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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:15 am 
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After the Bears victory I threw on the radio to check out the comments being made by those who were hosting post game shows. By the time I was done listening-12:30am-I was astounded by the stupidity put out there by not only the callers (that happens on every show at every time) but by the hosts themselves.

Case in point #1--Amy Lawrence did the show after Chet Coppock (she was doing the national show) and I was amazed by some of the comments she had about the game. The one that stood out the most was how following the Packers kick off return and penalty on Adrian Peterson late in the ball game the Packers were already set up in field goal range. The kick would have been over 50 yards (I think it would have been 52 yards) which, last I checked, is not a sure thing especially in the type of weather conditions they played in. Plus, Crosby missed a field goal rather badly in the third quarter from closer range.

Case #2--I called Coppock's post game show to complain about the offensive play calling by Ron Turner. I wondered why it tood Turner three quarters to figure out that Matt Forte's effectiveness would come from getting him to the outside instead of constant runs up the middle that averaged just over 1 yard a carry. I know the tying TD came with him on a dive play, but considering how things have gone this season with straight dive plays, I found myself yelling at the tv when I saw them line up in an "I" formation. Where's the creativity and imagination in play calling when down on the goal line. The Bears got lucky on the play. Coppock talked about the success of the tight ends in the game to which I responded, then why not use them more often. Olson's TD came on a third down call after two failed dive attempts by Forte. Why not spread Olson out on first down and give the defense something else to think about.

Case #3--I was most put off by the dismissive attitude shown by Matt Abattacola toward a caller who questioned him about the Bears taking that punt into the end zone in the first half for a touchback. In real time, everyone I was with thought the ball hit the return man and the special teams acted like you would think they would have. When the caller defended the Bears special teams play, Matt blew it off by saying, "but the ball didn't hit him." Sure it didn't, but it took several REPLAYS for everyone to see and even then it was a close call. Matt's "hindsight" call of the play holds no water because while its happening the players are thinking it may have touched him. No one could say for sure that as the play happened the ball didn't touch him. The players cannot be faulted for how they reacted.

I'm just amazed by the "we know more than you do" attitude of some of the hosts. Sometimes there are dumb callers who are let on the air and by doing so the host can come off as more of an expert. Problem is they are no more of an expert than you or I who watch games and probably have as much if not more playing experience than some of the hosts. Don't get me wrong...having played the game doesn't make you any better than anyone else. But, for those who hold the position of host, sometimes they act as if their word is gospel and they are more of an authority on the subject than anyone else. Nothing bothers me more than to hear someone who brings up a valid point, but is immediately shot down or dismissed by the host because their opinion doesn't match their line of thinking. I've noticed this to be the case more so on the Score than on ESPN 1000.

In Laurence's case I think she just didn't do her homework on the game. I've heard her before and can't figure out how she got a gig with the network. Coppock let me voice my opinion before giving his reaction. He didn't address my point, but I got to get my point in. Abbatacola just dismissed the caller regarding the punt and gave his stance as that of being how it should be. I thought he talked down to the caller and gave the bogus response of "we'll agree to disagree".

Where are the good discussions and what is it with some hosts that they have the insight and knowledge that places them above all else?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:27 am 
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chip hit the nail right on the head. alot of hosts have the "bernstein problem" of self-importance.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:29 pm 
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Very simple for me.

Hosting a show does not make one an expert. I think some out there believe that being on-air somehow makes them smarter than they really are.


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chip egan wrote:
Case #3--I was most put off by the dismissive attitude shown by Matt Abattacola toward a caller who questioned him about the Bears taking that punt into the end zone in the first half for a touchback. In real time, everyone I was with thought the ball hit the return man and the special teams acted like you would think they would have. When the caller defended the Bears special teams play, Matt blew it off by saying, "but the ball didn't hit him." Sure it didn't, but it took several REPLAYS for everyone to see and even then it was a close call. Matt's "hindsight" call of the play holds no water because while its happening the players are thinking it may have touched him. No one could say for sure that as the play happened the ball didn't touch him. The players cannot be faulted for how they reacted.

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I think drinky was a little exasperated after hearing some caller say that Rashied Davis is an excellent receiver. If you hear enough stupidity it starts to color your perspective of others.

I could tell it frustrated him. I was going to call up with some topic that would have put him over the top.

He had every reason to feel as he did. There was much stupidity floating through the air last night.

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I've heard Amy Lawrence doing national ESPN Radio "SportsCenter" updates from time to time, and based on the tone of her voice, she sounds a little over the top. Amy is also one of the rotating hosts of an hourlong football show nationally called "Football Tonight", which airs at 6 & 10p weeknights on many ESPN Radio stations. Because of local programming & Bulls' basketball at night, "Football Tonight" doesn't always air on ESPN 1000, so your best bet to listen would be on ESPNradio.com. I think Amy was filling in for Jason Smith's "All Night" show when you tuned in after 12:30a (CT), and keep in mind that with the holidays, backups are going to fill in the rest of this week and next week for sure.


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I think drinky was a little exasperated after hearing some caller say that Rashied Davis is an excellent receiver. If you hear enough stupidity it starts to color your perspective of others.

I could tell it frustrated him. I was going to call up with some topic that would have put him over the top.

He had every reason to feel as he did. There was much stupidity floating through the air last night.


If you're a sports talk radio host and you're going to assume all your callers and listeners--the people who basically make it possible for you to have said job--are stupid before they even open their mouths, then you're in the wrong line of work.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 1:06 am 
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I heard Matt's exchange - and turned the show off as he railed against the stupidity of the Bears player. More pontificating by a host who won't at least let the callers jump and debate - it's all 20-20 hindsight - no one is right, no one is wrong - so let a fun debate begin.

Guys like matt should feel lucky they are there and simply be themselves. Being a flatulant butthead works for Bernstien, being old cranky cracker works for terry - find your own place and go from there.


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Someone else brought it up once before, that Matt sounds more agitated than he really is because he speaks kind of hurriedly sometimes. In his defense, he's working way late taking calls from complete idiots. How do you do a good show when you lead off with that "ghosts of Walter Payton" crap? He was doomed out of the gate. On the other hand, as Bernsie said, it still beats having a real job. So I don't know what to make of it. It's hard to say "just don't listen," because the first thing we want to do after a down-to-the-wire Bears win is put on the Score and soak up more Bears content for the night. That's how I got into listening to the station: the Bears beat the Cardinals in 2006 and I was on some strange Bears high the likes of which I'd never felt before, and I was hooked. I guess you should just adjust your hopes from "break down the game" to "mock the drunks," and wait for Doug and OB the next morning.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:15 pm 
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Someone else brought it up once before, that Matt sounds more agitated than he really is because he speaks kind of hurriedly sometimes. In his defense, he's working way late taking calls from complete idiots. How do you do a good show when you lead off with that "ghosts of Walter Payton" crap? He was doomed out of the gate. On the other hand, as Bernsie said, it still beats having a real job. So I don't know what to make of it. It's hard to say "just don't listen," because the first thing we want to do after a down-to-the-wire Bears win is put on the Score and soak up more Bears content for the night. That's how I got into listening to the station: the Bears beat the Cardinals in 2006 and I was on some strange Bears high the likes of which I'd never felt before, and I was hooked. I guess you should just adjust your hopes from "break down the game" to "mock the drunks," and wait for Doug and OB the next morning.
I too can't wait to put on the score after a bears game ,the radio gets put on during the 2 min. warning.I just wish the management would put a little more effort into putting on Quality subs when Doug and O.B are out.The dirty little secret of mine is I love the calls after an undeserved loss.


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the reality is that dan and terry are smarter than nearly all of those who wish to have pain inflicted upon them. callers know they won't be coddled on wscr like those 3 fat guys on am1000. it's a choice, don't be surprised. most of the callers are stupid, anyway.


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