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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:10 pm 
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Just back and it seems everyone is just phoning it in. Not dark enough , too much humor and no thrills.
The Book had some really dark and dismal shit, the film on the other hand steers welll clear of it. THe core 3 actors did a good enough job but on the whole blah. Left way too much out and the things they did change where not bad like number 3 but still not a very well put together movie.
I give it 2 1/2 out of 5

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couldn't disagree more. best film of the series by far. the humor was a nice touch, and the relationship between dumbledore and harry was perfectly represented. well paced, and well written. still nowhere near as powerful as the books, but i'm past that now. i'm only looking at these as films, and this along with "order" are the only 2 that actually were successful as "films" as well as adaptations.


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true my reading and remembering the books was a factor. Watson was very good showing angst and her feelings for ron. But with the title being 1/2 blood prince they only talk about it 3 times in the movie , in the book it is a much larger part and could have been used as a suspense film. It is your opinion Zach and you are usually good but it seems like the last 2 movies you and I have been on polar opposites. I was let down, not a ton of action like the other movies, Quidditch was a throw away when in novel was a major plot device showcasing Ron. I do not know left me lacking is all. All I do know is G.I. Joe is looking good and I hope it won't suck like the rest of the stuff I have been looking forward to this summer( Yes I still think Trek blew)


edit: I hope they stick with the Joss Wedon-esk bloodbath that is coming in the last book/pair of movies. This movie was supposed to have you leaving the theater like Empire so you could be lifted up like Return. Sorry but it just didn't grab me like that .
I will place a bet they never explain who R.A.B is or reveal whom the Bartender at the brooms is.

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i always value your opinion whether we agree or not; it's fair to agree to disagree. :wink: oddly this was the first movie in which i finally *accepted* gambon as dumbledore.

i still think emma watson is a horrible actress. she'd better hold onto that money cos she ain't got a career in her at all.

"g.i. joe" just looks silly to me but it could be fun. don't know...i'm more into trying to get out to see "moon".


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I generally liked the film; however, I still have not read the books. I plan to read them after the last movies in a few years. As crazy as it sounds, I always like to read the book after the movie because it enhances the experience (few movies are able to live up to the book, partly why I stay away from movies in general. No better example of this than most Stephen King movie adaptations. But I digress...)

They spent so much of the last film building the concept of "Dumbledore's Army". Where was that at all in this film? Did everyone go home and forget about it? I agree with W_Z, Emma Watson is horrible and you can see how they have essentially made her role completely unimportant in the last two films. I am getting frustrated with the continued rape of the concept of the mentor who really doesn't need to be a mentor because the hero is really good enough to be able to succeed on their own; aka. the Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan relationship. The same thing was done here with Harry and Dumbledore. My final complaint, Lord Voldemort is such a central figure in the last movie, yet he is reduced to nothing more than Sauron in Mordor in this film, simply seeing his face in the clouds. He is the freaking antagonist in this whole series and I feel they give him no damned attention!

I did like the visuals in this movie. Yeah, they overdid the explosions and destruction a bit, but I think they do a good job with the "look" of the characters in the movie. Also, the look of the set. There is that continued cold, dark feel of Hogwart's. The attention to weather changes and the look and feel of the scenes really embeds great feelings. I generally am ok with Daniel Radcliffe. Not sure how well he fits into the character that is actually in the book. Finally, I love Alan Rickman. I agree with Chas. He should be developed and used so much more. The guy is just solid as an actor and brings so much for me to the Snape role. It disappoints me how they focus so little on him.

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I am (ashamedly) a Potter freak and have read, re-read and re-read again all 7 books. I stood in line for about 2 hours at the release of the 7th book and have seen all the movies.

While that certainly doesn't qualify me as an expert, in my opinion, this movie stayed more closely to the book than any previous adaptation.

Understandably, in a 2 and a 1/2 hour movie, there is no real way to translate a 700 page plus book in that timespan, so I kind of understood that they turned Weasley into a hero right away during the quidditch match and took other liberties to shorten the length of the movie while not losing much in translation.

I couldn't agree more with Watson's ability to find a job after this series is over - she offers nothing to the role. I think Rupert Gint (or Grint?) might be the only one of the three that will do anything after this - I think Radcliffe is going to be way too typecast as Harry Potter to ever amount anything closely resembling a career.

It's a shame that the Dumbledore character had to die at this juncture in the movie to follow the books because I also was just starting to accept Gambon as a viable Dumbledore.

I'd give it 3 out of 4 stars and I am really interested in seeing what they do with the 7th movie given what happened in the book. There was a lot of time in the 7th book that was filled with just purely, Harry, Ron and Hermione looking for the horcruxes and I can't imagine them devoting that much of the movie to the search as to the end result.

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I am hoping that Rickman takes a bit more of a role in the seventh book and based upon his role in the book I expect to see him front and center a little bit more.

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DegenerateDave wrote:
I am (ashamedly) a Potter freak and have read, re-read and re-read again all 7 books. I stood in line for about 2 hours at the release of the 7th book and have seen all the movies.

While that certainly doesn't qualify me as an expert, in my opinion, this movie stayed more closely to the book than any previous adaptation.


They left some stuff out but as a film it worked, and I think the same happened with "Order of the Phoenix". In any event, these past two films have been *much* better than the previous 4. The worst I'd still say was "Goblet of Fire" since the book was my favorite of the series, and the movie just glossed over way too much, and was really banal. The first movie was weak, too, but there wasn't a lot they could do with such young actors. But it seemed to be more focused on being pretty and nice than effective. The first book was a lot deeper.

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Understandably, in a 2 and a 1/2 hour movie, there is no real way to translate a 700 page plus book in that timespan, so I kind of understood that they turned Weasley into a hero right away during the quidditch match and took other liberties to shorten the length of the movie while not losing much in translation.


As I recall in the book, Weasley got into someone's face and told them to name a "time and a place" where he could show him what a real man was like.

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I couldn't agree more with Watson's ability to find a job after this series is over - she offers nothing to the role. I think Rupert Gint (or Grint?) might be the only one of the three that will do anything after this - I think Radcliffe is going to be way too typecast as Harry Potter to ever amount anything closely resembling a career.


For some reason, though, I think Radcliffe has a good chance of shaking the HP thing if he gets into the right groove of doing independent films. He isn't an established actor, so he has the chance to do some roles that would alter the perception of him, if he does it right. Emma Watson has no hope. She just isn't an actress. And she's not turning out as pretty as I thought she would. She was cuter as a kid.

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It's a shame that the Dumbledore character had to die at this juncture in the movie to follow the books because I also was just starting to accept Gambon as a viable Dumbledore.

I'd give it 3 out of 4 stars and I am really interested in seeing what they do with the 7th movie given what happened in the book. There was a lot of time in the 7th book that was filled with just purely, Harry, Ron and Hermione looking for the horcruxes and I can't imagine them devoting that much of the movie to the search as to the end result.


Spot on there, and I think since they are going for 2 movies in the finale, it does give a chance for the characters to breathe. I've heard the director wants to make the first movie about the characters and the second one about the war. I think that's nice, but you're going to have to keep it interesting at least even if you're going for character development. Plus like you said, most of the book is a search-and-destroy adventure story that climaxes in a "battle". Maybe they play with some back story about Snape, I'd really like to see that.


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