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I would take back Thibs on the Bulls in half a heartbeat!

We'd still have to deal with AK's nincompoopery, but Thibs could right the ship to some degree at least.


3 losing seasons in 13 years as head coach

And zero championships. Thibs problem is similar to Collin’s was…he’s manic to the point of trying too hard to win every game. Sure, his teams win a lot in the regular season, but he beats the shit out of his key players in meaningless games. By the time it actually matters, they are worn down.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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I would take back Thibs on the Bulls in half a heartbeat!

We'd still have to deal with AK's nincompoopery, but Thibs could right the ship to some degree at least.


3 losing seasons in 13 years as head coach

And zero championships. Thibs problem is similar to Collin’s was…he’s manic to the point of trying too hard to win every game. Sure, his teams win a lot in the regular season, but he beats the shit out of his key players in meaningless games. By the time it actually matters, they are worn down.


:lol:

You think the Knicks lost in the playoffs because they were "worn down"? Or the Bulls for that matter? Ridiculous.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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I would take back Thibs on the Bulls in half a heartbeat!

We'd still have to deal with AK's nincompoopery, but Thibs could right the ship to some degree at least.


3 losing seasons in 13 years as head coach

And zero championships. Thibs problem is similar to Collin’s was…he’s manic to the point of trying too hard to win every game. Sure, his teams win a lot in the regular season, but he beats the shit out of his key players in meaningless games. By the time it actually matters, they are worn down.


:lol:

You think the Knicks lost in the playoffs because they were "worn down"? Or the Bulls for that matter? Ridiculous.
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Here is where the Knicks' starting five ranks for minutes per game in the league.*

Mikal Bridges - 37.42 minutes per game (led NBA)
Josh Hart - 37.25 minutes per game (4th in the NBA)
O.G. Anunoby - 37.07 minutes per game (5th in the NBA)
Jalen Brunson - 35.92 minutes per game (13th in the NBA)
Karl-Anthony Towns - 35.07 minutes per game (22nd in the NBA)

Bridges actually talked about the high amount of minutes earlier in the 2024-2025 season, and said that he asked Thibodeau to lower their minutes.


Guess what Thibs response was.

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Guess what Thibs response was.

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Guess what Thibs response was.

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Only in the NBA can there be a coach who tries too hard to win too often and it's a bad thing.

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Only in the NBA can there be a coach who tries too hard to win too often and it's a bad thing.


Hah yeah…that is odd.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
I would take back Thibs on the Bulls in half a heartbeat!

We'd still have to deal with AK's nincompoopery, but Thibs could right the ship to some degree at least.


3 losing seasons in 13 years as head coach

And zero championships. Thibs problem is similar to Collin’s was…he’s manic to the point of trying too hard to win every game. Sure, his teams win a lot in the regular season, but he beats the shit out of his key players in meaningless games. By the time it actually matters, they are worn down.


:lol:

You think the Knicks lost in the playoffs because they were "worn down"? Or the Bulls for that matter? Ridiculous.
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Here is where the Knicks' starting five ranks for minutes per game in the league.*

Mikal Bridges - 37.42 minutes per game (led NBA)
Josh Hart - 37.25 minutes per game (4th in the NBA)
O.G. Anunoby - 37.07 minutes per game (5th in the NBA)
Jalen Brunson - 35.92 minutes per game (13th in the NBA)
Karl-Anthony Towns - 35.07 minutes per game (22nd in the NBA)

Bridges actually talked about the high amount of minutes earlier in the 2024-2025 season, and said that he asked Thibodeau to lower their minutes.


Guess what Thibs response was.


Did you actually watch the playoffs this year?

The Knicks eviscerated a deeper and more talented Celtics team in the playoffs, a team that had beaten them by more than 20 pts per game during the regular season. Does that sound like a team that was worn down to you? Did they tire out against the Pacers or did the defensive liabilities of their two best offensive players finally catch up with them?

Under Thibodeau, the Bulls best chance for an NBA title came in 2011 when they lost to Miami. Whose roster would you say was better? Miami's top 3 players were LeBron, Wade, and Bosh, two of whom are top 50 all-time NBA players. The Bulls top 3 players were Rose, Deng and Noah or Boozer (take your pick). If you think the Bulls lost that series because they were "worn down", you're either insane or completely dishonest.

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Only in the NBA can there be a coach who tries too hard to win too often and it's a bad thing.


Hah yeah…that is odd.

So you are against pitch counts and player rest. Got it.

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Tall Midget wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
I would take back Thibs on the Bulls in half a heartbeat!

We'd still have to deal with AK's nincompoopery, but Thibs could right the ship to some degree at least.


3 losing seasons in 13 years as head coach

And zero championships. Thibs problem is similar to Collin’s was…he’s manic to the point of trying too hard to win every game. Sure, his teams win a lot in the regular season, but he beats the shit out of his key players in meaningless games. By the time it actually matters, they are worn down.


:lol:

You think the Knicks lost in the playoffs because they were "worn down"? Or the Bulls for that matter? Ridiculous.
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Here is where the Knicks' starting five ranks for minutes per game in the league.*

Mikal Bridges - 37.42 minutes per game (led NBA)
Josh Hart - 37.25 minutes per game (4th in the NBA)
O.G. Anunoby - 37.07 minutes per game (5th in the NBA)
Jalen Brunson - 35.92 minutes per game (13th in the NBA)
Karl-Anthony Towns - 35.07 minutes per game (22nd in the NBA)

Bridges actually talked about the high amount of minutes earlier in the 2024-2025 season, and said that he asked Thibodeau to lower their minutes.


Guess what Thibs response was.


Did you actually watch the playoffs this year?

The Knicks eviscerated a deeper and more talented Celtics team in the playoffs, a team that had beaten them by more than 20 pts per game during the regular season. Does that sound like a team that was worn down to you? Did they tire out against the Pacers or did the defensive liabilities of their two best offensive players finally catch up with them?

Under Thibodeau, the Bulls best chance for an NBA title came in 2011 when they lost to Miami. Whose roster would you say was better? Miami's top 3 players were LeBron, Wade, and Bosh, two of whom are top 50 all-time NBA players. The Bulls top 3 players were Rose, Deng and Noah or Boozer (take your pick). If you think the Bulls lost that series because they were "worn down", you're either insane or completely dishonest.

I never said any of that with regard to the Bulls but to say wear and tear doesn’t factor in is ignorant… and you are ignoring a key factor in the Celtics matchup. Also, they choked against Indy, but (apparently) that doesn’t matter. Toiled as an assistant for most of his career, failed miserably in MN despite talent and fired 3x despite all those wins. None of this is on him though. Great coach.

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I never said any of that with regard to the Bulls but to say wear and tear doesn’t factor in is ignorant… and you are ignoring a key factor in the Celtics matchup. Also, they choked against Indy, but that doesn’t matter. Toiled as an assistant for most of his career, failed miserably in MN despite talent and fired 3x despite all those wins. None of this is on him though. Great coach.


You said the problem with Thibs is that his teams are "worn down" when it really matters. So you think if the Bulls had been better rested prior to the Miami series they would have beaten the Heat and gone on to an NBA title? Just how much of a factor was "fatigue" in that series? Your argument is utterly absurd.

The Knicks were up 2 games to 1 against the Celtics and were winning game 4 by 9 points with two minutes remaining when Tatum got injured. Are you saying the Celtics would have come back to win that game even though they were being badly outplayed in the second half, as they had been in the first two games of the series despite the Knicks struggles with "fatigue"? :lol: Again, your position is laughable.

Your points about the Pacers series, his career as an assistant coach (truly bizarre, by the way) and Minnesota have absolutely nothing to do with your original contention that Thibs' teams struggle with fatigue in the playoffs. I'll take your attempt to move the goalposts here as an admission of defeat.

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Maybe it sets up the trade for Durant. Too many miles on him for the Thibs outwork everybody culture.


Smells like Durant for Towns straight up. Booker and KAT are the same age and former UK teammates.

The dream would be to send Booker to the Spurs for the #2 pick. And then trade Durant to the Mavericks for the #1 pick. Merely a video game dream, however.


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I never said any of that with regard to the Bulls but to say wear and tear doesn’t factor in is ignorant… and you are ignoring a key factor in the Celtics matchup. Also, they choked against Indy, but that doesn’t matter. Toiled as an assistant for most of his career, failed miserably in MN despite talent and fired 3x despite all those wins. None of this is on him though. Great coach.


You said the problem with Thibs is that his teams are "worn down" when it really matters. So you think if the Bulls had been better rested prior to the Miami series they would have beaten the Heat and gone on to an NBA title? Just how much of a factor was "fatigue" in that series? Your argument is utterly absurd.

The Knicks were up 2 games to 1 against the Celtics and were winning game 4 by 9 points with two minutes remaining when Tatum got injured. Are you saying the Celtics would have come back to win that game even though they were being badly outplayed in the second half, as they had been in the first two games of the series despite the Knicks struggles with "fatigue"? :lol: Again, your position is laughable.

Your points about the Pacers series, his career as an assistant coach (truly bizarre, by the way) and Minnesota have absolutely nothing to do with your original contention that Thibs' teams struggle with fatigue in the playoffs. I'll take your attempt to move the goalposts here as an admission of defeat.


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I got OKC in a gentleman’s sweep.

Tomorrow night feels like a blowout.

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OKC is going to roll. The Pacers style of play is not going to give them any trouble like it did for the Knicks.

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OKC is going to roll. The Pacers style of play is not going to give them any trouble like it did for the Knicks.

Funny thing is I like OKC. I didn't root for them against Denver, Minnesota and now Indy. They're just always prohibitively favored.

Yeah, OKC will run with Indy. They don't give a fuck.


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I actively dislike OKC but they seem unbeatable.

I don’t find a single thing enjoyable about the way they play basketball, save for the fact they hustle on defense.

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I actively dislike OKC but they seem unbeatable.

I don’t find a single thing enjoyable about the way they play basketball, save for the fact they hustle on defense.

Get chippy. If you try to play straight up basketball, at best it's a gentlemens sweep. Seriously, If Joker comes down on Caruso's bald ugly head like a sledgehammer, that jungle gym garbage ends.


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I got OKC in a gentleman’s sweep.

Tomorrow night feels like a blowout.


this feels right, but i do think the Pacers can win at least 2 .


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I actively dislike OKC but they seem unbeatable.

I don’t find a single thing enjoyable about the way they play basketball, save for the fact they hustle on defense.


you dont enjoy any of it... except their defensive intensity... which is on display for 50% of the game.


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I never said any of that with regard to the Bulls but to say wear and tear doesn’t factor in is ignorant… and you are ignoring a key factor in the Celtics matchup. Also, they choked against Indy, but that doesn’t matter. Toiled as an assistant for most of his career, failed miserably in MN despite talent and fired 3x despite all those wins. None of this is on him though. Great coach.


You said the problem with Thibs is that his teams are "worn down" when it really matters. So you think if the Bulls had been better rested prior to the Miami series they would have beaten the Heat and gone on to an NBA title? Just how much of a factor was "fatigue" in that series? Your argument is utterly absurd.

The Knicks were up 2 games to 1 against the Celtics and were winning game 4 by 9 points with two minutes remaining when Tatum got injured. Are you saying the Celtics would have come back to win that game even though they were being badly outplayed in the second half, as they had been in the first two games of the series despite the Knicks struggles with "fatigue"? :lol: Again, your position is laughable.

Your points about the Pacers series, his career as an assistant coach (truly bizarre, by the way) and Minnesota have absolutely nothing to do with your original contention that Thibs' teams struggle with fatigue in the playoffs. I'll take your attempt to move the goalposts here as an admission of defeat.


he plays his starters too much in regular season and he's never made a finals. there is no correlation?

so he's just a great coach who's never had a roster good enough to win a title? why hasnt he been hired to a team that has a roster that can win a title then? he's been around forever now someone should be able to recognize he's an elite coach that can win with a title ready roster.

denver would be a great test thibs test case next year. they should pounce even though they hired that goofy looking guy who's coached 20 games before thibs got fired.


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I got OKC in a gentleman’s sweep.

Tomorrow night feels like a blowout.


this feels right, but i do think the Pacers can win at least 2 .



easily. This is almost an even matchup with the Thunder a bit better and havin' home court.


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9.5 is a huge spread. Indy should cover that tonite.

Even though they're losin' by about that much right now.


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The OKC defense is a nightmare. 14 turnovers and it’s not even half.

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Yeah the OKC defense is just smothering.

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