Reports Captain Kirk will get traded for a big man!!!!!! Do you trust Pax getting the RIGHT guy????? The last big man he got was Ben Wallace and how did that work out????? Let's call this a rebuilding year and get rid of some other crap on this team!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

If they trade Kirk, all they will get is a servicable big man, which would help some as a rotation player, but it's not going to change this team. No team is going to trade a difference maker for Hinrich, who doesn't have a position in the backcourt that he clearly is.

If they move Kirk, they should move him for somebody who's contract expires after next year. That way they would have two big contracts coming off the books (Hughes being the other one). While their at it, move Gooden's expiring deal for a 2010 contract. That would give them enough room to sign two top free agents to play with Rose. Pipe Dream? You bet. But they aren't competing with what they have now.

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"Tubby? Oh yes, Tubby."

Who is "reporting" this?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Good, I hope it happens. Something has got to change with this team and quickly.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Hinrich isn't talented, serviceable, special, paid commensurate with his abilities nor particularly useful. He's too slow for point guard, too short/poor shoot-y for off guard. He makes poor and plodding decisions, he doesn't have anything that passes for quick feet or basketball intelligence. He doesn't even seem to have the leadership(future coaching) abilities that a slow, plodding doormat of a player that is a fan favorite is normally credited with.

A bag of balls or just an expiring contract in return...please, quickly?

And Pax being fired/retired before the next round of personnel would help as well.

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

100% backed. These are the kind of moves this team needs to get stronger over the next few seasons.

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Do you read anything ,but this fuckin' board????

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

If there is one thing I have learned in my time on this board it is that you are a moron and an asswipe. Not just any moron and asswipe mind you, but a moron and asswipe that most of the time is clueless about which he is speaking. Thus, you are a clueless moron and asswipe.

So I considered the source of the thread and asked an appropriate question.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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You bring nothing at all!!!! Keep calling me a moron and asswipe that proves your point! do it again ............LOSER

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

You just did, thanks.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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What a jag!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Nas, Hinrich isn't terrible. But this team has enough 4th bananas. They aren't competing for a championship any time soon with the guys on this roster. They need to make wholesale changes and get some guys that can be first or second banana on a contender. The most likely way to make that happen is through free agency after 2010. So, they can look to acquire players with deals that acquire then, OR they can look to fleece the teams that have stars that are looking to clear cap space. Most of the teams with STARS are contenders now and not willing to deal, so that pretty much just leaves free agency as the best option.

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"Tubby? Oh yes, Tubby."

The only person who should think along those lines is Pax, and finally it seems that most Bulls fans are coming to the realization that Pax is a hack. I agree with you saying that trading Hinrich for garbage down low is a bad move. The Bulls should try and package guys like, Hinrich, Deng, Gordon and Tyrus for one big name player plus some filler for cap purposes. I'm sure that's a little to Sam Smithy. But I don't know of any big names being shopped, I certainly don't mean Redd or Marion and the Nuggets are playing so well that Mello probably is off the block. Does Bosh really have any desire to stay in Toronto? Offering them a nice package of players before he leaves for nothing would be a smart move.

Paxson judge of talent isn't very good.......let's see Garnett or Gasol or Wallace & Thomas. Today I believe is the 1st day you can sign someone to a 10 day contract so do it with Gooden and Dung dinged up!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Doesn't matter what the Bulls do as long as Paxson is the GM as he has shown he has next to no basketball IQ.

A sign and trade can be done with a second round pick. i think that's all that the Magic had to give up for Rashard Lewis...aside from that albatross of a contract.



I don't see the logic here. A few things: Hinrich was a base year compensation guy last year, making his contract extremely hard to trade (I think). Also, he was coming off a very good season, so there was reason to believe that he would maintain the same level of play, or maybe even improve. He just got bad. Regardless, the "core" has changed from Nocioni, Deng, Hinrich, and Gordon to ROSE. Just because Pax was wrong in the past doesn't mean he has to stay the course. Whether or not he should be the one running the show is another matter.

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"Tubby? Oh yes, Tubby."

I have very little confidence in Paxsons ability to judge big man talent

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

We can't just give up the core of last year's team that had a .402 winning %