I understand the whole thing about how its the job of the reporters to write stories relevant and interesting to their assigned topic. The way some reporters are treating Josh Hamilton is just not cool though. Everyone knows the story and his entire background. So, it comes forward that he had some drinks in tempe, az one night during his offseason workouts. He apparently had a good, from what it looks, fun and normal time for someone his age. The man is obviously an addict and he has come a long ways to achieve some pretty special things in just a few years. He had a setback, it sucks and he knows it, and it happened in January. Therefore, someone reporting on August 8th that he has fallen off the wagon is fucked up. This happened 9 months ago. An addict struggles with these things on a daily basis. This information was known to those around him once it had happened. What good can come from this story, the way they are posting it. When I first saw the yahoo link it made me think he had just relapsed. Then, after reading all of the info I realized that this was a 1 night deal that happened in January and one that Josh is not happy about. IDK, i just think that it is bullshit to post a story like the yahoo sports one. It is not relevant to anything current and is only a way to attract some eyes to look at some billboards. I just think the way they went about this was lame.

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Screw him!
Did you ever hear him talk about being born again?
He's one of the people who screwed up the entire continent of Africa.
I'd rather have child molesters and mass murderers on my team than Josh Hamilton.
Right shakes?

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i'm sure it happened just that one time and will never happen again.

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Pretty impossible to simply ignore photos like those when just about every media outlet followed how 'great' his story was. If they are going to cover the good, they need to cover the bad.

He can keep that born again shit to himself because I don't want to hear a word of it either. Aside from that the only thing I am saying is that this happened 8 months ago and they are acting like it happened yesterday. The GM new about it 8 months ago yet he has to have a press conference. They are also drawing conclusions between this incident and his performance this season and bringing up possible punishment or reprimands from this.

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Media M.O.

Find a feel-good story and play the hell out of it...

Then, when that feel-good story goes bad, play the hell out of it some more...

That way, when the good story gone bad turns good again, they can play it even more...

One of the coolest things about being a professional athlete must be that you can take your shirt of in a bar and you don't get thrown out.

Oh what I'd give to be able to do that.

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Something like 90% of people fall off the wagon. It was to be expected. If he gets back to being sober, I have no problem with a person who occasionally fails for a remote instance...but there is not way he stayed faithfull to his wife that night.

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This is one of the problems with faith based healing and proclaiming that your personal relationship with Jesus procludes you from making these kind of mistakes. He should have kept his faith quiet and not presented a huge target to all those who look at people of a religious background as hypocrites. The thing about proclaiming your religion is you better make damn sure that you never take a wrong step and for sure that it never be in public because you are going to be the poster child for everything that is wrong about religion to all who don't believe.

It gives a bad name to those who try to live their life in a religious manner - it's human nature to make mistakes in judgment, rationale, etc. It just makes it that much harder to have credibility when things like this happen.

Josh made a mistake by drinking, but his even larger mistake was thinking that he was bulletproof against the disease and immune to its draw. We all fail at times; the important thing now is getting back on the wagon and receiving the right amount of mentoring, sponsoring or whatever it is he needs to do to get back on the right path.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Why does the Jebus thing bother everyone so much?

I dont care for Jebus Freaks but I just tune em out when they start talking.

If the guy wants to say his sobriety is protected by God, Satan, The Shwartz or Mr. Ed who cares?


Anyways its not surprising and it probably wont be his last fall.
I wish him good luck.

Divorce lawyers have to be salivating over his wife right now.

RBP - I am not a Christian, nor do I claim to be, but was brainwashed as a yute by the Pentecostals to the point where I felt that if I even looked at a girl longingly it was a sin. So I can understand the high moral ground that they are asked to live on and every failure - Jim Baker, Falwell, etc. just brings negative light to their plight.

Part of the problem is the Christians that go out of their way to have their Christian lifestyle noticed and hide the fact that they fail just like the rest of us and then they get caught - drinking at a bar, cheating on their wife, etc - and then it's a whole rock in glass house effect.

I agree with you - it's not surprising. I'm only surprised that it took this long for him to fall. It happens to everyone at one point or another.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Read carefully - I didn't say ALL - I said the problem are the ones that go out of their way to have their lifestyle noticed - certainly not all Christians do this.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Just because someone believes in God doesn't mean that they are perfect & cant fail.
We all fail, Christians, Jews, Athiests, whatever. God & Religion played a big part in Hamiltons recovery. It gave him something to believe him & helped him believe in himself.
Don't hold that against him.
What B&B did to Hamilton yesterday was disgusting.

I missed the majority of the show yesterday, but from what I heard, Bernstein was saying in essence, "Don't say God is responsible for healing you, because if you fall off the wagon again... it makes you, God, and everyone who listened to you speak about... look stupid. He clearly stated he doesn't care if Josh believes in God, but that he just doesn't see the benefit of parading around the fact that God healed you... especially when it can backfire like it did.

Im not going to lampoon Josh Hamilton because I think what he has gone through is not easy to defeat, but if you claim god is responsible for curing you, wouldn't god also be responsible for your relapse?

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Yea, that's what I meant. Thanks for the assist.

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(Jk)

So God is only responsible for good things that happen to people?

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Yea, but you need to answer that question.


A rehab center takes someone in and releases them. God is supposed to be with you (in you?) at all times. It's different, very different.

This is the point I was making. When you parade your Christianity and act as if you are bulletproof, when you fall, because everyone does at one point or another, people like B & B are going to call you out for your faith and your fall from grace.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Hamilton has never claimed to be "bulletproof". He is actually a very humble Man. Why do you think that he thinks he is bulletproof? Most Christians, Hamilton included, acknowledge that Humans are weak & his faith gives him strength to stay sober.
If you dont believe in God, then why would you believe that it is Gods fault that Josh fell off the wagon? Doesnt make sense.

I think HUGE is right. The religion haters pounce on stuff like this. I dont think Hamilton ever acted bulletproof...quite the opposite...didnt he famously carry no cash on him so he coulndt buy drugs...doesnt sound like a guy who thought he was bulletproofed by God.

Hamilton was interviewed a lot and talked about Jesus a lot.
I have no problem with that.

The ones who try and force their beliefs on you are annoying...to me this isnt.

Because as Boers and Bernstein stated yesterday, Hamilton claimed to have been "healed by faith" of the disease of alcoholism. If you as a Christian claim to be "healed" of anything, you are in essence saying that you have overcome the disease by miraculous and God like intervention. When you then fail, it makes the fall all the more precipitous.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Really? Come on. We're not saying we ACTUALLY believe God caused him fall off the wagon, John. We're merely pointing out the hypocrisy of believing God was responsible for healing him, but not when he messed up.

If this is the case, then what Boers and Bernstein stated yesterday was either factually incorrect or out and out false. They stated that Hamilton on more than one occasion has claimed to be healed by faith and immune to the lures of the disease. This is slightly paraphrased from memory, but the general message was that Hamilton has taken this stance.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

He DID say he was healed by Jesus...which doesnt bother me.

but the no money in the pocket thing kinda debunks the bulletproff theory.



Anyways the point all you guys are missing is this...

This fuckn guy knows how to party!!
He's fuckn posing for pictures openly asking people where to score "the master"
If your gonna fall...may as well enjoy it.

RPB - I'll give you that - if you are going to fall, fall hard.

And he certainly could have done worse than the chicks that he fell from grace with.

Mercy...

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

I never said I do not believe in God, nor did I ridicule anyone here in this thread. I am just stating the obvious. If God is responsible for Josh Hamilton getting clean, he is also resposible for his relapse. God can't be responsible for only the good in this world. It sounds like you are just brown-nosing him/her just a bit too much.

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