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 Post subject: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:43 pm 
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Would be nice to put some distance between us with a series win.

Monday:
LH Wandy Rodriguez (10-6, 2.72) vs. RH Carlos Zambrano (7-4, 3.48).

Tuesday:
RH Roy Oswalt (6-4, 3.66) vs. RH Ryan Dempster (5-5, 4.09).

Wednesday:
LH Mike Hampton (6-7, 4.74) vs. RH Randy Wells (6-4, 3.10).

Thursday:
RH Russ Ortiz (3-5, 4.75) vs. RH Kevin Hart (2-1, 2.08).

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:47 pm 
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I smell a split. Hope I am wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:53 pm 
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how can you split 3 games?

I say win ,loss, win

Wells is looking good and I think Ryan D is coming back too soon. This weekend was nice now the real work is on them to try and hold 1st and distance themselves from Houston.


Edit: my bad jumped the gun it is 4 games sorry . If it is Hart then we are gonna split. My bad heap the abuse on me.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:54 pm 
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how can you split 3 games?

I say win ,loss, win

Wells is looking good and I think Ryan D is coming back too soon. This weekend was nice now the real work is on them to try and hold 1st and distance themselves from Houston.


4 Game Series Chas - I say 3 out of 4 if we win today.

I like our matchups the rest of the way except against Oswalt, but he has looked human of late.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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Game 1 should be outstanding, as Zambrano has been good over several starts and Rodriguz has been very good this season-particularly at home. I DO NOT like the match-up in game 2, as Oswalt has been pitching very well in his past several starts and Dempster is coming off an injury, which will likely limit the number of pitches he can throw. Game 3 is a more favorable pairing, with the Cubs facing Hampton and Randy Wells looking to continue his win streak. The finale looks pretty good too. Russ Ortiz pitched well against the Cubs earlier this season, but hasn't an earned run average that suggests the Cubs should get to him. Kevin Hart is coming off back, to back wins, but they were against the Nationals and the Reds, so I'm not going to get too giggly about that. On paper it looks like a split. But if Z wins game 1, the Cubs may take 3 of 4.

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Game 1 should be outstanding, as Zambrano has been good over several starts and Rodriguz has been very good this season-particularly at home. I DO NOT like the match-up in game 2, as Oswalt has been pitching very well in his past several starts and Dempster is coming off an injury, which will likely limit the number of pitches he can throw. Game 3 is a more favorable pairing, with the Cubs facing Hampton and Randy Wells looking to continue his win streak. The finale looks pretty good too. Russ Ortiz pitched well against the Cubs earlier this season, but hasn't an earned run average that suggests the Cubs should get to him. Kevin Hart is coming off back, to back wins, but they were against the Nationals and the Reds, so I'm not going to get too giggly about that. On paper it looks like a split. But if Z wins game 1, the Cubs may take 3 of 4.


I agree. Oswalt might have turned it around a little of late, but he has gotten hit hard in more than a few games this year.

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Game 1 should be outstanding, as Zambrano has been good over several starts and Rodriguz has been very good this season-particularly at home. I DO NOT like the match-up in game 2, as Oswalt has been pitching very well in his past several starts and Dempster is coming off an injury, which will likely limit the number of pitches he can throw. Game 3 is a more favorable pairing, with the Cubs facing Hampton and Randy Wells looking to continue his win streak. The finale looks pretty good too. Russ Ortiz pitched well against the Cubs earlier this season, but hasn't an earned run average that suggests the Cubs should get to him. Kevin Hart is coming off back, to back wins, but they were against the Nationals and the Reds, so I'm not going to get too giggly about that. On paper it looks like a split. But if Z wins game 1, the Cubs may take 3 of 4.


I just want some good baseball is that too much to ask for?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:05 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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Where would the Cubs be with out Randy Wells & Kevin Hart? So far,both have stepped up big time. That's the problem with Hendry. He signs so many Free Agents,there is no room on the roster for anyone else to get a chance. David Patton had to be kept on the roster,other then that,I think it was the usual vet's.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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DegenerateDave wrote:
chaspoppcap wrote:

I like our matchups the rest of the way except against Oswalt, but he has looked human of late.



Looked human of late, as in not real impressive? Well, he had the Cardinals shut out through 6 innings before giving up 3 in the 7th. Still, 3 runs over 7 inning to the Cards is not too shabby. But lets look at the start before that on July 17th against the majors best-the Dodgers. He went the whole 9 innings, giving up 1 run. On July 10th, he probably wasn't real excited to face the Nationals and gave up 3 earned in 6 innings. But in the start before that, he went 8 innings against the Wild Card leading Giants and gave up just 1 run(3 hits). Oh and the start before that, against the Padres....another complete game. A 2 hitter, where again, he yielded just 1 run. So his earned run average over the previous 5 games 2.30 . If you add in the start before that vs Kansas City, where he went 6 and gave up just 1 run, its even lower. So if you are talking about basically the last inning of his last start, yes he wasn't all that impressive. But if you look at his last half dozen starts, he has been very, very good. One thing I did notice though, in the starts on the road, he has been much better, while his less impressive starts have been in Houston. Perhaps that trend will continue and the Cubs can get the win versus their ace.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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If memory serves correct Wandy is usually very good against the Cubs. Should be a good game if Z's stuff is working

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:22 pm 
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Cubs sweep....as the late Harry Caray said "big possums walk late"

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:27 pm 
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Cubs sweep....as the late Harry Caray said "big possums walk late"


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How does a guy from (insert Latin country) lose a ball in the Sun?

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
DegenerateDave wrote:
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I like our matchups the rest of the way except against Oswalt, but he has looked human of late.



Looked human of late, as in not real impressive? Well, he had the Cardinals shut out through 6 innings before giving up 3 in the 7th. Still, 3 runs over 7 inning to the Cards is not too shabby. But lets look at the start before that on July 17th against the majors best-the Dodgers. He went the whole 9 innings, giving up 1 run. On July 10th, he probably wasn't real excited to face the Nationals and gave up 3 earned in 6 innings. But in the start before that, he went 8 innings against the Wild Card leading Giants and gave up just 1 run(3 hits). Oh and the start before that, against the Padres....another complete game. A 2 hitter, where again, he yielded just 1 run. So his earned run average over the previous 5 games 2.30 . If you add in the start before that vs Kansas City, where he went 6 and gave up just 1 run, its even lower. So if you are talking about basically the last inning of his last start, yes he wasn't all that impressive. But if you look at his last half dozen starts, he has been very, very good. One thing I did notice though, in the starts on the road, he has been much better, while his less impressive starts have been in Houston. Perhaps that trend will continue and the Cubs can get the win versus their ace.


Steve - I thought Oswalt had a stretch in late May early June where he had either 3 or 4 bad outings put together, but maybe I'm wrong. I haven't followed him as closely this year but I thought I remembered him hitting a fairly rough patch unlike him in previous years.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:23 pm 
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I don't know what Wandy's road numbers are this year, but in years past, hasn't he had bigger ERA away from the Dome? I think I have that right. If that's the case, may his road woes continue. If Z is solid tonight (especially mentally, though it's amazing we have to worry about that), we have a decent shot at 3 of 4. However, I imagine that they'll split as the Astros are a step up in class and the Cubs are a middle of the road team. Hart is doing it with mirrors so far, but then again, I thought that about Wells. Wells has acquitted himself rather well so far this season.
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Reed Mantle blows. Really don't want to see him batting anymore this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Cubs & Astros
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UH OH!!! [/DJ]. Looks like Lee's neck is ok today

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That was a BOMB by DLee

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Lee and Ramirez are swinging the sticks. Now if Bradley and Soriano could get it going.

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Lee and Ramirez are swinging the sticks. Now if Bradley and Soriano could get it going.


They just showed that Soriano is hitting like 455 over the last 10 days.

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Get a double with no outs, and Bradley, Soriano, and Baker fail to do anything. Baker really needs to go also, doesn't bring much to the table.

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That's not exactly a helium filled ERA, is it?
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The BA is interesting. The Cubs are going right along with that model with 5 hits but only one run on a solo bomb by DLee. Proves you can hit him, but you've got to finish the deal. You get someone on base, especially in scoring position and no outs, you damn well better bring him home or you'll regret it.

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Hunter Pence annoys the hell out of me.

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shawn johnson gets the gold medal of stupid singing.

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HEY ALFONSE! If you swing at a ball thats actually on the ground, dont bitch that you made contact. You shouldnt have been swinging at it in the first damned place.

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shawn johnson gets the gold medal of stupid singing.

poor girl...


Like, oh my gosh! Ok. Well. Oh my gosh!

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You know Z is loving this, intentionally walk Hill to get to him.

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