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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:39 pm 
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Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up SORRY-ano to an 8 year contract (5 more to go)
Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up FUK-U-Do-Me to 6 years (4 more to go)
Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up "Uncle Milty minus the BIGSTICK" (maybe 2 years)
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Those 3 signings might damage this team for the next 3-4 years.
What will Soriano look like 5 years from now???
Fukadome-13mil a year??? I did not want him before the Cubs signed him. Never played MLB,never give a big contract-simple rule to follow.
Bradley is the only one I can see hitting well for all 3 years,but he has to start soon!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:55 pm 
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Not that it makes it any better....but wasn't Fuk signed for 4 years....not 6? I could be wrong.

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Not that it makes it any better....but wasn't Fuk signed for 4 years....not 6? I could be wrong.


I hope your right! Anybody?
Also,let's remember the Sox GM offered him MORE money if you can
beleive that!

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Fukudome = 4 year contract.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:39 pm 
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Fukudome = 4 year contract.



Correct, 4years, 48 million.

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I was very uncertain about the Fukadome contract, as I knew so little about him. But I trusted Hendry, after he had made such good deals, getting Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton (along with randal Simon-who did a good job too) from the Pirates in trade. Plus getting Derek Lee for Hee Sop Choi. Fukadome looked like a big star the first 2 months of 2008 too. I think he has settled into what we can expect now...a .270-.280 hitter with a little pop, who plays excellent defense and runs the bases well. Soriano was overpaid, but whomever signed him, was going to overpay. There were several teams willing to pay a ton to get him. Hendry just wanted him so much, that he decided to go 8 years on the deal, which was longer than anyone else's offer. Now it really looks foolish. But to me, the Bradley deal was the dumbest. He has a history of both being a loose cannon, who can be a distraction to the rest of the team, as well as a history of being hurt often. With Ibanez and Abreau both available at the time, it made no sense to go after Bradley. But to me, the trading of DeRosa and signing of Aaron Miles was even worse. Hendry had a very bad winter. If the new ownership decides to replace Hendry as well as Piniella, I would not be shocked.

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And the trade of Marquis to colorado for Vizcaino was just a total mess and a huge loss of $$$. The Cubs are eating millions of dollars with no talent on the field to show for it. If he wanted to trade Marquis...fine, but at least get something in return and not some middle reliever you pay 4 Million for and then out right release him a month or 2 into the season. Hendry is having a REALLY bad year...and now his pocket book is closed so he cant buy his way out.

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And by acquiring Vizcaino that left no room for Chad Gaudin, who Hendry renewed for $2M during the off season. Gaudin was named the NL pitcher of the week and has been on a hell of a roll for the Padres.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:00 am 
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Wow. A full analysis of Hendry's moves since the playoff debacle last year is mind boggeling. There is not one that you can even hang your hat on. Bad, bad, bad!

-marquis
-vizcaino
-gaudin
-freel
-miles
-derosa
-cotts
-blanco
-bradley

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dont forget though randy wells has taken jason marquis spot in the rotation and he has looked great so far. did anyone think this kid would have a 2.57 era after 9 starts? he should be 6-1 or somewhere close but thanks to the shitty cubs offense he is only 2-3. if he keeps pitching even close to this good the rest of the season then i gladly say goodbye to gaudin and marquis. neither of whom were at all impressive with the cubs. so what if theyve done a few good things on their new teams.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:58 pm 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
And by acquiring Vizcaino that left no room for Chad Gaudin, who Hendry renewed for $2M during the off season. Gaudin was named the NL pitcher of the week and has been on a hell of a roll for the Padres.


:lol:

Chad Gaudin has a 4-6 record with an ERA of 4.97 starting for the Padres, in a pitcher's ballpark.

Sorry, but the Padres can keep Gaudin. He wouldn't crack the Cubs rotation when Marshall was starting or now when Wells is starting.

By the way how is Kevin MacDougal doing?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:33 pm 
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Gaudin would look pretty good pitching in the cubs bullpen rather than paying him to win games for the Padres.

I assume you mean Mike McDougal and what does he have to do with this conversation other than a cub fans obsession with the Sox? :lol:


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What would make you think Gaudin would do well in the bullpen? He was nothing special last year in the bullpen for the Cubs and his 4.97 ERA in a pitchers park doesn't quite impress me. Four wins, wow :roll:

What does MacDougal have to do with this conversation? Simple, you consantly harp about Hendry's moves (and he certainly has made his share of boneheaded moves) but to criticize Hendry for Gaudin is realllly reaching. That would be me like criticizing Kenny Williams for letting go of MacDougal for nothing and then seeing he has an ERA of less than 2 and three saves for the Nationals.


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What would make you think Gaudin would do well in the bullpen? He was nothing special last year in the bullpen forand his 4.97 ERA in a pitchers park doesn't quite impress me.

What does MacDougal have to do with this conversation? Simple, you consantly harp about Hendry's moves (and he certainly has made his share of boneheaded moves) but to criticize Hendry for Gaudin is realllly reaching. That would be me like criticizing Kenny Williams for letting go of MacDougal for nothing and then seeing he has an ERA of less than 2 and three saves for the Nationals.


A WS ring means Kenny is allowed a bad move here and there. I'm a Cubs fan by the way.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:25 pm 
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Fine, but to criticize Hendry for letting Gaudin go seems to me pretty stupid.


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McDougal was under contract, the Sox gave him a shot to earn a job and he failed. If he finds success elsewhere good for him.

Gaudin was NOT under contract. Hendry could have non-tendered him in the offseason but he instead renewed him for $2M. Then he released him during spring training (April 6th). It was absolutely retarted to offer a guy a contract then release him before the season starts. I keep reading cub fans cry about the ownership issues because Hendry's 'hands are tied'. Maybe if Hendry didn't flush so money down the toilet his hands wouldn't be so tied. But go ahead and keep defending him and calling me stupid. :roll:


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Keyser Soze wrote:
McDougal was under contract, the Sox gave him a shot to earn a job and he failed. If he finds success elsewhere good for him.

Gaudin was NOT under contract. Hendry could have non-tendered him in the offseason but he instead renewed him for $2M. Then he released him during spring training (April 6th). It was absolutely retarted to offer a guy a contract then release him before the season starts. I keep reading cub fans cry about the ownership issues because Hendry's 'hands are tied'. Maybe if Hendry didn't flush so money down the toilet his hands wouldn't be so tied. But go ahead and keep defending him and calling me stupid. :roll:

Thanks,I did not know that about Gaudin. Hendry is guessing wrong BIGTIME!
Bring back John Holland (from the dead!). John made some of the best moves in
Cubs history. Aquired Ferguson Jenkins for some nonames. Glen Beckert & Randy Hundley
along with Bill Hands. Cubs also had a decent farm system under John. Never won a pennant of course.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
McDougal was under contract, the Sox gave him a shot to earn a job and he failed. If he finds success elsewhere good for him.

Gaudin was NOT under contract. Hendry could have non-tendered him in the offseason but he instead renewed him for $2M. Then he released him during spring training (April 6th). It was absolutely retarted to offer a guy a contract then release him before the season starts. I keep reading cub fans cry about the ownership issues because Hendry's 'hands are tied'. Maybe if Hendry didn't flush so money down the toilet his hands wouldn't be so tied. But go ahead and keep defending him and calling me stupid. :roll:


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Fine, but to criticize Hendry for letting Gaudin go seems to me pretty stupid.


But to keep David Patton, who does nothing for the team of real value, basically reduces the active roster to 24. Gaudin would have been a more valuable player to the team than Patton. Yes, I know, if the Cubs had not kept him on the major league roster, they lose him back to Colorado....so what. If he can't contribute now, I would rather have someone else who can.

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Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up SORRY-ano to an 8 year contract (5 more to go)
Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up FUK-U-Do-Me to 6 years (4 more to go)
Thank You Jim Hendry for locking up "Uncle Milty minus the BIGSTICK" (maybe 2 years)
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Those 3 signings might damage this team for the next 3-4 years.
What will Soriano look like 5 years from now???
Fukadome-13mil a year??? I did not want him before the Cubs signed him. Never played MLB,never give a big contract-simple rule to follow.
Bradley is the only one I can see hitting well for all 3 years,but he has to start soon!


And you said all of this before tonight's 8th inning fiasco......

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enigma wrote:
Fine, but to criticize Hendry for letting Gaudin go seems to me pretty stupid.


But to keep David Patton, who does nothing for the team of real value, basically reduces the active roster to 24. Gaudin would have been a more valuable player to the team than Patton. Yes, I know, if the Cubs had not kept him on the major league roster, they lose him back to Colorado....so what. If he can't contribute now, I would rather have someone else who can.



Agree, Patton is a waste of a roster spot. He pitches once a week if hes lucky, and usually he is bad.

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Hendry is a boob and his collection of suck is going nowhere fast.

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Let me get this straight -
We send down Ascanio and bring up Samardzija.
Ascanio has a lower ERA in the majors than Samadzija has in the minors.
Go figure!

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Let me get this straight -
We send down Ascanio and bring up Samardzija.
Ascanio has a lower ERA in the majors than Samadzija has in the minors.
Go figure!

It would seem, the cocksuckers running the Cub are as knowledgeable about baseball as the cocksuckers running the Treasury Department are about economics.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
enigma wrote:
Fine, but to criticize Hendry for letting Gaudin go seems to me pretty stupid.


But to keep David Patton, who does nothing for the team of real value, basically reduces the active roster to 24. Gaudin would have been a more valuable player to the team than Patton. Yes, I know, if the Cubs had not kept him on the major league roster, they lose him back to Colorado....so what. If he can't contribute now, I would rather have someone else who can.



Agree, Patton is a waste of a roster spot. He pitches once a week if hes lucky, and usually he is bad.


Yeah and he is wearing Juan Pierre's old baseball cap!

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I got to admit the Patton thing boggles my mind. Obviously if we were to send him down we would lose him but why is Hendry so high on this guy? Everytime I have seen him pitch I haven't seen him be lights out. In fact his stuff is mediocre at best. With the bullpen leaking like a sieve aren't there better options? And if not then thats an indictment of the sorry state of the Cubs minor league arms. Teams that are "supposed" to win the division easily don't usually hold on to mediocre rule 5 talent like its going out of style.

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