Thoughts on Sean Payton?

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I’d assume so. He’s young and he’s got talent. He has to land with the right team/coach/system to have success tho. He won’t necessarily be the kind of QB that can be plugged into just any system. I can see him getting 1 more shot from a team in between better options.


I do think it may be another ‘win the job’ in preseason/training camp type thing tho.

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Had a much harder path to his SB and beat the living shit out of Brett Favre to get there, clears McCarthy easily for me. This isn't objective stuff here, I don't want McCarthy on the Bears sideline, ever, period. McCarthy is not nearly a good enough coach for the dipshits at Halas Hall to ask us to stomach that when it has very little chance of paying off to begin with. Name some other 3rd time HCs that won the ultimate prize.

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Payton 9-9 career playoff record, very similar coaches.

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McCarthy reportedly staying for dinner....Bears going bigtime.

A flight landed from Addison Texas at Palwaukee at 11:51...did the Bears cough up the money for that as well?

They sure did, Cronin reported that the Bears "broke protocol" to fly him in private.

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I'd rather sort the list of NFL teams by points scored per game and then offer the job to those OCs without even interviewing them over McCarthy. I want an A or an F and not a B- or C+.

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John Fox 8-7 career playoff record, was a total disaster here.

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That's how you get Nathaniel Hackett, no thanks.

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So has every Bears coach

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Based on this criteria:
Johnson
Brady
Monken
Something named Liam Coen(pass)
Kingsbury

4 out of 5 isn't bad.

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Any hire short of Ben Johnson is an abject failure. He showed you everything in his playbook while he was giving your "above average" defense a moon-pounding at home for no other discernable reason than to give a glimpse at what he could do with Caleb Williams and Co.

It's Johnson then a gap the size of the Pacific Ocean and then everyone else. The Bears wouldn't even hire Kingsbury to be OC over Waldron, I know they'll most likely fuck up any non-Ben Johnson hire, so just please don't have the fuck up be Mike McCarthy.

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Brady is easily option 1A. People are too hung up on the report that Ben Johnson desperately wants to be the Bears head coach. He's the best option on the market but there are a lot of good offensive minds available which would make the McCarthy hire so horrible even though McCarthy probably has some 9-8 seasons ahead of him in Chicago.

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Who reported Ben Johnson desperately wants to be the Bears head coach? All I've read is that Johnson to the Raiders is gaining a lot of momentum.

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It was reported that even last offseason the Bears job was what he really wanted.

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why was arthur smith interviewed? just to ask how they were able to win 4 out of 6 games with justin fields?

He missed the playoffs in 2 of 5 yrs in Dallas and was 1-3 in the yrs they made the playoffs. This would be like New Orleans hiring Ditka in 1997 because he had a string of good seasons in the mid to late 80s.

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Agreed…I want a Super Bowl or a Marc Trestman train wreck. The latter would at least be entertaining.

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From the Johnson world :

A Commanders TV analyst, Lake Lewis Jr., told podcaster Rio Robinson that Johnson wanted Sam Howell to be his quarterback when he was going to interview with Washington for head coach last year, and that he wasn't interested in drafting Jayden Daniels to be QB. And Lewis reported the interview was canceled because the Commanders were planning to draft Daniels.

No one can question Johnson's ability to coordinate an offense and he has done it with Jared Goff, who wasn't regarded among the league's best quarterbacks until he got into Johnson's attack.

From McCarthy world :


McCarthy's expertise obviously comes on the offensive side and the in-depth, well-sourced article Tyler Dunne did for Bleacher Report on McCarthy's and Aaron Rodgers' dysfunctional relationship signaled several problems with the former Cowboys-Packers coach in the past.

Dunne found one unnamed personnel man who called McCarthy "a fake tough guy," and a situation was described that is familiar to many Bears fans from this past season with Matt Eberflus.

"McCarthy rarely fined or benched or sent messages to players and paid the price...," Dunne wrote.

Without a serious thumb down on the team, Dunne wrote he was told there was "...a soft mindset that'd constantly rear its ugly head.' "

Bears fans have been looking for something cling onto justify why they went from desperately wanting him to being totally fine with the Bears absolutely whiffing on him and this anecdote will suffice.

Oh DEI George is gonna love this.

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Concerned because Brady and Monken have talented bailout QBs. I don't think Brady is 1A to Johnson. Why do you think he's a 1A?

There was active reporting at the time that Johnson backed out because he thought he was dealing with basketball people who didn’t know anything about football but were incredibly arrogant.

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I believe very strongly that Washington would’ve dealt the farm to move to number one to take Caleb Williams. And I am almost certain they had no idea what they were getting with Jayden Daniels until at the earliest training camp and at the latest the Hail Maryland.

Sometimes it really is better to be lucky than good. Saved by the incompetence and stubbornness of the Bears who will overturn over rock in the entire world in their fruitless coach search but never bothered to consider any of the other quarterbacks in last years draft.

Daniels was #2 on a lot of draft boards, he wasn’t some unknown or risky reach of a draft pick. I’m pretty sure they knew what they were getting in terms of talent. As for it translating to the field that’s always a coin toss. But they knew pretty quickly and were buzzing about him during camp.


They obviously wanted Caleb too but I don’t think they were too worried about landing their 2nd choice in Daniels. If that were the case, they would have traded out of that spot for a haul of their own.


This draft had 4 QB’s that were viewed as potential top 10 picks with Nix also being viewed by some as an option in the 1st round too (which he was). Maye, Daniels, and Williams all being interchangeable depending on who you were listening to as the very top guys.

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I don't think this is right tho. Williams was pretty much the 1 on every board. The rest were interchangeable as to who was considered 2-4 in the QB rankings. Some had Daniels, some had Maye, etc.

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