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Is Knight good enough to be the main goalie moving forward?

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yeah...he's got the pedigree for that and only 23. extremely rare for a 23 G to be a club's #1 and be an upper-echelon G in the league. going forward, believe the club thinks knight has a better chance than soderblom to be that #1. will he be an upper-echelon G? i think florida traded knight due to cap issues. bobrovsky is earning $10 million and with knight at $4.5 million, how can they pay their Gs $14.5 million and deal with the cap with FWDs & D?

personally, i still want soderblom to be resigned and given another extended chance. he's passed the test this year.

club has lots and lots of cap space, but that could evaporate quickly in 2 years. is soderblom worth $2.5 million-$3 millon a year as a back-up on rebuilding club, if knight is your hopeful #1 at $4.5 million and looking for more money after next season? i believe ex-hawk lankinen just signed an extension with the canucks for $4.5 million per. good play and insurance for demko. hawks don't need to overpay for G insurance, plenty of Gs here.

if commesso showed more this season, i'd think GM kyle would be looking to trade soderblom, not mrazek. club has 4 nhl Gs signed, too much money and too many goalies for any club. there will be movement.


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Easy win last night but still doubled up on shots. Some of that was protecting the lead, but you cannot be giving up that number of chances. They cannot clear the puck effectively.

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Is Knight good enough to be the main goalie moving forward?

He's young and he has a high ceiling. He's 2 years younger today than Crow was when he was elevated to starter since goalies take some time to develop.

He's not going to be a Vezina winner, but he's the guy you can count on if you build a good team in front of him.

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yeah...he's got the pedigree for that and only 23. extremely rare for a 23 G to be a club's #1 and be an upper-echelon G in the league. going forward, believe the club thinks knight has a better chance than soderblom to be that #1. will he be an upper-echelon G? i think florida traded knight due to cap issues. bobrovsky is earning $10 million and with knight at $4.5 million, how can they pay their Gs $14.5 million and deal with the cap with FWDs & D?

personally, i still want soderblom to be resigned and given another extended chance. he's passed the test this year.

club has lots and lots of cap space, but that could evaporate quickly in 2 years. is soderblom worth $2.5 million-$3 millon a year as a back-up on rebuilding club, if knight is your hopeful #1 at $4.5 million and looking for more money after next season? i believe ex-hawk lankinen just signed an extension with the canucks for $4.5 million per. good play and insurance for demko. hawks don't need to overpay for G insurance, plenty of Gs here.

if commesso showed more this season, i'd think GM kyle would be looking to trade soderblom, not mrazek. club has 4 nhl Gs signed, too much money and too many goalies for any club. there will be movement.

Mrazek might be a buyout candidate if you can't move him, but then again you can probably move him this summer if you retain something.

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i'm thinking they might be able to move mrazek now and give a 3rd party club a 3rd round pick to retain half of mrazek's contract - out of the many picks they have stockpiled. the issue here is that mrazek's form has fallen off a cliff and he rightly or wrongly has a rap of being injury prone - don't believe they'd find a taker for him. if this was early december, yes. looked very good then.

likely a buyout candidate next year along with brodie and maybe brossoit. if mrazek, brodie and brossoit are bought out, only 1 year buy-outs. highly unlikely all 3 will get bought out. could be a fire-sale.

2 salary retentions come off the books next season in rantanen and mccabe and an additional $6.625 million is freed up for cap or other retentions/buyouts.


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I switched from the TV feed to the radio feed at the first intermission and Troy was just ripping the entire team (other than Knight) new assholes for the sloppy play. He counted 15 giveaways, even though the official stats only had three listed.

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i'm thinking they might be able to move mrazek now and give a 3rd party club a 3rd round pick to retain half of mrazek's contract - out of the many picks they have stockpiled. the issue here is that mrazek's form has fallen off a cliff and he rightly or wrongly has a rap of being injury prone - don't believe they'd find a taker for him. if this was early december, yes. looked very good then.

likely a buyout candidate next year along with brodie and maybe brossoit. if mrazek, brodie and brossoit are bought out, only 1 year buy-outs. highly unlikely all 3 will get bought out. could be a fire-sale.

2 salary retentions come off the books next season in rantanen and mccabe and an additional $6.625 million is freed up for cap or other retentions/buyouts.

Now is the time to eat the buyout costs as you won't need that cap space during the next 2 seasons and it clears books for when you do need it.

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 Post subject: Re: 2024-2025 Season
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I switched from the TV feed to the radio feed at the first intermission and Troy was just ripping the entire team (other than Knight) new assholes for the sloppy play. He counted 15 giveaways, even though the official stats only had three listed.


It was incredibly sloppy. They had a play late in the 3rd at their own blue like where the puck was on a guy’s stick and just had to dump it slightly ahead for a breakaway to a teammate, and instead the Kings’ Dman held it in. It was embarrassing.

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i'm thinking they might be able to move mrazek now and give a 3rd party club a 3rd round pick to retain half of mrazek's contract - out of the many picks they have stockpiled. the issue here is that mrazek's form has fallen off a cliff and he rightly or wrongly has a rap of being injury prone - don't believe they'd find a taker for him. if this was early december, yes. looked very good then.

likely a buyout candidate next year along with brodie and maybe brossoit. if mrazek, brodie and brossoit are bought out, only 1 year buy-outs. highly unlikely all 3 will get bought out. could be a fire-sale.

2 salary retentions come off the books next season in rantanen and mccabe and an additional $6.625 million is freed up for cap or other retentions/buyouts.

Now is the time to eat the buyout costs as you won't need that cap space during the next 2 seasons and it clears books for when you do need it.


Is there a limit to the number of buyouts they can have on the books?


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I didn't even know they played last night.

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You would have enjoyed seeing the goalie get his first win. He had a lot of work.

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Knight looked outstanding. He commanded the net and damn near got off an empty net shot up 3. I also enjoyed watching Dach last night. He might not be as skilled as his brother but he is a hell of alot more useful. He put a lot of Kings on their asses in the 3rd and he had a very nice steal behind the net and an immediate and accurate centering pass to AA for a score. Its amazing how much better and even happier the team looks with Jones gone. What a worthless piece of shit. I can not believe they got the deal they got for him. I thought they would have to give up some prospect talent just to get someone to take him. It was surprising to see Foligno's comments on him after he floated his trade desires. He pretty much called him a shit teammate without saying it directly.

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Knight looked outstanding. He commanded the net and damn near got off an empty net shot up 3. I also enjoyed watching Dach last night. He might not be as skilled as his brother but he is a hell of alot more useful. He put a lot of Kings on their asses in the 3rd and he had a very nice steal behind the net and an immediate and accurate centering pass to AA for a score. Its amazing how much better and even happier the team looks with Jones gone. What a worthless piece of shit. I can not believe they got the deal they got for him. I thought they would have to give up some prospect talent just to get someone to take him. It was surprising to see Foligno's comments on him after he floated his trade desires. He pretty much called him a shit teammate without saying it directly.


If Knight had shot an empty net goal in his first start, he'd be an immediate legend.

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Zawaski was on with Larry and Spiegs. Says this G is the real deal. Just got blocked in FL by their legend.

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Zawaski was on with Larry and Spiegs. Says this G is the real deal. Just got blocked in FL by their legend.

Zawaski is a terrible assessor of hockey talent... but he isn't wrong on Knight.

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i'm thinking they might be able to move mrazek now and give a 3rd party club a 3rd round pick to retain half of mrazek's contract - out of the many picks they have stockpiled. the issue here is that mrazek's form has fallen off a cliff and he rightly or wrongly has a rap of being injury prone - don't believe they'd find a taker for him. if this was early december, yes. looked very good then.

likely a buyout candidate next year along with brodie and maybe brossoit. if mrazek, brodie and brossoit are bought out, only 1 year buy-outs. highly unlikely all 3 will get bought out. could be a fire-sale.

2 salary retentions come off the books next season in rantanen and mccabe and an additional $6.625 million is freed up for cap or other retentions/buyouts.

Now is the time to eat the buyout costs as you won't need that cap space during the next 2 seasons and it clears books for when you do need it.


Is there a limit to the number of buyouts they can have on the books?


no, i don't believe so...will look into it.


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pittmike wrote:
Zawaski was on with Larry and Spiegs. Says this G is the real deal. Just got blocked in FL by their legend.

Zawaski is a terrible assessor of hockey talent... but he isn't wrong on Knight.


he was fighting the good fight for jones when the criticism of jones ramped up this year. him and the other two on their blackhawk podcast.

bill zito is is well-regarded, and he was familiar with jones when both were at columbus and wanted jones again - with his stanley cup winning club. therefore: jones is good.

believe the blackhawks are 8-9-1 without jones this year.


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looks like soderblom gets the start tonight and dach has been moved to help bedard. slaggert dropped a few lines. celebrini with a goal and 2 posts last night in a shark win over buffalo.

back to back games this fri-sat, likely see knight on friday against utah...unless soderblom gets a shutout tonight.

still believe nhl clubs have an unlimited amount of contract buy-outs.


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NWsider4-3-3 wrote:
looks like soderblom gets the start tonight and dach has been moved to help bedard. slaggert dropped a few lines. celebrini with a goal and 2 posts last night in a shark win over buffalo.

back to back games this fri-sat, likely see knight on friday against utah...unless soderblom gets a shutout tonight.

still believe nhl clubs have an unlimited amount of contract buy-outs.


Just looked it up and there is no limit to the number of buyouts they can have. I look for the Hawks buy out guys like Mrazek if no one wants him.


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Nearly every NHL team has some money tied up in players no longer playing for the club or penalties for exceeding the salary cap the prior season, usually due to clubs not having ample space in their performance bonus cushion. Buyouts are generally the most common form of money tied up in players not on the active roster or injured reserve. However, they also don’t come into play much during the regular season, as teams can only execute them during specific windows over the summer.

Retained salary transactions, though, do matter year-round. They’re also occurring more frequently as the number of multi-team trades increases, allowing playoff contenders and big spenders to accumulate more talent at lesser cap hits while rebuilding squads accumulate assets for taking on a portion of a player’s contract who will never play for them.

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blackhawks get a loser's point against ottawa...lose 4-3 in ot. i believe the last time we won in ot/shoot-out was in L.A.

when they start the o.t. with bedard/donato/vlasic, may be the worst 3 of any 3x3 in the nhl.

what in the world was vlasic thinking on ottawa's first goal? why did he vacate the crease? easy tip-in for brady tkachuk, no chance for soderblom. on the 3rd goal, vlasic was glued to the crease, allowed norris to peel off and get space for his one-timer. this guy needs a total reset. nowhere near playing to his capabilities.

bedard with his 7th consecutive game with no points. this is reese johnson level production. watched highlites of celebrini against the sabres - and not so sure he's got the quickest draw in the west. another guy who needs to sit one game, will never sit. dach, crevier and vlasic with games to forget. bad.

good on donato for scoring a gimmie, may have been his last game with the blackhawks. getting tremors out of toronto as both florida (jones) and tampa (gourde and bjorstrand) have made trades to bolster their club. the leafs in a bit of a rut, getting smashed tonight in las vegas...will they overpay for donato to please their fan base?? friday, 2 pm deadline.


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I really think the Seth Jones trade was a BIG turning point. I think they are going to have a very solid offseason in adding pieces.


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Bedard on the ice looks totally confused, like somebody stole his puppy and sent a ransom demand with a photo of the puppy being assfucked by a golden retriever.

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Not that I am a big Zawaski fan, they did bring up Nate MacKinnon as a comp to Bedard. His first (4) years were kind of pedestrian.


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colorado went for brock nelson over donato. gave up a 1st round pick and some young talent (ritchie, taken 27th in 2023 draft, overall) for nelson, an obvious rental. tampa just massively over payed seattle.

hopefully, the backhawks can benefit from another club's rash decision making.

one way or another, someone will over pay for donato - whether it's a club trading for him or the blackhawks resigning him or as an UFA, after this season.


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leafs just traded a 1st round pick and a khl hopeful to the flyers for C laughton.

laughton, 30 y/o with 11 goals and 16 assists this year. if this is the leaf pushback on the panthers and lightning...fairly lame. looks like rantanen going to dallas...carolina with a disaster trade a few months ago.

wouldn't mind donato resigned, just don't want to over pay for him.


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GM kyle gets rid of mrazek contract..

mrazek and craig smith to detroit for bottom 6/face-off guy C joe veleno. cap space increases by some $3 million.


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GM kyle gets rid of mrazek contract..

mrazek and craig smith to detroit for bottom 6/face-off guy C joe veleno. cap space increases by some $3 million.

They can run him through waivers and banish him to Rockford like they did with AA, right? I mean if someone wants to claim him, great.

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GM kyle with lots of money to burn, just to get to the cap floor for next season ($70.6 million). cap ceiling will be $95.5 million. club has $54.7 million in contract obligations for next year.

has decisions on how much to pay RFAs crevier/kaiser/soderblom and UFA, donato. RFA kurashev, likely gone. a few non-roster players contracts are expiring - up to him if he wants to keep them for rockford depth.

once that housekeeping is done, has money to chase free agent FWDs. lots of draft capital and salary cap money.

looking forward 6 months/1year, will players like bedard/korchinski/nazar break the bank when their ELCs expire? their production/level of play doesn't point that way.


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