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Really fragile Larry saying he had a mental health episode seeing Comcast csn had deleted his video archives from his work there.


At the beginning of yesterday's transition, in a reference to Jan 20 and Trump taking over, Spiegel asked if everyone (his co-hosts) are doing "ok".


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Really fragile Larry saying he had a mental health episode seeing Comcast csn had deleted his video archives from his work there.


At the beginning of yesterday's transition, in a reference to Jan 20 and Trump taking over, Spiegel asked if everyone (his co-hosts) are doing "ok".
Willing to bet he didnt feel the need to ask that question Jan 20, 2020.

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Really fragile Larry saying he had a mental health episode seeing Comcast csn had deleted his video archives from his work there.


At the beginning of yesterday's transition, in a reference to Jan 20 and Trump taking over, Spiegel asked if everyone (his co-hosts) are doing "ok".
Willing to bet he didnt feel the need to ask that question Jan 20, 2020.


Still playing to some imaginary base of SWJ warriors...kind of sad, the rest of the world has moved on, didn't he see Obama yukking it up with Trump.

Thought Bobby Heenan really hated Greg Gagne when I was in grade school, of course Heenan was way better at his job than your average lefty media hack, but you get the feeling some of these crackpot political marks actually really believe the political BS.

Lil' Danny' has traded the "imaginary guy in the sky" for Joe Biden, really hard to take people like that seriously, even if they are just yakking about sports.


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After all Spiegel has gone through battling his weight problem it's amazing how proud he is talking about how unhealthy he eats now.


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Did anyone catch the tense 15 minute exchange between Holmes and Spiegs today after 5:30? I thought it got fairly intense with Holmes telling Spiegs he is being disrespectful to him. Shane broke it up with humor. It then resumed a little less heated but the 5:30 to 5:45 segment was a something.
Holmes accused Spiegs of betrayal. Definitely worth a listen..


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ok, I'm easily distracted, so I gave it a listen

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2373006441?t=12h47m25s

yeah this was pretty tense

it goes to their failings as hosts. Laurence is way up his own ass (when trying to find this moment it is like five minutes straight of him talking and gesticulating) and Spiegel is insecure and needs approval and takes things personally.

Though unlike with other cohosts (or Bernstein), I don't think Laurence gets that kind of deference from Spiegel.

I've read on this board that you like the hosts disagreeing, and this was certainly that. But it was not on sports or even "politics", but like Spiegel's mindset of hope or whatever (I couldn't actually get through the whole thing)

in my opinion, Spiegel was the 'wrong' one here. But Laurence is just a less likeable person so it's hard to say he won the argument.


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As a fan of sports talk arguments, that was the worst sports talk argument I’ve ever heard. PTFB on my own phone.

From what I heard, Leery was reeling and Spiegel somehow came out the bigger asshole.

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:lol: These two. Both of them are pussies. Larry claiming disrespect. Meatpants saying he was triggered. Give me a fucking break. Either have a decent argument or both of you shut up and go back to talking about something sports related.

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I could barely finish reading that summary, so I sure am not going to actually listen.


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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?


I just watched it and can't figure it out. It's kind of a microcosm of what WSCR has become. North, Mac, and Terry never engaged in this kind of back and forth.

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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

It's kind of hard to tell but I think it's "are you allowed to think that the Bears might be good next year?" Spiegel said you are because you have to be hopeful in life, and Leery disagreed because...?

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pittmike wrote:
What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

faith and hope

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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

The main driver was the definition of possible v probable and it escalated when Spiegel invoked religious faith, which very much upset Leery (rightfully so in context).

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ok, I'm easily distracted, so I gave it a listen

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2373006441?t=12h47m25s

yeah this was pretty tense

it goes to their failings as hosts. Laurence is way up his own ass (when trying to find this moment it is like five minutes straight of him talking and gesticulating) and Spiegel is insecure and needs approval and takes things personally.

Though unlike with other cohosts (or Bernstein), I don't think Laurence gets that kind of deference from Spiegel.

I've read on this board that you like the hosts disagreeing, and this was certainly that. But it was not on sports or even "politics", but like Spiegel's mindset of hope or whatever (I couldn't actually get through the whole thing)

in my opinion, Spiegel was the 'wrong' one here. But Laurence is just a less likeable person so it's hard to say he won the argument.


I my fucking God. THIS CONVERSATION is why the TERRORIST hate us.

I listened to the entire fucking thing. And I don't understand what the hell they were fighting about or why they cared to fight each other over what the fuck they were fighting about. Both a couple of pussies like was said earlier. At the end, even though he didn't know why he had to apologize, Spiegel did because he was scared that Larry would think he was a racist. It's that simple.

We'll never get the data on this, but several suicides were committed in Chicago after people listened to this stupid conversation. I guarantee you. Sweet dreams Larry and Spiegel, funerals are in 3 days because of you two fucking idiots.

Here's how it should go. You say something. The other guy says something. You kill a 20 minute segment basically repeating yourself. Then you move on to another stupid sports segment that doesn't matter. Sports radio shows is just killing time for 4 hours and playing commercials. Nobody should get upset about anything.


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I listened to the entire fucking thing.


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I listened to the entire fucking thing.


Reason #3 on the top ten list of why white women hate you.


Correct.


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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

It's kind of hard to tell but I think it's "are you allowed to think that the Bears might be good next year?" Spiegel said you are because you have to be hopeful in life, and Leery disagreed because...?


It isn't exactly the best time to ask White Sox fans to have faith in management and their process

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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?

The main driver was the definition of possible v probable and it escalated when Spiegel invoked religious faith, which very much upset Leery (rightfully so in context).


If I can channel my inner Beardown, I think Sir became offended when Spiegs brought up religious faith because Sir is a devout person in (or on the edge of) an existential crises and he has put his trust in the Lord to help him. Meanwhile, Spiegs idea of faith is some drippy "I'm spiritual" requiring zero self examination or effort. So when Spiegs speaks of faith its almost like a blaspheme to a person like Sir.

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I missed that segment. I had to find something else to listen to while those two took turns seeing who could get kyler gordon's dick further down their throat. They are both completely insufferable when it comes to anything Bears. There is no discussion, no point and counterpoint, its just unapologetic ass licking of anyone and anything at Halas Hall.

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I missed that segment. I had to find something else to listen to while those two took turns seeing who could get kyler gordon's dick further down their throat. They are both completely insufferable when it comes to anything Bears. There is no discussion, no point and counterpoint, its just unapologetic ass licking of anyone and anything at Halas Hall.


Lawrence disagrees. He likes to remind his audience that he held people accountable in Halas Hall and that management didn't like him because of his reputation for doing that.


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pittmike wrote:
What was the actual subject of the disagreement?


Holmes said the Sox have no chance this year with Reinsdorf as owner. Spiegs said he has faith in the Sox.

Holmes said that was silly because the Sox suck and Spiegs asked him if he had faith in god :lol:

Holmes called him out on his stupid comparison and Spiegs back peddled his comment comparing Reinsdorf to God.

Best radio I have heard from those two. Actually listened for more than 30 seconds yesterday.

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What was the actual subject of the disagreement?


Holmes said the Sox have no chance this year with Reinsdorf as owner. Spiegs said he has faith in the Sox.

Holmes said that was silly because the Sox suck and Spiegs asked him if he had faith in god :lol:

Holmes called him out on his stupid comparison and Spiegs back peddled his comment comparing Reinsdorf to God.

Best radio I have heard from those two. Actually listened for more than 30 seconds yesterday.


Thanks. I got out of car before it.

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Reared on the Score wrote:
ok, I'm easily distracted, so I gave it a listen

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2373006441?t=12h47m25s

yeah this was pretty tense

it goes to their failings as hosts. Laurence is way up his own ass (when trying to find this moment it is like five minutes straight of him talking and gesticulating) and Spiegel is insecure and needs approval and takes things personally.

Though unlike with other cohosts (or Bernstein), I don't think Laurence gets that kind of deference from Spiegel.

I've read on this board that you like the hosts disagreeing, and this was certainly that. But it was not on sports or even "politics", but like Spiegel's mindset of hope or whatever (I couldn't actually get through the whole thing)

in my opinion, Spiegel was the 'wrong' one here. But Laurence is just a less likeable person so it's hard to say he won the argument.


The 30 seconds before the end Laurence just spills it all "you're trying to make me look like the negative one", just admitting his entire concern is how Laurence is perceived and that is Laurence's entire reason for living. It's all appearances, he's the good guy, he lifts as he climbs, he mentors his students, he is happy for everyone that gets hired and very sad for everyone that loses their job.
I think Spiegel was unknowingly cracking Laurence's carefully built image of himself and that made it very personal to him.

Spiegel always does the positive fan thing, it's laughable how much he eats the shit Jed Hoyer serves him and calls it delicious and it's certainly not a new thing.

and it was great. Laurence should get really upset every day.

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Bottom line. And I said it when they announced this pairing. These two don’t like each other. And have to pretend to like one an other. I personally think it’s impossible to like Larry cuz he’s such a phony.

Larry pretends to care about the world and poor people. At the end of the day, Larry only cares about Larry.


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Bottom line. And I said it when they announced this pairing. These two don’t like each other. And have to pretend to like one an other. I personally think it’s impossible to like Larry cuz he’s such a phony.

Larry pretends to care about the world and poor people. At the end of the day, Larry only cares about Larry.


I hope we get more of Larry's mask slipping and the real Larry showing up going forward, it's the only interesting thing about that show. Spiegel and Holmes leaning into their animosity would be wildly entertaining.

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Reared on the Score wrote:
ok, I'm easily distracted, so I gave it a listen

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2373006441?t=12h47m25s

yeah this was pretty tense

it goes to their failings as hosts. Laurence is way up his own ass (when trying to find this moment it is like five minutes straight of him talking and gesticulating) and Spiegel is insecure and needs approval and takes things personally.

Though unlike with other cohosts (or Bernstein), I don't think Laurence gets that kind of deference from Spiegel.

I've read on this board that you like the hosts disagreeing, and this was certainly that. But it was not on sports or even "politics", but like Spiegel's mindset of hope or whatever (I couldn't actually get through the whole thing)

in my opinion, Spiegel was the 'wrong' one here. But Laurence is just a less likeable person so it's hard to say he won the argument.


The 30 seconds before the end Laurence just spills it all "you're trying to make me look like the negative one", just admitting his entire concern is how Laurence is perceived and that is Laurence's entire reason for living. It's all appearances, he's the good guy, he lifts as he climbs, he mentors his students, he is happy for everyone that gets hired and very sad for everyone that loses their job.
I think Spiegel was unknowingly cracking Laurence's carefully built image of himself and that made it very personal to him.

Spiegel always does the positive fan thing, it's laughable how much he eats the shit Jed Hoyer serves him and calls it delicious and it's certainly not a new thing.

and it was great. Laurence should get really upset every day.


Meatpants better be careful about getting into an elevator with Larry in the near future. Well that's not probably physically possible, but still...

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Bottom line. And I said it when they announced this pairing. These two don’t like each other. And have to pretend to like one an other. I personally think it’s impossible to like Larry cuz he’s such a phony.

Larry pretends to care about the world and poor people. At the end of the day, Larry only cares about Larry.


Did you notice the part of the argument when they were talking about Spiegs being contractually in charge of the show? That didn't sound like kidding

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Beardown wrote:
Bottom line. And I said it when they announced this pairing. These two don’t like each other. And have to pretend to like one an other. I personally think it’s impossible to like Larry cuz he’s such a phony.

Larry pretends to care about the world and poor people. At the end of the day, Larry only cares about Larry.


Did you notice the part of the argument when they were talking about Spiegs being contractually in charge of the show? That didn't sound like kidding


holy shit really? I have to go back and listen, that's incredible.

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