Only doing it with one quarterback isn't a red flag or anything, but it's something that needs to be weighed appropriately.

Johnson’s been in the NFL in some capacity since 2012.. Coen is much greener than that. I also like what I’ve seen from Ben Johnson much more from a play calling and play design standpoint -he’s proven to be one of the most creative play designers in the game now for several years. So I don’t agree with you on this.


I’d add that ‘the approach’ on my end isn’t limited to what I said in the post you quoted. Just that specific topic of Brady Vs Johnson in regards to Allen Vs Goff

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Btw I’m not saying Coen can’t be successful, just that I like Ben Johnson the most from what I’ve seen in regards to the ‘hot new coordinator’ thing

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I'll take the guy who took an above average QB and forced him into the discussion of (actual, realistic) Top 5 NFL QBs based on production alone, over the guy who happens to be the coordinator for or QB coach of an already-established elite talent.

I want Johnson as much as you do, but by the way the bears are going about this you have to start looking at the second tier. Liam is the clear cut choice in the second tier.

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Idk, it doesn’t seem like you want Johnson that bad.

You say you’d love Johnson. You want Johnson as much as a person can desire Johnson and yet…you don’t seem desperate for Johnson. Having alternatives to Johnson in your head suggests you’re not focused on Johnson.

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I don't want Johnson, I NEED Johnson. I crave Johnson deperately, but the bears will not provide Johnson.

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Chico Rivera, come on down!

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Vrabel to the Pats sounds just about locked in.

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Confirmed this morning.

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Flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami

No way Vrabel would want to waste time in meetings with Poles and Warren, too much of a red ass for George. Would want to do things the "Patriots Way".

Poles is supposedly afraid of Ben Johnson, so that likely is out as well.

Thought originally, they would lose out on the top 2-3 candidates and as usual, have to settle for whatever is left, that is the "Bears Way".

If they strike out on Johnson, Vrabel, and Carroll, a distinct possibility with the Raiders sniffing around Carroll now, it has to be considered a major failure for the Bears simply on public-relations terms. Again, tell us why this enterprise needs to be subsidized by taxpayers.

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Carroll is a terrible choice. We only want Presidents that old.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Carroll has more energy than most 50 year olds (I know that sounds like something Karine Jean-Pierre would say, but still.)

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Carroll comes in puts the adults in charge.

I want nothing to do with defensive coaches. Johnson, Brady, Munchin and Coen, Kinsbury in that order.

If they don't get one of those guys it is a failure.

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Like Shane Waldron. No thanks!

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Remember like six days ago when everyone was saying this was the best job available?

Nobody wants to deal with the McCaskeys and nobody wants to accept responsibility for Caleb Williams. Hard facts. They would rather deal with Mark Davis and the Raiders.

I was being facetious. I don't want that old smelly fuck.

" Word" is the Raiders owner did not want to try doing things the "Patriot way" again which obviously meant Vrabel was toast and they really have their sights set on Johnson.

I love Pete Carroll but I just wonder what his angle is. It doesn’t make much sense for him to be interested.

Are the Raiders pitching a structure with Tom Brady as minority owner who also serves as President of Football Ops where Ben Johnson gets to be head coach and handpick a GM to work with Brady? I just don’t see a way the Bears top that. It seems pretty much golden.

His woke, goth, communist daughter starts attending SAIC in the fall.

from SI :

According to Ian Rapoport of NFL Network, the Bears are going to find the Raiders are in this pursuit of Johnson for the long haul if they can't secure Brady's buddy Mike Vrabel. And doing that seems unlikely. Also, it's been reported by NFL Network that Brady is personally recruiting Johnson.

Let's see, George McCaskey or Tom Brady. ... Hmmm. Tough decision.

Apparently Johnson and others just didn't get the memo about how great the Bears job is.

Once again aggressive and forward-thinking teams are stepping up while the Bears are interviewing everyone with a resume and the internet, and including everyone at Halas Hall in the interview process except maybe equipment manager Tony Medlin. The Raiders are threatening to leave the hesitant, slow-moving Bears with secondary options in the coaching hunt and that's usually what they accept.

The Bears could have gained a quick advantage with Vrabel by interviewing him last week, although there's no doubt he eventually could have found his way to New England to interview out of respect to his former team.

On Saturday, it almost seemed like a face-saving measure as word leaked out while Johnson completed his Bears interview that the team will now interview former Bears defensive coordinator and linebacker Ron Rivera.

CH you know what to do

Go on...

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You know the words, sing along…

We missed the Whit Stillman Q&A last month.

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