are free to set over/unders on Williams play next year.

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I'm not doing the "Where'd you play your ball?" sports resume thing with you, Radio.

Because you can't stupid. What you "know" about Sports was taught to you courtesy of Dan Bernstein with your clown ass.

No, I won't because it is stupid and meaningless. To wit: you don't even claim to have played football at any meaningfully competitive level. You just claim to have played basketball to some degree and that gives you carte blanche to spew idiocy about numerous sports.

But let's face reality: Caleb Williams was a much more accomplished passer as a rookie than your crush in his 3rd year in the league, and that hurts your ego.


Just because you play Madden doesn't mean that you know what the hell you are talking about clown. And no amount of "Right Winged incestuousness" here will change that

Your knowledge of sports is so rudimentary that you don't even know how to evaluate stats . You're just that stupid.

Well, since you like to talk about it so much, what are your football accolades, Radio, besides getting the water?

And I'm confident that my abilities in statistical analysis far exceed yours.


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And I'm confident that my abilities in statistical analysis far exceed yours.


Your "statistical analysis" provided the world with such nuggets as averaged yards per game being more important than average points per game. Damn idiot.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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And I'm confident that my abilities in statistical analysis far exceed yours.


Your "statistical analysis" provided the world with such nuggets as averaged yards per game being more important than average points per game. Damn idiot.

I don't think I said "more important" but to ignore how the yards given up by a team defense impact the game clock and thus how the rest of the game is played, by both teams, seems like a pretty simplistic viewpoint of football.

LOL and NOW you're sidestepping the question on football bona fides.


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Brick wrote:
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The point is that you are crossing out pretty much anything good that Caleb did as a rookie through various convoluted methods yet you can't wrap your head around me thinking that rookie year QB stats don't really matter that much..

Make the case of all of the good things that he has done this season and I will make the case of all of the bad that he has done and see where we end up. Deal?

I've done that plenty of times and it always leads to you not counting stats in a game that went to OT because the stats were empty.

We are on to year 2. I'll let you see how they draft and you are free to set over/unders on Williams play next year.


You're filibustering again McCarver. It's a simple request. Provide a list of things that he has done in his first year which are "good" . And I will provide a list of things which are "bad". And we can see where we end up. Deal?

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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And I'm confident that my abilities in statistical analysis far exceed yours.


Your "statistical analysis" provided the world with such nuggets as averaged yards per game being more important than average points per game. Damn idiot.

I don't think I said "more important" but to ignore how the yards given up by a team defense impact the game clock and thus how the rest of the game is played, by both teams, seems like a pretty simplistic viewpoint of football.

LOL and NOW you're sidestepping the question on football bona fides.

"Points don't matter" "Only Yards Matter". Said no one that has ever watched or played football. Damn clown

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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And I'm confident that my abilities in statistical analysis far exceed yours.


Your "statistical analysis" provided the world with such nuggets as averaged yards per game being more important than average points per game. Damn idiot.

I don't think I said "more important" but to ignore how the yards given up by a team defense impact the game clock and thus how the rest of the game is played, by both teams, seems like a pretty simplistic viewpoint of football.

LOL and NOW you're sidestepping the question on football bona fides.

"Points don't matter" "Only Yards Matter". Said no one that has ever watched or played football. Damn clown

I didn't say either of those things.

Again, what are your football qualifications, since you keep questioning mine?


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By the way. What idiot would ever make the argument that losing the "yardage" and "time of possession" battle loses you the game?

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I don't think I said "more important" but to ignore how the yards given up by a team defense impact the game clock and thus how the rest of the game is played, by both teams, seems like a pretty simplistic viewpoint of football

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Check this clown out as he partakes in his latest rendition of "stupid and meaningless enough for me, but not for Thee". Damn idiot.
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No, I won't because it is stupid and meaningless.

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Again, what are your football qualifications, since you keep questioning mine?

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The point is that you are crossing out pretty much anything good that Caleb did as a rookie through various convoluted methods yet you can't wrap your head around me thinking that rookie year QB stats don't really matter that much..

Make the case of all of the good things that he has done this season and I will make the case of all of the bad that he has done and see where we end up. Deal?

I've done that plenty of times and it always leads to you not counting stats in a game that went to OT because the stats were empty.

We are on to year 2. I'll let you see how they draft and you are free to set over/unders on Williams play next year.


You're filibustering again McCarver. It's a simple request. Provide a list of things that he has done in his first year which are "good" . And I will provide a list of things which are "bad". And we can see where we end up. Deal?

It's a waste of time. You'll just call them all empty stats, even a game that went to OT.

It would be more useful for you to provide a list of things that Williams has done well in his first year.

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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The point is that you are crossing out pretty much anything good that Caleb did as a rookie through various convoluted methods yet you can't wrap your head around me thinking that rookie year QB stats don't really matter that much..

Make the case of all of the good things that he has done this season and I will make the case of all of the bad that he has done and see where we end up. Deal?

I've done that plenty of times and it always leads to you not counting stats in a game that went to OT because the stats were empty.

We are on to year 2. I'll let you see how they draft and you are free to set over/unders on Williams play next year.


You're filibustering again McCarver. It's a simple request. Provide a list of things that he has done in his first year which are "good" . And I will provide a list of things which are "bad". And we can see where we end up. Deal?

It's a waste of time. You'll just call them all empty stats, even a game that went to OT.

It would be more useful for you to provide a list of things that Williams has done well in his first year.


Ah once again McCarver is filbustering. Til next time have fun trolling McCarver.

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By the way. What idiot would ever make the argument that losing the "yardage" and "time of possession" battle loses you the game?

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I don't think I said "more important" but to ignore how the yards given up by a team defense impact the game clock and thus how the rest of the game is played, by both teams, seems like a pretty simplistic viewpoint of football

Does losing those things help you win the game?


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Check this clown out as he partakes in his latest rendition of "stupid and meaningless enough for me, but not for Thee". Damn idiot.
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No, I won't because it is stupid and meaningless.

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Again, what are your football qualifications, since you keep questioning mine?

I was just asking because you seem to bring it up a lot, no matter how many times I tell you it's stupid. It appears to mean a lot to you that the people who talk about a sport have played that sport at some unnamed level of competition. How far did you go in football, or was it just basketball?


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Check this clown out as he partakes in his latest rendition of "stupid and meaningless enough for me, but not for Thee". Damn idiot.
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No, I won't because it is stupid and meaningless.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
How far did you go in football, or was it just basketball?


I get it Golf Shoes. I know that you aren't interested in "exposing" your status as the Team Mascot for The Effingham War Hawks. So I will just leave this alone for now.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Check this clown out as he partakes in his latest rendition of "stupid and meaningless enough for me, but not for Thee". Damn idiot.
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No, I won't because it is stupid and meaningless.

Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
How far did you go in football, or was it just basketball?


I get it Golf Shoes. I know that you aren't interested in "exposing" your status as the Team Mascot for The Effingham War Hawks. So I will just leave this alone for now.

Whatever, Radio. Can you now address how Caleb Williams was a much more accomplished passer as a 23-year old rookie than your crush was in his age-24 season?


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Whatever, Radio. Can you now address how Caleb Williams was a much more accomplished passer as a 23-year old rookie than your crush was in his age-24 season?


Hey Hartgrove. It's clear from stats whom the better player happened to be.
In 13 games last season Fields "produced" the same amount of Tds as Caleb produced in 17 games.

In 2022 he "Produced" 25 Tds in 15 games as Caleb Produced 20 in 17 games.

Fields Avg yard per completion was much greater as well.

He also had a higher TD% than the "Generational One"

Caleb's stats were the product of passing 33 tmes per game
and over 550 times season..

However very little happened to get accomplished..Hence the phrase" empty stats"

He was one of the league leaders in attempts per game while conversely being among bottom of league passers in avg yards per game. This and yet you look at his overall passing yards as an "accomplishment".

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Whatever, Radio. Can you now address how Caleb Williams was a much more accomplished passer as a 23-year old rookie than your crush was in his age-24 season?


Hey Hartgrove. It's clear from stats whom the better player happened to be.
In 13 games last season Fields "produced" the same amount of Tds as Caleb produced in 17 games.

In 2022 he "Produced" 25 Tds in 15 games as Caleb Produced 20 in 17 games.

Fields Avg yard per completion was much greater as well.

He also had a higher TD% than the "Generational One"

Caleb's stats were the product of passing 33 tmes per game
and over 550 times season..

However very little happened to get accomplished..Hence the phrase" empty stats"

He was one of the league leaders in attempts per game while conversely being among bottom of league passers in avg yards per game. This and yet you look at his overall passing yards as an "accomplishment".

:lol: So your argument that your beau was a better passer because while Caleb threw for more yards, and more yards per game, the yards per completion number was slightly higher, ergo if Hypothetical LTG's Crush threw more times he would have had more yards? And the same goes for TD%: Yes Caleb threw for more TDs, but your splooge rag threw fewer passes to get his TDs, therefore if he hypothetically threw more passes he would have had higher production.

What a compelling case, Radio, that totally undoes Caleb throwing for more yards, more yards/game, more TDs and far fewer INTs than Justin ever did.


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:lol: So your argument that your beau was a better passer because while Caleb threw for more yards, and more yards per game, the yards per completion number was slightly higher, ergo if Hypothetical LTG's Crush threw more times he would have had more yards? And the same goes for TD%: Yes Caleb threw for more TDs, but your splooge rag threw fewer passes to get his TDs, therefore if he hypothetically threw more passes he would have had higher production.

What a compelling case, Radio, that totally undoes Caleb throwing for more yards, more yards/game, more TDs and far fewer INTs than Justin ever did.



What an actual "crush" looks like. JLN To Caleb:Caleb can you please regale me with your "repeatable arm talent". :lol: :lol:

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Justin never showed the repeatable arm talent that Caleb has displayed outside of throwing pretty hard. Caleb has the arm strength, the touch has shown up enough to know it's not just a fluke, and it's all-world, and he can effortlessly change arm angles and throw off-platform with velocity and accuracy. A lot of those things Fields just straight up doesn't have, and it's why he was benched for moonball-throwing Broncos Country.


You'd never know that this creep was describing one of the worst QBs in the NFL this season would ya? Just Asking A?Question

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By the way. The Effingham War Hawks mascot is back to prioritizing yardage over point production again
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What a compelling case, Radio, that totally undoes Caleb throwing for more yards, more yards/game, more TDs and far fewer INTs than Justin ever did.


Do you think this idiot realizes that the Bears offense produced 3 fewer points per game this season than it did last season? Just A Question

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By the way. The Effingham War Hawks mascot is back to prioritizing yardage over point production again
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What a compelling case, Radio, that totally undoes Caleb throwing for more yards, more yards/game, more TDs and far fewer INTs than Justin ever did.


Do you think this idiot realizes that the Bears offense produced 3 fewer points per game this season than it did last season? Just A Question

YOU said Justin's Yards/Completion were part of what made him a better passer. YOU said that!


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
By the way. The Effingham War Hawks mascot is back to prioritizing yardage over point production again
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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What a compelling case, Radio, that totally undoes Caleb throwing for more yards, more yards/game, more TDs and far fewer INTs than Justin ever did.


Do you think this idiot realizes that the Bears offense produced 3 fewer points per game this season than it did last season? Just A Question

YOU said Justin's Yards/Completion were part of what made him a better passer. YOU said that!


Hey stupid. His Yards per completion were higher. His Air Yards also higher. His on target% much higher. His TD% much higher. His completion % on passes of more than 10 yards. Much higher. His bad throw % much lower

Caleb's " yardage production" is the product of his being allowed to pass 33 times per game. And even with his being allowed to throw so often he still "produced" one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His Yards per completion were higher.
Who threw for more yards, though, 2024 Caleb or 2023, 24-year old Justin? Why does yards/completion matter more than total yards?


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His Air Yards also higher.
That's basically just stating Yards/Completion but in a different way, and is really dependent on scheme and blocking.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His on target% much higher.
2024 Caleb had a higher completion%.

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His TD% much higher.
Who threw for more TDs?

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His completion % on passes of more than 10 yards. Much higher.
Who had the better completion percentage and who had more yards/game? Why do you only want to count passing offense as passes that are 10 yards or more?

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His bad throw % much lower
Except Justin had the poorer completion%.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Caleb's " yardage production" is the product of his being allowed to pass 33 times per game.
"He threw too much to count how many yards he threw for." Sure, that's a reasonable criticism.

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And even with his being allowed to throw so often he still "produced" one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL
The 2023 Bears passing attack lead by your spank bank was in the bottom quartile in the NFL, oftentimes bottom quintile, in: Yards/Game, TD/Game, Net Yards/Attempt, and 1st Downs/Game.


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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His Yards per completion were higher.
Who threw for more yards, though, 2024 Caleb or 2023, 24-year old Justin? Why does yards/completion matter more than total yards?


The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His Air Yards also higher.
That's basically just stating Yards/Completion but in a different way, and is really dependent on scheme and blocking.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His on target% much higher.
2024 Caleb had a higher completion%.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His TD% much higher.
Who threw for more TDs?

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His completion % on passes of more than 10 yards. Much higher.
Who had the better completion percentage and who had more yards/game? Why do you only want to count passing offense as passes that are 10 yards or more?

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His bad throw % much lower
Except Justin had the poorer completion%.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Caleb's " yardage production" is the product of his being allowed to pass 33 times per game.
"He threw too much to count how many yards he threw for." Sure, that's a reasonable criticism.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
And even with his being allowed to throw so often he still "produced" one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL
The 2023 Bears passing attack lead by your spank bank was in the bottom quartile in the NFL, oftentimes bottom quintile, in: Yards/Game, TD/Game, Net Yards/Attempt, and 1st Downs/Game.


Justin Fields never averaged 33 passing attempts per game Golf Shoes.

Caleb Williams was 7th in Passing Attempts per game yet one of the worst in avg passing yards per game. But you being the knobslobber that you are were nevertheless impressed because he has "Repeatable Arm Talent" :lol:

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His Yards per completion were higher.
Who threw for more yards, though, 2024 Caleb or 2023, 24-year old Justin? Why does yards/completion matter more than total yards?


The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His Air Yards also higher.
That's basically just stating Yards/Completion but in a different way, and is really dependent on scheme and blocking.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His on target% much higher.
2024 Caleb had a higher completion%.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His TD% much higher.
Who threw for more TDs?

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His completion % on passes of more than 10 yards. Much higher.
Who had the better completion percentage and who had more yards/game? Why do you only want to count passing offense as passes that are 10 yards or more?

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
His bad throw % much lower
Except Justin had the poorer completion%.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Caleb's " yardage production" is the product of his being allowed to pass 33 times per game.
"He threw too much to count how many yards he threw for." Sure, that's a reasonable criticism.

The Doctor Of Style wrote:
And even with his being allowed to throw so often he still "produced" one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL
The 2023 Bears passing attack lead by your spank bank was in the bottom quartile in the NFL, oftentimes bottom quintile, in: Yards/Game, TD/Game, Net Yards/Attempt, and 1st Downs/Game.


Justin Fields never averaged 33 passing attempts per game Golf Shoes.

Caleb Williams was 7th in Passing Attempts per game yet one of the worst in avg passing yards per game. But you being the knobslobber that you are were nevertheless impressed because he has "Repeatable Arm Talent" :lol:

It was so repeatable that he completed more passes than Justin Fields ever did, yes. For more yards than Justin ever did, as well.


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None of it matters. All that matters is season 2 now. Dr. Style will have his chance to set the over/unders and we can see what happens.

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It was so repeatable that he completed more passes than Justin Fields ever did, yes. For more yards than Justin ever did, as well.


Hey Golf Shoes. Only an ignorant buffoon would ever be impressed by the fact that a guy who was 7th in pass attempts per game would be 23rd in Avg yardage per game. And in you Effingham War Hawks Team.Mascot, "WE" have found just that guy!

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None of it matters. All that matters is season 2 now. Dr. Style will have his chance to set the over/unders and we can see what happens.


Nah you're trying to buy time for more of your inane thoughts McCarver. I'm not interested in predictions that you will later backtrack from "fairly quickly"

There is a full season body of work to "digest" first.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
None of it matters. All that matters is season 2 now. Dr. Style will have his chance to set the over/unders and we can see what happens.


Nah you're trying to by time for more of your inane thoughts McCarver. I'm not interested in predictions that you will later backtrack from "fairly quickly"

There is a full season body of work to "digest" first.

Oh, so you aren't willing to do so. Sounds like someone is doubting their own thoughts on Caleb Williams.

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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
None of it matters. All that matters is season 2 now. Dr. Style will have his chance to set the over/unders and we can see what happens.


Nah you're trying to by time for more of your inane thoughts McCarver. I'm not interested in predictions that you will later backtrack from "fairly quickly"

There is a full season body of work to "digest" first.

Oh, so you aren't willing to do so. Sounds like someone is doubting their own thoughts on Caleb Williams.


You can feel free to do your own over/under since it's so important to you.

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Sure. But I'm not the one certain he isn't good.

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