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What sucks is Daddy Warbucks wouldn't approve the $$$ for Bregman which could have eased Shaw into the role. Now we've got a shitshow at 3B


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What sucks is Daddy Warbucks wouldn't approve the $$$ for Bregman which could have eased Shaw into the role. Now we've got a shitshow at 3B


How'd you like Nolan Arenado?


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What sucks is Daddy Warbucks wouldn't approve the $$$ for Bregman which could have eased Shaw into the role. Now we've got a shitshow at 3B


Relax junior. He will be back in a month or so.

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What sucks is Daddy Warbucks wouldn't approve the $$$ for Bregman which could have eased Shaw into the role. Now we've got a shitshow at 3B


Relax junior. He will be back in a month or so.


Meanwhile Bregman is hitting .321 with 4 homeruns. It's cool you wanna simp for a billionaire though.


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We need to create a fantasy waiting room here where Ralphie and shakes can speak of Bedard as the next Crosby or McDavid and Juiced can pimp Matt Shaw as the next Arenado.


Live in reality morons


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The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.

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The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.


No surprise, you also simp for a billionaire.


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Caller Bob wrote:
denisdman wrote:
The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.


No surprise, you also simp for a billionaire.


No, I simply understand the economics of the game. The Cubs' owners have invested in the stadium with their own money and around the neighborhood, while spending near the tax each year. The tax is punitive in that it is goes up percentage wise for multi-year violators. This is not the NBA, NHL, or NFL where either national tv money split fairly and/or caps/floors allows for even spending by every team. MLB has always skewed toward the wealthy markets, and these owners spend responsibly and sustainably. They are active on the big name free agents. You cannot mitigate bad contracts in MLB.

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denisdman wrote:
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The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.


No surprise, you also simp for a billionaire.


No, I simply understand the economics of the game. The Cubs' owners have invested in the stadium with their own money and around the neighborhood, while spending near the tax each year. The tax is punitive in that it is goes up percentage wise for multi-year violators. This is not the NBA, NHL, or NFL where either national tv money split fairly and/or caps/floors allows for even spending by every team. MLB has always skewed toward the wealthy markets, and these owners spend responsibly and sustainably. They are active on the big name free agents. You cannot mitigate bad contracts in MLB.

Your understanding of the economics is wrong


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Defense again....sigh.

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Caller Bob wrote:
denisdman wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.


No surprise, you also simp for a billionaire.


No, I simply understand the economics of the game. The Cubs' owners have invested in the stadium with their own money and around the neighborhood, while spending near the tax each year. The tax is punitive in that it is goes up percentage wise for multi-year violators. This is not the NBA, NHL, or NFL where either national tv money split fairly and/or caps/floors allows for even spending by every team. MLB has always skewed toward the wealthy markets, and these owners spend responsibly and sustainably. They are active on the big name free agents. You cannot mitigate bad contracts in MLB.

Your understanding of the economics is wrong


Huge if true....

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denisdman wrote:
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denisdman wrote:
Caller Bob wrote:
denisdman wrote:
The Cubs spend to the competitive balance tax. I think that is fair.

The Mets owner has a new toy. If he goes a decade, spends, and loses, he will tire of paying that harsh tax penalty. The Dodgers got lucky with a massive tv contract just before those disappeared.

So if you like Bregman (like Tucker), then you need to delete someone else. It is just the reality and current economics of MLB. And to compare a first time major leaguer to an established talent is silly.


No surprise, you also simp for a billionaire.


No, I simply understand the economics of the game. The Cubs' owners have invested in the stadium with their own money and around the neighborhood, while spending near the tax each year. The tax is punitive in that it is goes up percentage wise for multi-year violators. This is not the NBA, NHL, or NFL where either national tv money split fairly and/or caps/floors allows for even spending by every team. MLB has always skewed toward the wealthy markets, and these owners spend responsibly and sustainably. They are active on the big name free agents. You cannot mitigate bad contracts in MLB.

Your understanding of the economics is wrong


Huge if true....

Revenue to payroll is all there is to look at?


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What else is there?


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What else is there?


I would say, a lot of those revenue may not be baseball related. They may include things like the hotel, stadium operations (they own versus lease), and the rooftops that have expense loads of their own. If those are like revenues with the other teams, then it would be a shame. The other thing is, the Cubs have large debt burden versus say teams that were purchased when values were a lot lower.

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What else is there?


I would say, a lot of those revenue may not be baseball related. They may include things like the hotel, stadium operations (they own versus lease), and the rooftops that have expense loads of their own. If those are like revenues with the other teams, then it would be a shame. The other thing is, the Cubs have large debt burden versus say teams that were purchased when values were a lot lower.
Marquee is a disaster and there's a billion into the ballpark added to the $850M they paid for the team. They aren't Yankees, Red Sox, or Dodgers rich. They probably will be if baseball doesn't die and there's more than like 8 teams left.

TV revenue is in the crapper. ESPN offered MLB less than half of what it is now.


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The Marlins continue to be shameful.

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Impressive 3-3 at LA & SD.

Pivetta is a terrible pitcher. It's hard to believe:

1) The Padres even signed him
2) They lost to Pivetta today. I really thought the Cubs would crush him and win big today.


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denisdman wrote:
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What else is there?


I would say, a lot of those revenue may not be baseball related. They may include things like the hotel, stadium operations (they own versus lease), and the rooftops that have expense loads of their own. If those are like revenues with the other teams, then it would be a shame. The other thing is, the Cubs have large debt burden versus say teams that were purchased when values were a lot lower.


The Cubs don't own those things. The Ricketts' do...kind of.

I'd be real interested to see the books on those rooftop buildings. They bought them at the top of their market and the charm on them has definitely worn off. They are rarely filled and often closed early in the season. The residential component is doing fine as rents continue to rise but the bleachers have to be a money pit.

The hotel can't be all that great, either. That type of business can't make its money with only 81 days a year. Rickettsville bars are surprisingly, a ghost town most of the year, even on weekends. Who would go to the hotel for 6+ months of the year?

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Impressive 3-3 at LA & SD.

Pivetta is a terrible pitcher. It's hard to believe:

1) The Padres even signed him
2) They lost to Pivetta today. I really thought the Cubs would crush him and win big today.


Cubs had a crummy "getaway day" approach, lots of first-pitch swinging even with an umpire that had a tiny strike zone. Pads figured it out and drew a lot of walks.


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We need to create a fantasy waiting room here where Ralphie and shakes can speak of Bedard as the next Crosby or McDavid and Juiced can pimp Matt Shaw as the next Arenado.


Live in reality morons


I want them to sign Tucker. I have no issue with passing on Bregman and going with your top prospect instead. IF you sign Tucker to a long term contract. If you let Tucker walk, then yes it was Rickett's being cheap knowing he was not going to pay Tucker.

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Spoiler alert, they aren't resigning Tucker


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Spoiler alert, they aren't resigning Tucker


Yep.

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What else is there?


I would say, a lot of those revenue may not be baseball related. They may include things like the hotel, stadium operations (they own versus lease), and the rooftops that have expense loads of their own. If those are like revenues with the other teams, then it would be a shame. The other thing is, the Cubs have large debt burden versus say teams that were purchased when values were a lot lower.


The Cubs don't own those things. The Ricketts' do...kind of.

I'd be real interested to see the books on those rooftop buildings. They bought them at the top of their market and the charm on them has definitely worn off. They are rarely filled and often closed early in the season. The residential component is doing fine as rents continue to rise but the bleachers have to be a money pit.

The hotel can't be all that great, either. That type of business can't make its money with only 81 days a year. Rickettsville bars are surprisingly, a ghost town most of the year, even on weekends. Who would go to the hotel for 6+ months of the year?

Add in the disaster that has been Marquee.

Their books would be interesting...I'm sure they're doing ok, but I wouldn't expect them to be i luxury tax territory. They are 11th in MLB payroll which is resepctable. Question is....are they spending wisely? Too many holes on the roster to justify 11th in MLB payroll...they should be better.

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What is this Marquee is a disaster thing??!

Where the hell are u guys getting this??

Cubs fans are still there. Guess what , they still watch the Cubs. So where are they gonna watch it other than on Marquee??

Marquee is doin just fine.


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Ok small sample size, but here is the way I see this Cubs team

Cannot compete with the Dodgers. They will lose one of three or worse every time.

Can split with the rest of the good teams like the Dbacks. Maybe below .500 by a few games.

Gonna pound the weak teams like the A’s. Going to win two of three over the course of the season.

It seems like a recipe for 90 wins.


This is really bearing itself out with more upside than I expected.

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Bullpen is absolute trash because again, your guy, didn't want to spend

About to shit the bed on a 7-1 lead


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Oh my. Bad defense. Bad bullpen. Yikes.

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Ok small sample size, but here is the way I see this Cubs team

Cannot compete with the Dodgers. They will lose one of three or worse every time.

Can split with the rest of the good teams like the Dbacks. Maybe below .500 by a few games.

Gonna pound the weak teams like the A’s. Going to win two of three over the course of the season.

It seems like a recipe for 90 wins.


This is really bearing itself out with more upside than I expected.

This post didn't really age well


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