Denver is a lot better than I thought.If the Lakers win they will have there hands full.

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Will the Celtics or the Magic provide much of a challenge for the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Eastern Conference Finals after LeBron and the Cavs sent the injury-ravaged Atlanta Hawks home in Game 4 tonight at Philips Arena 84-74. The Cavs are now 8-0 in these 2009 NBA Playoffs...

Got Magic and Lakers winning today

Didnt know these things were going on...thought Bulls Celtics was the Finals

Besides having Lebron pass, he was also missing free throws in fourth quarter, missed 2 or 3.

Totally overrated, at least his 4th game winner in the playoffs in his career

Unbelievable shot by the King. Cavs have blown 2 huge leads in both games. Where in the hell has the defense gone?

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Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

I was all happy about him apparently blowing the game with the travel...and then that.

Hater in the house

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Fuck Edwards and Zobrist

The King travels quit a bit

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

it's called a crab dribble.....

I don't care what care what STD he has it's still travelin'!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Is the NBA a league with a "pre-determined" outcome like Wrassling??
The traveling rule CAN NOT be ignored by the ref's,but it has been for years!!
Superstars are allowed the "playground" type dribbling that is never allowed at the lower levels.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

They would have been down 0-2, going to Orlando...I think the celebration was warranted...

I think that's precisely why they shouldn't be celebrating. they were a buzzer beater away from being down 0-2, and having lost both at home for that matter. They haven't played well aside from LeBron and the aura/mystique of their home court advantage has been shattered. I think that would be cause for concern, not celebration. Yes it was a great shot, no doubt, but I'm with Nas on this one

Kind of hard not to celebrate when anything good happens for a Clevland team.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I think this Cavs/Magic series is showing you why its possible Lebron may leave Cleveland. He has to do everything. His supporting cast has been horrible. They should have been swept if not for his buzzer beater in game 2.

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it also shows again how weak the east is if it was this easy for the cavs to make it to this point just to be beaten.

i don't want him to leave the cleave, but jesus he needs someone to help him out.

Well to be fair, they were the #1 seed so they obviously were going to be playing shoddy competition at least in the 1st round. Detroit had no business of being in the playoffs. I mean we saw a #7 seed take the #2 seed to 7 games (granted they were w/o Garnett but still). And while I doubt even if everyone was healthy that Atlanta would have won more than 1 or 2 games against Cleveland, they were incredibly shorthanded, missing Horford and Marvin Williams, as well as Joe Johnson being not 100%. Point is, yeah they did have an easy route to the East Finals, but that's part of the privilege of earning the #1 seed.

As far as someone helping him, they Cavs had 4 players (including James) average in double figures this season. That's about what most teams have. Mo Williams averaged 17.8 PPG on 47% FG shooting. That's not bad for a second fiddle. I think he's been getting help throughout the season, they just ran into a buzzsaw in Orlando that just matches up very well against them.

Orlando is a tough matchup for starters. Turkoglu and Lewis are both about 6-10, can shoot 3's or take it to the basket. If both are on, they aren't going to be beat, esepcially with Howard around the basket.
Regarding Cleveland, Williams was a good complement this season to James, but his supporting cast, which has always been questioned to some extent, has not shown up in this series.
Still not writing off the Cavs totally, but they really could have been swept in this series.

true. but while the match up is tough, they should be able to beat orlando.

i do expect the cavs to win the next one since dwight "the mouth" howard picked up his 6th technical and should be suspended the next game.

and on your point about garnett-less celtics, that is exactly the difference in match ups. no way does that series go 7 with him; he would've been a nightmare for the bulls. at least, i would guess that would be the case.

I'm not sure that's true after watching this series. Orlando has been the better team in this series.

Doug Collins mentioned last night that a technical foul could be taken away after a game after a review so it will be interesting to see what happens with that.

You could make a case for assigning that nickname to Mo Williams

David Stern is putting the bullets in the chamber. His worst nightmare Nuggets/Magic Championship Series!

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

David Stern is meeting with the officials as we speak.

Last night's late fouls were interesting - LeBron sort of trips driving to the basket, and a foul is called. Then Howard gets into a hand fight with Varejo, and no foul is called. I thought LeBron would have gotten that call.

Watched the 3rd qtr last night and it was a pretty pitiful performance from the
supporting cast from outside. Orlando is almost daring them to beat them from 18ft
and out. They will run up and put a hand in their face but I saw a lot of open shots
from the Cavs perimeter guys, mostly on passes from Lebron near the top of the key
and they drew iron all quarter long. Can't have quarters like that in the conference
finals. I still think this could go 7 games but the Magic are playing well and like others
have mentioned, are a real tough matchup for the Cavs.

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Walt, I'll tell you someone else who's sweating bullets right now...George Bodenheimer, bossman of ESPN/ABC Sports. A possible Denver/Orlando NBA Final could be a ratings dud for ABC & ESPN Radio if it comes to fruition, even if they're the best 2 teams remaining.

the nba has the most embarassing and pathetic officiating in the entire sports world. its a travesty the amount of garbage that gets called/no called based on situations, players, etc

Refs were bad last night. Let's face it, if the Cavs win tomorrow they are in
the Finals. The thing I noticed last night watching the 2nd half was the lack
of presence down low. If they do take on L.A. or even the Nuggets for that
matter, I give the Cavs maybe a 20% chance of winning. Even their 7'3 center
camps out 12 ft from the hoop.

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