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And this is why I dislike the Cubs-Sox series. Or Sox-Cubs to appease the Sox fans. Whatever. Keep it.


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agreed, old man river.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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When you have an opinion on something relevant it will be your 1st.You were named after the character on Saved by the Bell? Right Zach

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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I also enjoyed yet another act in the comedic tragedy that is Carlos Zambrano.


I hope you cleaned up your keyboard after that little bon mot. To be fair, at least this axe grinding against Zambrano had relevance to your Sox, so you just soak it up and enjoy it... and remember to throw out the kleenex afterwards lest you get asked awkward questions yet again.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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I'm getting sick of these nitwit lazy ass reporters calling this series the 'Crosstown Classic'. The 'Crosstown Classic' was a series of exhibition games played for charity that meant NOTHING. These are interleague games that count in the standings. Call it 'the city showdown', 'the transit series', 'the who can suck less series' but STOP CALLING IT 'THE CROSSTOWN CLASSIC.' Sheesh.


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keyser, unfortunately it is just gonna stick.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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I wish the Sox could play the NL all the time. It would make winning much easier.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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I'm getting sick of these nitwit lazy ass reporters calling this series the 'Crosstown Classic'. The 'Crosstown Classic' was a series of exhibition games played for charity that meant NOTHING. These are interleague games that count in the standings. Call it 'the city showdown', 'the transit series', 'the who can suck less series' but STOP CALLING IT 'THE CROSSTOWN CLASSIC.' Sheesh.


That one's my favorite.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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And when the NL gains the upper hand (as this dominance is both cyclical and meaningless), NL meatballs will be wishing to play the AL all the time. Whoopie. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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And when the NL gains the upper hand (as this dominance is both cyclical and meaningless), NL meatballs will be wishing to play the AL all the time. Whoopie. :roll:

I think your cycle is broken.

The NL hasn't won since 2003 and it hasn't been close after 2004.

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sports fans are just predictable kerchung...get used to it. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?

I wouldn't be surprised to see someone selling these outside of a stadium one day.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?

It's sold by the "attendance championship" t-shirt.

My comment was a joke. I can't believe how serious people take this stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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kerchungathunk wrote:
And when the NL gains the upper hand (as this dominance is both cyclical and meaningless), NL meatballs will be wishing to play the AL all the time. Whoopie. :roll:

I think your cycle is broken.

The NL hasn't won since 2003 and it hasn't been close after 2004.


HOLY SHIT! FIVE YEARS?! DUUUDE, THAT'S LIKE FOREVER.

And no, I never mult, but that post deserved a Wayne Stylie whateverthefuckhisnameis type response.
There are numerous examples of one league's edge over another throughout baseball history going well beyond the interleague play. All of that is cyclical as well. I repeat... Whoopie. :roll: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Keyser Soze wrote:
I'm getting sick of these nitwit lazy ass reporters calling this series the 'Crosstown Classic'. The 'Crosstown Classic' was a series of exhibition games played for charity that meant NOTHING. These are interleague games that count in the standings. Call it 'the city showdown', 'the transit series', 'the who can suck less series' but STOP CALLING IT 'THE CROSSTOWN CLASSIC.' Sheesh.


Sorry, already copyrighted by the Astros/Rangers series.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?

It's sold by the "attendance championship" t-shirt.

My comment was a joke. I can't believe how serious people take this stuff.


My comment was a joke as well...and I also can't believe how serious people take this stuff...


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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lipidquadcab wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?

I wouldn't be surprised to see someone selling these outside of a stadium one day.


That would be yet another example of the dumbening of baseball fans. People bought, Cork, Suck the White Fox, and Horry Kow t-shirts, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.

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lipidquadcab wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction...I'm looking to buy an "interleague champions" t-shirt...seeing as how important it seems to be, surely these must exist, right?

It's sold by the "attendance championship" t-shirt.

My comment was a joke. I can't believe how serious people take this stuff.


My comment was a joke as well...and I also can't believe how serious people take this stuff...

My comment was a resigned acknowledgment that some people take this stuff very seriously.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
kerchungathunk wrote:
And when the NL gains the upper hand (as this dominance is both cyclical and meaningless), NL meatballs will be wishing to play the AL all the time. Whoopie. :roll:

I think your cycle is broken.

The NL hasn't won since 2003 and it hasn't been close after 2004.


HOLY SHIT! FIVE YEARS?! DUUUDE, THAT'S LIKE FOREVER.

And no, I never mult, but that post deserved a Wayne Stylie whateverthefuckhisnameis type response.
There are numerous examples of one league's edge over another throughout baseball history going well beyond the interleague play. All of that is cyclical as well. I repeat... Whoopie. :roll: :lol:

Odds are though that the AL will always dominate the NL. The gap has become pretty large as the evidence above shows.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Ummmm... no.
A five year trend does not make a strong case for forever in a game well over 100 years old. :lol:
Sadly, in pursuit of the all mighty dollar, I imagine that the NL will adopt the thrice damned DH rule and that will be the ultimate leveling of the playing field. Even without that, five years of evidence is far too small to have any confidence in saying the AL will "always dominate." That's just silly.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:

My comment was a joke. I can't believe how serious people take this stuff.


Funny. I can't believe how serious you take yourself sometimes. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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Ummmm... no.
A five year trend does not make a strong case for forever in a game well over 100 years old. :lol:

The AL has dominated the post-Steroids era. Once performance enhancers were virtually eliminated from the game it became clear that one league was inferior to the other.
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Sadly, in pursuit of the all mighty dollar, I imagine that the NL will adopt the thrice damned DH rule and that will be the ultimate leveling of the playing field. Even without that, five years of evidence is far too small to have any confidence in saying the AL will "always dominate." That's just silly.

The NL would lose it's only real advantage in that superior AL teams are unable to let the pitcher rest for the batting period. AL pitchers are not used to swinging bats and they get ired more easily. It is a testament to the dominance of the AL that they are able to overcome.

Will you say that the evidence is far too small when the AL dominates the NL for the next 50 years?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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kerchungathunk wrote:
Ummmm... no.
A five year trend does not make a strong case for forever in a game well over 100 years old. :lol:
Sadly, in pursuit of the all mighty dollar, I imagine that the NL will adopt the thrice damned DH rule and that will be the ultimate leveling of the playing field. Even without that, five years of evidence is far too small to have any confidence in saying the AL will "always dominate." That's just silly.


I guess you didn't bother to read the Baseball Prospectus article I posted.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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The reason that the AL will be superior to the NL is that the AL can build the team with a pure hitter, zero fielder guy. The NL teams do not have this luxury... they are much more likely to carry a utility guy than a power hitter. If Thome played on a NL team, for example, you would expect him to get maybe 150 PAs a year, but the price tag on him would be the same as it would be on an AL team. You can argue that he can play first base, and that is a fine argument, but an AL team can do that as well and add another pure power, zero field guy. That's really the reason why the AL would continue to beat the NL for the foreseeable future IMHO.

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if anyone cares about the "superiority" of the AL over the NL, that is really sad. one or the other has to happen: ditch the DH, or make both leagues have it.


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if anyone cares about the "superiority" of the AL over the NL, that is really sad. one or the other has to happen: ditch the DH, or make both leagues have it.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs/Sox part Deux
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if anyone cares about the "superiority" of the AL over the NL, that is really sad. one or the other has to happen: ditch the DH, or make both leagues have it.

As much as that makes sense, I really can't see either of those happening any time soon... if they ditch the DH, the MLBPA will be up in arms, and if they try to impose it on the NL teams, I can envision many a baseball historian crying foul.

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