It was hard to tell because they kept doing the replay in slow motion, and it didn't look nearly as bad in slow motion.

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yeah that's an asshole thing to do. especially how the bulls have played the celtics...besides game 3, the celtics should have nothing but respect for the bulls.

i do not agree with the flagrant foul stuff, though.

and miller's second free throw was really bad.

I think you should go watch it again. Is he allowed to take a swipe at the persons head if he clearly cannot get anywhere near the ball?
I really don't think I am being a homer here...

Vinny Del Negro claims that Rondo hit Miller in the head, but thought Brad was well enough to attempt the two free throws after he got hit near the basket...

like i said, it probably didnt effect the outcome.
just got to me that the commentator (fudging on his name) was thinking vinny was nuts for claiming it could be a flagrant

Probably a good point. The Bulls had a lot of calls go there way in the game, though.

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the bulls dont deserve to win this series. 2 blown leads late in the game in boston. should have this series within reach if not done but instead go down 3-2

I think late in the game, the Celtics finally figured out how to defend him on those drives. They did a good job collapsing, and a couple times in OT, Rose tried to drive and ended up losing the ball (once they called a foul though).

I noticed Rose not using his screens when they were there. I think the Bulls have been terrible at pick-and-roll for several years now. Other teams use it against them and the defender gets blown off the ball. When the Bulls try it, the other team runs around the screen no problem. It's supposed to be one of the most basic plays in basketball and they suck at it!

I'll say it, Rose played like shit tonight, especially down the stretch. A key turnover was that play where he tried to throw a lob to Noah and it sailed way out of bounds. It was unnecessary and came at a crucial time. Then he proceeded to dribble the ball out of bounds and can't keep his man in front of him to save his life. Can't blow a double digit lead like that and expect to win the game.

I'm going to take it easy on Brad Miller being the goat of this game, because for one thing, the game shouldn't of come down to that in the first place and he got flagrant fouled, I don't care what anyone says. It was a shot to the head clear as fucking day and the refs didn't have the balls to call it. Now I will say, Del Negro used Miller WAY too much in the 4th quarter. Thomas was having a pretty solid game and I felt he warranted some play down the stretch and besides the three and pretty pass to Noah, Miller did nothing but commit turnovers and miss bad shots. Ball was dropped there, but everyone outside of Gordon(anyone that got minutes in the fourth) pretty much wet the bed.

This is a great series though, so at least we're being entertained. Sad thing is, the series should have ended tonight with the Bulls winning 4 to 1, but this next game could very well be the end of it for the Bulls.

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Even though he's the NBA Rookie of the Year, Derrick Rose has been schooled in his first ever playoff series by Rajon Rondo, who has been the MVP and a real pain in the ass for the Bulls to contain. Rondo's not as well known as other point guards, but the Celtics have quite a player on their hands...

This loss should not fall on Brad Miller. That was a great play set up by Vinny and the Celtics were completely fooled. I don't think you can call a flagrant foul in that situation though. It's the playoffs, the refs should not be deciding the outcome of the game. Would you guys feel the same way if we were on the other side of the coin? With that being said, that was an awful intentional miss. You've got to shoot the rainbow and let there be a very high rebound on a shot like that. Throwing the line drive hoping to hit the rim rarely works.

This game was lost in the 4th quarter when the Bulls squandered a 11 point lead. This was their time to put themselves in the drivers seat in the series and they pissed it away (JamesOn style). Rose should have been attacking the basket and getting to the line down the stretch.

I think Noah played another solid game. He used to be the guy I would complain about the most on this team, but he has stepped up pretty well in the last month and is becoming one of my "guys".

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rondo has looked like the best point guard in the nba this series. he is basically averaging a triple double and is creating havoc on the defensive side of the ball.

i will say that the nba has the worst officiating in sports. hands down. they are idiots

I agree totally with you a rarity. Isn't Miller the only player that can be called for 3 seconds on a drive to the hoop.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

It's safe to say that Joakim has gotten under the Celtics' skin...While stopping short of comparing him to another former Bull, Dennis Rodman, Celtics' head coach Glenn "Doc" Rivers actually praised the second year big man who had 17 rebounds to go along with 11 points last night in Game 5. Joakim has come a long way, and I think has really stepped up his own game since they traded Ben Wallace to Cleveland last year at the trade deadline.

I'm convinced that one of two things has happened:

1) Miller has pictures of Vinny fucking a barnyard animal
2) Thomas killed Vinny's dog

That's the only possible explanation for Miller continuously getting minutes when the Bulls desperately need defense. Thomas drives you crazy, but the guy is an elite shot blocker.

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Has anyone asked Vinny why he didn't do something to get the ball out of Pierce's hands on the last shot or two? Everyone watching knew what Pierce was going to do and where his comfort zone is.

Vinny and his staff seem to be pretty decent offensive coaches, but not one of them gives any sign of being able to coach defense. Doc Rivers is also an awful coach, although evidently he's slightly better than Vinny.

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Vinny could have won a ring with the team Boston had on the floor last year.

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On offense, he's just doing what he is being coached to do. This series turned into the Ben Gordon show. Unfortunately, Ben Gordon is good enough to get you close but ultimately get you beat. He's the reason the Bulls are in this series and he is the reason the Bulls won't win this series.

Vinny needs to turn the reigns over to Rose instead of Gordon and I think it's officially time for Gordon to move on so that happens next year.

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Here's a stat that I saw on the TNT Sports' broadcast of last night's game...When the Celtics shot over 46% from the field, they won. They shot about 48% in Game 2, 47% in that Game 3 blowout, and last night, the Celts shot nearly 49% from the field, all Boston victories. Something to keep an eye tomorrow night as TNT & Comcast SportsNet bring us Game 6, along with ESPN 1000 & the Chicago Bulls Radio Network come 6p.

Good observation. It also points out that Paxson was pretty dumb not to have gotten rid of Gordon (and any of the other veterans) prior to the start of the season. The Bulls would have finished with a worse record, but Rose's development would have been accelerated and the team would have a lottery pick for the coming draft. Now the Bulls will likely have to take a step backwards next year so they can become good in succeeding seasons.

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Your a little twisted in your logic. Rondo is deciding the outcome by commiting the flagrant foul. On Thursday,DelNegro should send an instant message by starting Gray & Linton Johnson. They will be there to slap Rondo into the first row and by starting them (if only for 2-3 minutes),that would be obvious!!

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The ONLY way you see Aaron Gray, Linton Johnson and/or Lindsey Hunter happens if the Bulls are winning big or losing so bad, VDN ends up waving the white flag in surrender...

I don't really find my logic very twisted. I think everyone can agree that in the playoffs the game gets much more physical. You will see a higher number of hard fouls. That's what the postseason is all about. Would I have liked to see a flagrant foul called on the play? Absolutely, I want the Bulls to win. But objectively looking at the situation I don't think a flagrant foul should be called on a play like that.

And I agree that the Bulls need to make a statement in the next game. You can't let Boston push you around. Send in The White Panther!

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Rose pretty much cost the Bulls the game with his sloppy play in the 4th. The Bulls almost always have two guys on the court who you don't want touching the ball so the last thing you want is your PG out of control. On the last play in regulation I'm sure Vinny wanted to run Rose Iso and let him penetrate and try and kick out to Ben coming off a double screen. But no way do you want him touching the ball and fucking things up like Salmons did in Miami. Vinny has taken Rose out early in games a couple times this series but that doesn't get the point across and Vinny is to incompetent to realize that. Vinny will be back next year and continue to stunt Roses development.

I didn't think the Rondo play was flagrant,(Dwight Howard should get a one game suspension for that elbow.) And this has nothing to do with that, but he needs to get slammed to the ground. That little shit is grabbing rebounds, penetrating, blowing by defenders, getting lay-ups, he's the smallest guy on the court and he's dominating the paint. The Bulls look soft.

As for saying the Bulls should have won this series, you can make the argument that the Celtics should have swept the Bulls. If PP hits the free throw in Game 1, they win 2 and 3 and they basically handed Game 4 to the Bulls like the Bulls handed them last nights game.

Like I said in another thread, the Bulls lost because of Kirk Hinrich's airballed fast break layup on in the first quarter.

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Rose still has a long way to go in some areas, one is D. But I cant really get on him that much. He has out surpassed everything I thought he could be in his first year.

And that gets to my other point. I don't think Rose has played terribly. I think he has done everything needed of him. Yes, the two turnovers were bad, but the Bulls were clearly forcing everything at that point, it was contagious.

People also need to stop hugging Rondo's nuts. The Bulls collectively, cannot defend for shit. A quick player like Rondo simply carves a flat footed team up. He has been impressive against the Bulls...against the Bulls...

Rose arguably put up better numbers this year during the season, his rookie year.

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As much as we can bitch & moan about Brad Miller getting a hard foul by Rajon Rondo near the end of overtime, and all the confusion that followed right afterwards, the Bulls should've gone for the jugular in regulation after building an 11 point lead. The Bulls also got very sloppy with the basketball, plus it seemed to be one shot & out while the likes of Rondo & Paul Pierce stepped up their games after Ray Allen fouled out with about 5:20 left. It never should've come down to that hard foul.