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 Post subject: Re: Bulls Draft
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:11 pm 
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IMO he is a huge risk but if he reaches his potential it may be worth the risk. If I had a choice between him and Hansbrough I'm going with Tyler.

Yeah, he's a "project." Not real high on "projects" these days.

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I admit to knowing nothing about the NBA, and not much about basketball in general, but dear God, why on earth would you ever pick B.J. Mullens over Tyler Hansborough? It seems like one of those "so overrated he's becoming really underrated" type of situations.

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I admit to knowing nothing about the NBA, and not much about basketball in general, but dear God, why on earth would you ever pick B.J. Mullens over Tyler Hansborough? It seems like one of those "so overrated he's becoming really underrated" type of situations.

i agree...he wont be great...but hell be a servicable NBA player

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 Post subject: Re: Bulls Draft
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I admit to knowing nothing about the NBA, and not much about basketball in general, but dear God, why on earth would you ever pick B.J. Mullens over Tyler Hansborough? It seems like one of those "so overrated he's becoming really underrated" type of situations.

Average players in the NBA don't really mean much. Tyler Hansbrough has a clear ceiling and will get destroyed by above average players at his position. His weaknesses will cause him to be a liability against the other team unless they have a player with similar weaknesses. Even a player like Tyrus Thomas will dominate him in the NBA on athleticisim alone.

BJ Mullens sucks right now. He's also an asshole. He wasn't a team player at OSU and not very popular. However, he's a 7 footer and there is a chance he becomes a player that won't be a liability. He's not going to be a dominant center but he'll be able to matchup with nearly anyone else in the NBA unless they are an all-star.

The chance to add a player like that is better than taking a player who you can project fairly certainly how they will be. In the NBA, you can take many more chances in the draft because you don't really build depth through the draft like in the NFL. If the pick fails, you can sign a free agent, or you can fill it with another pick the next year.

In my opinion, the only thing that matters in the NBA is how good your best player is, how good your second best player is, and then if you have one good role player who provides a third dimension to your offense. The rest is all filler and fairly interchangeable. You can look at just about every championship team and it follows this model and these three players were better than the other teams.

BJ Mullens could be the role player who provides rebounding, defense, and a post presence. Tyler Hansbrough is part of the filler.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:34 pm 
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id guarantee that too since hes staying in school

ya that was my point...and I see his dad at the parking lot every morning...So Im in the know!!! :lol:


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I'm officially declaring Gerald Henderson to be "my guy" for this draft. I also think he may be the reason the Bulls are looking to move up, as he's expected to go to Charlotte @ 12. Pretty excited for Thursday.

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I'm officially declaring Gerald Henderson to be "my guy" for this draft. I .

Sorry, i already called him.


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What is exciting about Henderson?

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RFDC wrote:
What is exciting about Henderson?

He's got a good basketball name.


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 Post subject: Re: Bulls Draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:20 pm 
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What is exciting about Henderson?

I don't think there's too much exciting about individual players in this draft; most agree, it's a weak draft. That said, I'm excited about the general prospect of change for the Bulls; do Gordon/Hinrich/Deng stay, or go? Do the Bulls draft one guy, 2 guys, or none? Who do the Bulls draft? It's just all a big mystery at this point, really. As for as my Henderson love, I just think he's a nice player that could pair well with Rose. All that said, he is a fairly exiting player: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zzPe2rZxSY. Biggest knock I see on Henderson is that he isn't the sort to take over big games, but then, when you're building your team around Rose, having a solid role-player type at #2 with athleticism and good defense isn't a bad thing.

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He's got a good basketball name.

That's true, too. Lots of good nicknames that play off the "G" thing.

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I'd love to see Deng go, but isn't he a base-year player, thus making him very difficult to move?

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Yes, but his BYC status will expire this summer.


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Yes, but his BYC status will expire this summer.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:27 pm 
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There's kinda some breaking news in the Bulls draft front. Apparently, the Bulls are going to have Blair/Mullens/Johnson back for a second workout tomorrow. Many over at RealGM believes this means that the Bulls have it down to these 3, with one-on-one work being the deciding factor. It's unclear over there whether workouts can still be held on Wednesday, where it's been theorized that the Bulls could do the same with potential 2 guards, such as Henderson/Williams.

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Isn't Blair the guy with the "missing" ACL?

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Bulls need to find a way to deal these 2 picks. Like Berns said, they don't need anymore young guys. If they do make the picks, please no Bloody Whitey. It would only be entertaining the day after, to hear B&B rip on him.

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 Post subject: Re: Bulls Draft
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:21 pm 
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Isn't Blair the guy with the "missing" ACL?

Yeah, he's got knee issues. And he's undersized at the 4. He's supposed to be a spectacular rebounder, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Bulls Draft
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I'm mildly interested in Henderson if Gar can trade up, but the big men don't excite me at all. I'd love to trade out for picks next year (for both talent & financial purposes), but I can't imagine any non-elite teams taking the bait.

We can't know for sure, but this draft certainly appears to be one of the shittiest in recent memory. Griffin is the real deal (not an ideal 1st pick, however), but the rest of this class has the potential to rival the 2000 draft as the worst I've ever seen:

http://www.nba.com/history/draft_round1_2000s.html#2000


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I'm officially declaring Gerald Henderson to be "my guy" for this draft. I also think he may be the reason the Bulls are looking to move up, as he's expected to go to Charlotte @ 12. Pretty excited for Thursday.


Your guy is the second coming of Derek Anderson. Except I don't expect him to last in the NBA as long as Anderson did (10+ years). Henderson will top out as a 10-12ppg/4rpg/2.5apg type of guy, not terrible but at best a spot starter here and there.

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I'm officially declaring Gerald Henderson to be "my guy" for this draft. I also think he may be the reason the Bulls are looking to move up, as he's expected to go to Charlotte @ 12. Pretty excited for Thursday.


Your guy is the second coming of Derek Anderson. Except I don't expect him to last in the NBA as long as Anderson did (10+ years). Henderson will top out as a 10-12ppg/4rpg/2.5apg type of guy, not terrible but at best a spot starter here and there.

A ten-year spot-starter is pretty good for this draft outside the first several picks.

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Why wouldn't you call Griffin an ideal #1? The guy is a monster? He is 6-10 guy that is a freak of nature.


He's absolutely the #1 player in this draft, but he's not a franchise changer in my opinion, and that's what you're hoping to find when you have the first pick. He's not in the same class as LeBron, Howard, Rose, etc.


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Besides Blake, this draft is horrible. It has to suck to be a lottery team this year. Bulls need to find someone to take their 2 picks.

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Blake Griffin will be an all-star player. He won't be a top 5 NBA player but you can count on him to be better than virtually every person he matches up against. Even though he's not the same player as Kevin Garnett, I could easily see him filling the role that Garnett did on the Celtics. The key will be finding the dominant guard that can be your go to guy in the fourth quarter because I don't believe Griffin is the kind of guy who can win a game for you in the fourth quarter. He'll be a heck of an asset though for the entire four quarters.

If I was Cleveland, I would offer virtually anything the Clippers wanted outside of Lebron for Griffin. It may not be enough though.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
If I was Chicago, I would offer virtually anything the Clippers wanted outside of Rose for Griffin.

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The Bulls have to replace the scoring of Gordon,I think Curry just doesn't have a NBA body. Blake Griffin has no jumper and like all players today,his defense stinks.Tyler I think would be a huge mistake,the reason he played 4 years in college was.....come on NBA guys tell me why?

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WWN most guys that come into the league don't have an NBA body and all need to work on some part of their game. You watch the game so I know you know this. Why are you looking for a fight?


Because if you think that Curry is going to be his Daddy your WRONG.If you think Tyler was good enough to come out last year and make $$$$$ and play a whole year and risk the cash for records then there is something wrong with you. I'm Italian I like to argue...... quoting Vinnie D

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Is there anyone in Europe that might attract interest?

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Is there anyone in Europe that might attract interest?


Zsa Gabor a power forward from Croatia :wink:

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