They say they are/want to be great but the defensive philosophy as I understand it is - don't give up big plays, yards don't matter, if you make the offense work long enough they will make a mistake and turn the ball over.

He went 0-16, according to Parcells you are what your record is. Furthermore he is 10-38 overall, including 1-23 to end his tenure. He is without a doubt a terrible coach.

I don't think that is how we perceive it. I think that is what it is - by their own admission.

And I think we rely on it more than 80% of the NFL because Lovie puts a greater emphasis on turnovers and defensive scoring than everybody else. I'm not saying other teams don't try for turnovers. I'm saying other teams aren't counting on them as much as Lovie.

They've equipped themselves with people that cannot execute what they want to do very well, either because they are old or bad or Babitch isn't calling the right D at the right time. And I don't agree with what they are trying to do in the first place. But, they're still out there trying to do it.

However, because they aren't executing, they are attempting to blitz to compensate for their inability to get a frontline push - which is ineffective because that's isn't what Urlacher and Briggs are good at because they are there to do something else. So, in summary, they suck.

And even if they could do what they want, they still wouldn't beat great, playoff teams because those teams would pick them apart as they did in 2006.

This season was a complete failure! The entire staff should be fired and salaries should be cut for all offensive and defensive starters. Former bears should be brought in to coach this team back to greatness. If Ditka won't come back, then I think Doug Buffone and Ed O'Bradovich are my two choices to lead this team back to the super bowl. They have the fire and the passion and won't allow these bums to nap like they have under Lovie. All indoor practices should also be eliminated. These guys need to toughen up and play old school, bear weather football. These sally's have it too good with their million dollar deals and heated practice domes. This team could have won 5 super bowls by now if Lovie wasn't here.

It is time for Caleb Hanie to get his shot. The guy proved in the preseason that he will be an elite quarterback for many years to come. Lovie and his lackies were just too dumb to see it. We need to see some direct snaps to Devin Hester also. The guy can run and create plays. It's in his blood.

Darkside it's hard for me to understand how you view this season as a disappointment. I haven't had a chance to look at your predictions for the season but I don't recall you being one of the guys that thought they would win 10+ games. The way I see it is Lovie has had one disappointing season since he has been here. Also he hasn't had an NFL offense the entire time he has been here. We all saw how great an explosive offense can make Lovie's defense look at the start of the 2006 season. That's been missing since then. A good offense can make a good defense appear great.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Nas, finishing the season in 2nd place to the Vikings (whom we should have beaten both times we played them) is disappointing regardless of whatever I may have predicted. I don't even understand how a prediction of a poor season is even relevant in this discussion. did they beat my expectations? Yup. Were they STILL disappointing? YUP.
Hasn't had an NFL offense? That's terrible. I don't see how he didn't have an NFL offense any year he was here.

Which year are you referring to as the disappointing one?