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It's a short week anyway with the NCAA games. Send him home with pay, and give corporate HR a week to figure out either what their exposure is if they keep him or if they want to cut budget how to use this to force him out.

Mitch very likely didn't have a choice in the matter. Until then, the show still exists so Marshall has to treat it just like he would if Dan wasn't there due to norivirus.

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I'm not sure what the firable offense is. The guy was seemingly using his real name on twitter to attack Dan multiple times. Anyone who knows google can google his name and get information. He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

Now, maybe they want to move on but they aren't getting out of his contract because of this. So they can pay him to sit at home but they could have done that anyways.

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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?
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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?

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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?

He need not specify what "involved" actually means in order for the question "want your kids involved" to be threatening something concerning the guy's kids. It's not a crime, but certainly threatening.

You know what, this is absurd, I'm not going to debate with your further whether "Want your kids involved? Up to you. Just say "I'm sorry for being a dick" and I'll stop." is threatening in any manner. This is just clown-world stuff.
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I'm not sure what the firable offense is. The guy was seemingly using his real name on twitter to attack Dan multiple times. Anyone who knows google can google his name and get information. He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

Now, maybe they want to move on but they aren't getting out of his contract because of this. So they can pay him to sit at home but they could have done that anyways.


I wonder what would happen if Dan were able to explain it as a mental health episode. Doesn't Audacy preempt regular programming across all stations for an hour a year to do some phony-baloney Don't Be Depressed PSA? Do you not take your employees' mental health seriously when they're signed to contracts you'd rather not honor?

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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?

He need not specify what "involved" actually means in order for the question "want your kids involved" to be threatening something concerning the guy's kids. It's not a crime, but certainly threatening.

Threatening "involvement in an internet argument" with the guy's kids.

That's a fireable offense?

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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?

He need not specify what "involved" actually means in order for the question "want your kids involved" to be threatening something concerning the guy's kids. It's not a crime, but certainly threatening.

Threatening "involvement in an internet argument" with the guy's kids.

That's a fireable offense?

Now you're moving the goalposts. You said his comment about the guy's kids wasn't a threat. It was clearly threatening. End of subject.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Brick wrote:
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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?

He need not specify what "involved" actually means in order for the question "want your kids involved" to be threatening something concerning the guy's kids. It's not a crime, but certainly threatening.

Threatening "involvement in an internet argument" with the guy's kids.

That's a fireable offense?

Now you're moving the goalposts. You said his comment about the guy's kids wasn't a threat. It was clearly threatening. End of subject.


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Now you're moving the goalposts. You said his comment about the guy's kids wasn't a threat. It was clearly threatening. End of subject.
If you are going to be that technical, then I'll change it to "He said the word 'kids' but it didn't reach the level of a meaningful threat."

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Now you're moving the goalposts. You said his comment about the guy's kids wasn't a threat. It was clearly threatening. End of subject.
If you are going to be that technical, then I'll change it to "He said the word 'kids' but it didn't reach the level of a meaningful threat."

It was a vague threat about the troll's kids. Are vague threats, about anyone, a fireable offense? I don't know, I don't know what Dan has agreed to with the station about how he will conduct himself on social media. But it certainly could be fireable.

Would it be fireable if he made the vague threat on the air?
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That's why I'll ask again. What was the threat? He could easily just say he was going to @TrollsKid.

Ironically, you seem to be doing the Bernstein "Is that a threat?" thing where it sounds really bad to hear the word "threat" until you realize it probably means that the kids find out about MAGA dad getting into an argument about fish online.

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That's why I'll ask again. What was the threat? He could easily just say he was going to @TrollsKid.

Ironically, you seem to be doing the Bernstein "Is that a threat?" thing where it sounds really bad to hear the word "threat" until you realize it probably means that the kids find out about MAGA dad getting into an argument about fish online.

I don't think there's much wiggle room in deciding whether "want your kids involved?" is threatening, and I'm not going around in circles with you about it. It is clearly foreboding of some implied unwanted or unpleasant result, which is probably some textbook's definition of a "vague threat".

I'll put you down as thinking Dan can vaguely threaten someone's kids on the air and it wouldn't be a fireable offense.
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https://amp.awfulannouncing.com/radio/dan-bernstein-off-air-camp-dropped-one-step-charity.html
At least he didn't comment on someone's "boobies" or call a black woman basketball player a wildebeast this time!! Angry, insecure, hateful person.
Dan clearly has some temper and hate issues. His actions are inexcusable and he should be fired. Hopefully he can schedule a few more therapy sessions to help him understand where these hurtful feelings come from. This is 2025 and to threaten to dox someone is a sign of an insecure and unstable person. Dan needs help and I wish him the best in his next opportunity. Advertisers should boycott the Score unless he is fired.

Dont forget about that time he said something mean about Ron Santo 20 years ago

Now that One Step cut ties, maybe Dan can take up a new cause and join the fight against JDRF.


A cure for TDS perhaps?


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Brick wrote:
I'm not sure what the firable offense is. The guy was seemingly using his real name on twitter to attack Dan multiple times. Anyone who knows google can google his name and get information. He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

Now, maybe they want to move on but they aren't getting out of his contract because of this. So they can pay him to sit at home but they could have done that anyways.

Like I said a weather girl was fired in Milwaukee for basically the same shit, he can easily be fired and not get another cent if they want him gone.

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A cure for TDS perhaps?


The amount of people that Trump has broken is insane.


including all of his supporters https://www.startribune.com/justin-eich ... ource=gift
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I know. Another thread. You guys hate this shit from me. But this is a general question about media bosses.


I think this is an interesting topic.


Good job, definitely needed another thread to click into to see other's comments about the same crap being discussed in the big thread. While the duplicative thread is solid and a staple of your style, you missed your usual typo in the subject line. Jackass.
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Harry Seaward wrote:
Beardown wrote:
I know. Another thread. You guys hate this shit from me. But this is a general question about media bosses.


I think this is an interesting topic.


Good job, definitely needed another thread to click into to see other's comments about the same crap being discussed in the big thread. While the duplicative thread is solid and a staple of your style, you missed your usual typo in the subject line. Jackass.


wow, this is an example of you guys are talking about: we don't have to agree on everything to agree on something!
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Brick wrote:
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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?



You can lie to yourself if you want but I'm 100% certain if it were Caller Bob or The Hawk who said "DO YOU WANT YOUR KIDS BROUGHT INTO THIS???" to bernstein you'd be calling them scumbags. But go ahead and defend this little fish-killing punk if you want.

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That's why I'll ask again. What was the threat? He could easily just say he was going to @TrollsKid.

Ironically, you seem to be doing the Bernstein "Is that a threat?" thing where it sounds really bad to hear the word "threat" until you realize it probably means that the kids find out about MAGA dad getting into an argument about fish online.


You seem to be purposely obtuse.
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I hope the man who owns six cars so he doesn't have to put too much mileage on any of them can come out of this all right.

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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


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Where’s the threat?

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I hope the man who owns six cars so he doesn't have to put too much mileage on any of them can come out of this all right.

Is anyone saying he won’t be?

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I’m a bad enemy, fucker. I have your public info. Want me to release it? Are you worried yet? Want your kids involved?


Obtuse Brick wrote:
Where’s the threat?


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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?


You can lie to yourself if you want but I'm 100% certain if it were Caller Bob or The Hawk who said "DO YOU WANT YOUR KIDS BROUGHT INTO THIS???" to bernstein you'd be calling them scumbags. But go ahead and defend this little fish-killing punk if you want.


they're arguing over whether Bernstein should be fired, not if Bernstein should be called a scumbag

since you feel the need to be part of the conversation, provide some valuable perspective as a mod: are you 100% certain in your hypothetical analogue that BRick would ask those two to be kicked off the board?


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I hope the man who owns six cars so he doesn't have to put too much mileage on any of them can come out of this all right.

Is anyone saying he won’t be?


I am saying it*. I have the same psychology background (undiagnosed issues with projection) as you all, and therefore can assess that this Greg person is clearly miserable and broken by politics and unloved by anyone

*this is not a threat
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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.

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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.


exactly, and I'm no legal expert (so on the same level of everyone here) but I don't think it's illegal to "doxx" when it's already public information

Even Elon Musk gets confused on this, and he owns a rocket company!
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it's also insanely easy to find the public info that Bernstein was alluding to, the guy's name is Greg Messenger for god sake and he has a picture of his house on his profile. He's doxxing himself.

He has pictures of his license plates! Not pictures with his license plates in them, just "here is my license plate"!

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He said the word "kids" but it didn't reach the level of a threat.

:lol: He said "Want your kids involved?" What is that supposed to mean if it is not a threat to "involve" the guy's kids?

Involved in what? An internet argument?


You can lie to yourself if you want but I'm 100% certain if it were Caller Bob or The Hawk who said "DO YOU WANT YOUR KIDS BROUGHT INTO THIS???" to bernstein you'd be calling them scumbags. But go ahead and defend this little fish-killing punk if you want.


they're arguing over whether Bernstein should be fired, not if Bernstein should be called a scumbag

since you feel the need to be part of the conversation, provide some valuable perspective as a mod: are you 100% certain in your hypothetical analogue that BRick would ask those two to be kicked off the board?


They're arguing over whether dan threatened his kids. He most certainly did. Whether anything would have come of said threat, I would say I highly doubt it. But if the shoe were on the other foot, i.e. someone said the same exact thing about dan's kids, dan and his board sycophants (you?) would be thundering about "CALLING THE PROPER AUTHORITIES!"

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