But damn, Orton was so fuckin Orton, you know what I mean? It's not bad football, it's just not good football. 12/16 97y 0TD. That's a classic Orton halftime line.

I enjoyed watching Orton play for a different team. He was slightly serviceable here...but man that guys feet arent even happy he's got "High on Ecstasy Feet"
Bad.

I don't know what that means. Cutler moves his feet more than Orton.

The difference is that Cutler is better at throwing the football and can get away better with falling backwards while throwing the ball.

That's an average QB in the NFL..

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

196 yards with no TD's is average in the NFL for a full game?

On Basanez' two completions he held in the pocket and had some nice throws (to wide open receivers).

I didn't say it was an average game. I said he's an average QB. Not good, not terrible.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Am I the only one that believes there may be another QB issue in Denver? The rookie looked better than Orton.

Cornerback had deep contain to the outside. Because of that, the route had to clown to the middle of the field, and the underneath man becomes the primary receiver. Even that's kind of deceptive, because if the cornerback kept deep outside contain then the instruction is not actually to check down, but to throw the damn ball away. It's basically a one-read route for both receiver and "QB". He was fine there.

WRs are explicitly told on gimmick plays such as that to just run the route. They're not supposed to break it off or run scramble drills or anything like that. Coaches don't want the RB having to make decisions as to where to go with the ball. Hester is supposed to hit the back corner of the end zone if it is vacated, and if not, the play is dead.

Orton will not end the season as the starter.

Collinsworth said Cutler was doing a three way with Olsen and his wife.

what happened to chris simms?

Hurt his ankle in preseason game 2. out 3-4 weeks

The more I think about it, the dumber the Broncos look.

Orton is a free agent after this season. If he's even serviceable there he's going to bolt for another team without the drama around it. If he's bad, then he's gone anyways and the team has no viable other option besides drafting a rookie with a likely high draft pick. If he's good, he's still a free agent and if I was Orton I'd want to be overpaid greatly for dealing with the situation in Denver.

The Broncos should have given Orton an extension as soon as the trade happened. It wouldn't have been that expensive and they could have avoided the situation that pretty much whatever happens they lose any competent QB next year or put all there hopes on Kyle Orton who isn't a long term solution.

Even though Orlando Pace had a devil of a time trying to protect Jay Cutler's blindside last night, I thought Cutler overcame the vicious boos from the INVESCO Field crowd very nicely in the first half that he played in what's supposed to be the most important of the preseason games. I thought head coach Lovie Smith did the smart thing in yanking Cutler & Matt Forte for the second half, and I wouldn't be shocked if Caleb Hanie gets the start in Thursday's preseason finale vs. the Kevin James-looking Eric Mangini and a Browns' team you'd think would have its own QB squared away with Brady Quinn starting...

The more I think about it, the dumber the Broncos look.

Maybe they will offer the Bears Orton, 2 firsts, and a third pick. I hope Jerry doesn't go for it.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Maybe they will offer the Bears Orton, 2 firsts, and a third pick. I hope Jerry doesn't go for it.

dolphin, Denver traded their 2010 first round selection to the Seahawks for their second round pick (37th overall). The only first round they have next year is the one the Bears get. I'm hoping it is the 32nd.