It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Kelly Wunsch said that the Chicago White Sox never planned to challenge Major League Baseball's steroid testing rules, but they did so last March. As players circulated a drug test acceptance form, Wunsch said, a few wondered what would happen if they refused to be tested. What would happen, the White Sox players learned, is that they could seriously influence the future of testing.

When 16 of the 37 players on the roster did not want to be tested initially, they found out that a refusal would count as a positive and would increase the chances that major leaguers would surpass the 5 percent threshold to activate stricter testing in 2004. Some had the foresight to realize they could have an impact on forcing mandatory tests by declining to be tested this year.

After Wunsch, the White Sox player representative, discussed this with the union, Gene Orza, the union's associate general counsel, told him that each refusal would be reviewed and that almost no reasons for bypassing the test would be permitted. The holdouts, some of whom Sandy Alomar Jr. said were pushed into their decisions by veteran players, nonetheless sent a message about their desire for testing to ensure that everyone would be on an even playing field in the future. Wunsch said the 16 players eventually gave their urine samples.

''It was never meant to be a political statement or something to get media attention,'' Wunsch said last week in a telephone interview. ''If somebody respects us for doing that, that's fine. I don't think that we deserve any more respect than anybody who doesn't want cheating in the game.''

This thread is probably going to make Tim Raines want to do cocaine again.

A sox player? I doubt it. That franchise above all others is a clean as there is.

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Belle huh?

caught with the cork

got away with the juice

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He looks like he's seeing the ball good and he never gets cheated on his swing. I admit to being concerned that maybe he would falter a little but he looks good right now. Especially in the dome in Tampa so I cant wait for it to warm up in Chicago.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Not with the Sox, but rather by the Sox.

I suppose you have some proof?

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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

The 2003 White Sox almost forced the league's hand in publicizing the results of anonymous steroid testing. It's a very cool story.



full story here: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/23/sport ... sec=health

This thread is probably going to make Tim Raines want to do cocaine again.

Well, did Albert Belle show up to camp one year incredibly bigger than he was the year before like Sosa did?
Did Albert Belle go from hitting a few (relatively speaking) homeruns each year to bashing 60+ in just one year?
Was Albert Belle served a subpeona to testify before congress on steriod use?

No.

Replace Belle's name with Sammy Sosa and the answer to all questions becomes a resoundning yes.

Now, I don't have proof for Sosa either, but the evidence for him is far more convincing and overwhelming than anything against Belle.

i have as much proof as anyone has on sosa...think he didnt take em?

So logically, you could think that I take steroids because you have as much proof on that as anyone has on sosa?

so I guess Schilling is on the juice?

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

I have MANY years of experience in trying to appreciate steaming piles of dogshit.

Anyone that actually thinks Belle is clean is fooling themselves. Sosa and Belle were both on the juice, along with many many others.

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Jerkiness aside, there is much more evidence Sosa was than Belle.

Dont worry Frank...it will all come out....Canceco just hasnt gotten to the al central yet...he's on the way.


Why do you think he played for every team he possibly could...it was his "collecting evidence tour"

For a long time, I've been suspicious of Bo Jackson.

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All 3 teams of Belle's career huh?