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 Post subject: Cubs / Marlins
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:18 pm 
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Two walks in the 8th. Nobody out in a three run game.


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Comcast just had side by side of Marmol showing his arm delivery much lower this year.


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Comcast just had side by side of Marmol showing his arm delivery much lower this year.

He still managed to strike out the side (after two walks).

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Denise Richards is an idiot but she's still REALLY hot.


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len was running out of shit to talk to her about, and that inning kept going and going and going. when the marlins made that pitching change, he was running on empty with her, talking about how all the camera men wanted to bang her and were fighting to get in the booth. when the commercial break came up with 1 out in the inning, he was like "yeah, anyway, you can go back to your seat now, its been great!".


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I don't get men who find the living mattress hot. Most women who men find really hot I can see it but the woman while hardly ugly is hardly hot.


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wtf zambrano... :evil:


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:shock: :shock: :shock: derrek lee?!?!

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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He has had 2 bombs the last 2 games, nice to see. Soto is starting to look much better at the plate as well.

I love Z's thought of wanting to get on base and help the team, but you just cannot be doing that when you are the ace of the staff.

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He has had 2 bombs the last 2 games, nice to see. Soto is starting to look much better at the plate as well.

I love Z's thought of wanting to get on base and help the team, but you just cannot be doing that when you are the ace of the staff.

You must have been one hell of a competitor back in the day!

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go to bed, old man.

good win today and good series win. i'm just hoping z isn't that hurt.


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Lou said Z's next start might not happen and theyre going to see if he needs to go on the DL


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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Sounds like a DL trip is gonna happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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I find it ironic that at Saturday's post game press conference, someone asked Lou about pinch hitting Zambrano in a game that was all but decided. Lou got somewhat defensive.

Of course, the next day Zambrano hurts his hamstring.

Now in a tie game there was nothing wrong with what Carlos or Lou did. But this is why YOU DO NOT use Zambrano as a pinch hitter in a game when you are up 5 or some runs. If you want to burn someone, use Marshall, not the ace of your staff.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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Zambrano is paid to get hitters out not to leg out bunts. Take your 3 hacks and sit your dumb ass on the bench and get ready to pitch the next inning. He needs to focus more on pitching and Lou pinch hitting him isn't helping the situation. Hopefully now that Ramirez is back and Lou has a full bench he won't be forced to do that anymore.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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Hopefully now that Ramirez is back and Lou has a full bench he won't be forced to do that anymore.

Speaking of a full bench, a somewhat related note...


The White Sox signed Ward to a minor league contract, the Chicago Tribune reports.
Spin: He reported to Triple-A Charlotte, where he homered in his first game. He will be up in Chicago when outfield/corner infield injuries demand.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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Interesting comments about Z and how he should or should not play the game. I know he gets paid to pitch and frankly that is what we all want from him...but in the National League, the pitcher still bats and with that comes more opportunity for injury. I was at the game yesterday, and his bunt, along with Theriot's changed the whole game. I thought that was great to see aside from the injury. In 1985 Sutcliff went down with a hamstring injury running to first as well. It happens in the NL because pitchers actually play the game whereas in the AL they have some goofy rule where a 10th player gets to go up and bat for the pitcher. Do you want the DH in the NL?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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Do you want the DH in the NL?

No. Having the DH takes a great deal of strategy out of the game. Managers actually have to think when they should go to the bullpen and who's due up next inning and so on...Being on the bench on an AL team means almost nothing. It also gives large contracts to one dimensional players who otherwise would be large gaping holes if they had to step on to the field. I am not an AL fan, but can any of the sox fans here explain how the DH adds anything to the game?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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I lean toward the no DH side as well. However, when these injuries do happen....and when the Cubs play in the AL parks during inter-league, I sort of like it. I guess I wish it was one way or the other for both leagues.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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i hate the dh. the pitcher should bat just like everyone else. i understand how much money is in the game and how much is on the line with these pitchers but i dont care. the dh makes the game dull. theres so little strategy involved. no pinch hitting, no double switches, no strategy about when to leave a pitcher in or take him out based on where hes coming up in the order. injuries happen. oh well


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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The DH adds offense, which is (apparently) what most of the fans want to see. It also allows great hitters (i.e. David Ortiz, Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, Edgar Martinez) to extend thier careers and put on a show for the fans. I see both sides of the coin.


For kicks, during interleague play one year, they should use the DH at NL parks, and have the pitchers hit at the AL parks. I think that would be a neat little change, and it would give fans in cities like Minneapolis, St Louis, Cleveland, Denver, etc a chance to see a player hit that normally wouldn't get the chance to hit in that particular ballpark.

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I hate the DH. But at the very least it should be the same in both leagues, either both use the DH or neither use it.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs / Marlins
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RFDC wrote:
I hate the DH. But at the very least it should be the same in both leagues, either both use the DH or neither use it.

Uniformity is most important...but I like the DH

The cubs have had several DHs for a long time

Soriano
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the dh sucks. if i were an nl pitcher, i would work my ass of to learn how to swing the bat a little. if baffles me to see pitchers go out there and flail and have an average of .100. pitchers can very often really help themselves, and some appear like they have never swung a bat before in their lives. why cant a big league pitcher during the off season dedicate some time each day to learning how to competently swing a bat? at least to the point where you can lay one down when needed and bat near .200.

i dont mind pitchers hitting, but you do have to use a little common sense about what they should and should not be doing up there. stealing bases? going in hard to 2nd to break up a DP? bunting for a hit? first to third on a hard single? scoring from first on a double? i dont know, i guess it depends on the player. as a manager, coach or a player, id be very careful in all of these situations. first and foremost, they are pitchers.


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RFDC wrote:
I hate the DH. But at the very least it should be the same in both leagues, either both use the DH or neither use it.

Uniformity is most important...but I like the DH

The cubs have had several DHs for a long time

Soriano
Sosa
Ward
Hoffpauir
Bradley


+1 on ALL of them.


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To add to my previous post, there is nothing better than a 15+ inning NL game. When teams start running out of guys on the bench, and the pen, strategy and gut calls take over the game. A manager has to make the tough call of burning his last pinch hitter or sending up the relief pitcher to the plate. It makes for very interesting baseball.

In the AL you just keep trotting out the same guys and hope one of them hits a bomb to end it. Pitchers will continue pitching until they are spent and then you just move on to the next arm in the pen.

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To add to my previous post, there is nothing better than a 15+ inning NL game. When teams start running out of guys on the bench, and the pen, strategy and gut calls take over the game. A manager has to make the tough call of burning his last pinch hitter or sending up the relief pitcher to the plate. It makes for very interesting baseball.

In the AL you just keep trotting out the same guys and hope one of them hits a bomb to end it. Pitchers will continue pitching until they are spent and then you just move on to the next arm in the pen.

Yeah, because thats exactly what happened in last year's All Star game.
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Or yesterday in Seattle.

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i always enjoy the situations in NL games where you have a pitcher going very well for you in a tight game in the 7th and you have a couple on and your pitcher comes up. pinch hit? dont pinch hit? do you pull the pitcher and hope to get the insurance run, and leave it to your bullpen? situations like that make it interesting. AL ball you have little of that. you just stay with your guy until he cant go any further. yes, the AL still has some situation pinch hitting, but you generally dont have to worry about blowing through your bench in the mid innings of a game if you go to the pen early.


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To add to my previous post, there is nothing better than a 15+ inning NL game. When teams start running out of guys on the bench, and the pen, strategy and gut calls take over the game. A manager has to make the tough call of burning his last pinch hitter or sending up the relief pitcher to the plate. It makes for very interesting baseball.

In the AL you just keep trotting out the same guys and hope one of them hits a bomb to end it. Pitchers will continue pitching until they are spent and then you just move on to the next arm in the pen.

Yeah, because thats exactly what happened in last year's All Star game.
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Or yesterday in Seattle.


I wouldn't use the example of the all star game for anything but a negative. The game is played far differently than a regular season game. Yesterday in Seattle, people drank a shit load of coffee. I can do that here. :wink:

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