No more of this constant arguing about last year and how Caleb Williams garbage time performance in a game that went to overtime doesn't count.

Minimum 10 games played. If he plays less than 17, the numbers will be adjusted to a 17 game schedule.

Yards: 4,000
Touchdowns: 27
Wins: 9
Completion Percentage: 64%
TD/INT ratio: 2.5
Rating: 90
QBR: 60
Sacks: 68(for FF only since he didn't think Williams could get better at this)
Sacks: 50(for everyone but FF)
Cubs playoff victories: .5

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Hah I thought that Cubs bet was five. I see it is 0.5. Lol

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Baby steps. It's been a long time since they'd have hit the over.

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Under on the yardage as I think the 1st year under Johnson the offensive identity will revolve heavily on the run.


I’ll go over on the TD’s tho because Caleb is actually really good in the red zone already and adding in the extra TE’s I think he’ll do well there.


Over on both the completion % and rating too as Johnson will design a lot of plays that scheme the 1st read open and Caleb should be better at getting the ball out quicker in his 2nd year and there will also be more PA too


QBR is dumb stat imo so I have no opinion there

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He’ll suck but you won’t admit it.

Actual passing yard lines :

Williams 3550.5
Fields 2550.5

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Don't be afraid. In fact, it would be great if you would provide your own since I assume you think my numbers are way too high of expectations for him.

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So he throws 200 yards in the second half of a game the Bears are down thirty points in and you parade around like it’s the best thing in the world and GENERATIONAL.

This is why I've given you the chance to provide any of your own numbers for tracking this. May I suggest "Passing yards per game not counting games they lose by more than 16 points"?

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So what if they lose by five points because they scored twenty-one unanswered in the fourth quarter against a team’s backups in prevent. All this bullshit, just watch what is literally happening on the field. The guy cannot fucking throw and has no clue what’s happening. Why do you need numbers?

well, this will be a great thread .

Well, that would be pretty dumb by the opposing coach. I also doubt it happens. I don't think it did last year. However, I'll add in a second qualifier, which would be no game counts where they are down by more than 24 points unless they at one point possess the ball only down by 8 or less.

You constantly cherry picked negatives against Williams last year. This is an attempt to avoid you coming up arguments like "lack of touchdowns" and then we he starts to throw touchdowns you switch it to something else.

Why does this make you so mad? If he's as bad as you say then set your own numbers and prove how right you were when he has a QBR of 12 and the Bears lose every game by 35 points.

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if you look at his td to INT from last year you'd think he wasnt terrible. but he was terrible. his accuracy was terrible. another see it to throw it guy but maybe that's a rookie thing.

my #1 takeaway is the organization really fucked up hiring waldron and they fucked up by not even trying to coach caleb. that's why his footwork was shit and his throws inaccurate. let's see what a competent coach can do with him.

i'd bet over 4000 yards.

And your expectations when you clicked on it?

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How does he throw for 200 Yards if he can't throw downfield and hit open receivers? You can't say, "Caleb misses his receivers" and then claim 200 yards doesn't count because it is garbage time.

Does Caleb's ability to hit open receivers change due to the score of the game?

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His accuracy was so horrible even defenders coudn’t intercept him.

His accuracy was 62.5%. The league average in 2024 was 62.4%. Do you Caleb haters just talk out of your ass all day to each other?

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His top three wide receivers were all top ten leaguewide in unmatchable balls in 2024. His arm is trash.

When people widely suggested that Caleb was the "Next Patrick Mahomes", no one knew that they were talking about the Mahomes from this year's Super Bowl.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 378080007/

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His accuracy was 62.5%. The league average in 2024 was 62.4%.

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Do accuracy for balls more than five yards over LOS. I wanna see that number (and I reckon you don’t).

I think it’s worth reminding everyone that twice the Bears were held to three points, at home, against non-playoff teams.

They beat the Packers in a meaningless week eighteen game where the Packers starters, who were all benched for rest, were caught on camera repeatedly shrugging their shoulders and expressing some amount of bewilderment that a shit team like the Bears was treating this pointless game like the Super Bowl.

You can't just start cherry-picking accuracy stats now. How many balls did he throw away because no one was open or the play broke down because of the offensive line. Those all count in the accuracy percentage.

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There are reasons to be concerned. Hopefully he answers most of those concerns like a lot do after their rookie years.

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In order for him to a merely mediocre lower third tier NFL quarterback would require a level of improvement basically unprecedented in league history. He is arguably the worst ever quarterback to ever start all his teams games.

he'll be great as soon as he leaves Chicago