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What a difference one steal and a dunk makes. now he is a great draft choice!


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What a difference one steal and a dunk makes. now he is a great draft choice!

In this series, he's averaging 10.7 points and 12.8 rebounds.

That is better than Rodman did for any of the Bulls three championships, but Rodman did it over many more games.

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:55 pm 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
What a difference one steal and a dunk makes. now he is a great draft choice!

In this series, he's averaging 10.7 points and 12.8 rebounds.

That is better than Rodman did for any of the Bulls three championships, but Rodman did it over many more games.

I believe Noah can average a double-double over the course of a season.

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man of few opinions wrote:
What a difference one steal and a dunk makes. now he is a great draft choice!

In this series, he's averaging 10.7 points and 12.8 rebounds.

That is better than Rodman did for any of the Bulls three championships, but Rodman did it over many more games.


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I've been on it since the night he was drafted. Loved him in college, thought I would love him in the NBA. Never have I been too discouraged by his play to the point I didnt think he would be a serviceable starter. I now think he might be able to be more than that. He is goofy as hell to watch play but the bottom line is he gets the job done and he's the most fearless guy on our team, along with Ben Gordon.

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MattInTheCrown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
man of few opinions wrote:
What a difference one steal and a dunk makes. now he is a great draft choice!

In this series, he's averaging 10.7 points and 12.8 rebounds.

That is better than Rodman did for any of the Bulls three championships, but Rodman did it over many more games.

I believe Noah can average a double-double over the course of a season.


With enough steals and blocks add to those numbers. He needs to work on his passing game more, but as has been mentioned many times he's not very polished fundamentally.

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Then again, I'm not the coach so what do I know?


Based on what Im seeing, more than the current coach knows. Im not even kidding at all when I say I would trust myself, you, Nas, KC, Spinnin Bucket, and probably a few more to coach over Vinny. Doc hasnt been great in this series overall, but Vinny's unbelievable subpar coaching has been the most undertalked about subplot of this postseason

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FavreFan wrote:
MattInTheCrown wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In this series, he's averaging 10.7 points and 12.8 rebounds.

That is better than Rodman did for any of the Bulls three championships, but Rodman did it over many more games.

I believe Noah can average a double-double over the course of a season.

With enough steals and blocks add to those numbers. He needs to work on his passing game more, but as has been mentioned many times he's not very polished fundamentally.

I think his interior passing has been one of the most improved parts of his game. When he's in there with Thomas, Thomas is the regular beneficiary of passes from Noah.

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Thats true I just feel like he has a long way to go in that regard although he has made some nice plays in the last month or so. I still feel having a good passing big man is a very underrated asset in todays NBA and is one of the reasons I dont consider Dwight Howard a dominant NBA player yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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Is it a forgone conclusion that Scottie Pippen + Rogers Park Bryan = MATCH!


I think I'm with you on this one. But wasn't Scottie around way before Bryan?



Thats the thing about SPMacks mult accusations...always posts them with confidence but rarely has them right.


I am not Scott Pippen...if I did have a mult based on him...i wouldnt be extolling the virutes of his defensive prowess...and I would name him Scott 1.9 not Scottie


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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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I'm wouldn't call Ben Gordon fearless.


i would. his team could be in quad overtime game 7 nba finals still 3min to go and he would chuck up a three off balance about 3 feet behind the line... with 2 guys on him....

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hated the pick then...hate it now. He's a clown who rebounds. Still gets lost on defense, still has no jumpshot, still yells and screams like he's something special. I can't wait till he leaves town.

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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hated the pick then...hate it now. He's a clown who rebounds. Still gets lost on defense, still has no jumpshot, still yells and screams like he's something special. I can't wait till he leaves town.

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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Cof ain't changing his views for anything.

I bet Lily still has not pitched well this year either, huh?

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
This may be a dumb question, but why do the Bulls not give the ball to Derrick Rose at the top of the key, have the other post player set a pick for him, and let Rose attack the basket? You would tell Noah to be ready to rebound or get a quick pass near the basket for a dunk. You would tell Gordon/Salmons/Hinrich to be ready at the 3 point line for a shot or a kick and drive. You would tell the screener to move opposite Noah for the rebound on the other side or a dish and shot.

Why are the Bulls not doing this every play? Noah is perfect for this type of thing. All he can do is dunk and rebound. Rose has shown an amazing ability to fly through the air. Miller setting the screen allows for him to get open for a shot. Gordon and Salmons still would get the ball a ton. Hinrich would get some open 3's.

I honestly don't get why we get Ben Gordon and John Salmons facing the basket, dribbling, and then shooting. It works but I feel the above strategy would still get them the ball a ton with the defense scrambling to recover.

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Nas wrote:
You need guys on your team to know their role. Noah knows his role and he has played pretty well since mid January when he was given mins. Since January 19th Noah is averaging 9.8 total rebounds and 3.7 offensive rebounds in only 31 mins. Over 48 mins those numbers would jump to 15.2 rebounds and 5.7 offensive rebounds. With numbers like that I don't care that he is a clown that doesn't have a jump shot. Hustling and grabbing rebounds is good enough for me. Noah provides something most NBA teams need and it appears that he is happy to do it. On top of that the guy is a winner. He took his game to another level in the playoffs.

So you're telling me he's like Dennis Rodman?

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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Maybe a homeless man version of Rodman.

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Maybe a homeless man version of Rodman. Rodman scored more points earlier in his career and he took rebounding to another level. He has a career per 48 rebounding average of 19.8. That's insane. Even in his las year in the league he averaged 14 rebounds a game. He could also play defense at an all NBA level and Noah isn't even close yet.
Rodman's defense dropped off when he began the theatrics. While he was with the Bulls he was a great rebounder and underrated passer, but an average defender.

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 Post subject: Re: Noah bandwagon
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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Rodman's defense dropped off when he began the theatrics. While he was with the Bulls he was a great rebounder and underrated passer, but an average defender.

I think he made up for it though by mentally taking people out of the game. He would get people so pissed at him that they would lose focus. I don't think Noah could do any of that though. He would get slugged in the mouth and not be able to dish any of it back.

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looks like he's having fun in the off season.

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Maybe a homeless man version of Rodman.

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Poor mans Rodman is not that far off


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