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You can call Vasher, toast.

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Why is Lovie trading a timeout for a sure-to-lose review which makes no difference as to what the Bears need to do to win?


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Oops, final 2 minutes, reviews are automatic. :oops:


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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Why is Lovie trading a timeout for a sure-to-lose review which makes no difference as to what the Bears need to do to win?




Didn't Lovie already burn all his TO's already with sure-to-lose reviews earlier in the half?


He really is a horseshit coach, should've been fired a long time ago.

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God I love seeing the dope look on his face. Whats the chances of him calling out someone in the postgame?

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My sperm could out-coach Lovie...

Oh and Jay: Green is bad, White is good. Next week we'll go over why you shouldn't throw across your body...

Wolfe/vasher= :pukel: :weelchairbb: :thumbdown:

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Lovie Smith can't possibly think that Nathan Vasher is really a starting corner. Vasher cant run anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Bears lose 2 starting LB's and the Pack makes one great play in the 2nd half and win. After 1 game,Cutler=Grossman. The Bears last visit in the red zone was heavy on the run. The coaching staff must know Cutler gets the "yips" in the Red Zone. I know this was an aberration. Lets judge him after 16 games,not one. I would have liked more dump passes to the HB myself.

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NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Why is Lovie trading a timeout for a sure-to-lose review which makes no difference as to what the Bears need to do to win?




Didn't Lovie already burn all his TO's already with sure-to-lose reviews earlier in the half?


He really is a horseshit coach, should've been fired a long time ago.



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Chris_in_joliet wrote:
shakes wrote:
NearWessSideHussra wrote:
Why is Lovie trading a timeout for a sure-to-lose review which makes no difference as to what the Bears need to do to win?




Didn't Lovie already burn all his TO's already with sure-to-lose reviews earlier in the half?


He really is a horseshit coach, should've been fired a long time ago.



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Lovie is the worst Coach that I have ever seen in the last 2 minutes of a game. His clock & timeout management is just awful.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Lovie is the worst Coach that I have ever seen in the last 2 minutes of a game. His clock & timeout management is just awful.


We hardly had the ball in the last 2 mins of this game, Cutler threw an INT on the first play we had the ball. Lovie maybe be bad in the last 2 mins, but that is not something you can be mad about after this game.

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On the bright side, we were able to run a successful QB sneak! 8)

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Cutler looked horrible,plain and simple. I don't want to hear they haven't played much together.Putting up one tuddie isn't going to win you many games. Where inthe fuck was Olsen? Urlacher out,I think this is starting to unravel much faster than anyone thought!

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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I know this is the first game, but from the "eye test" this offense w/ QB included is awful. This GB team did not impress me and that game was for the taking.

This team really could start the season 0-3. Pittsburgh will slaughter the Bears at home.

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Lovie Smith can't possibly think that Nathan Vasher is really a starting corner. Vasher cant run anymore.

Vasher has no business being in there unless he's the only option. I'll give him credit for making the one nice tackle, but he showed you why you can't have him on the field: he's a constant threat to get you beat for a big play. The coaching staff is fucking retarded for having him on the field.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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He really is a horseshit coach, should've been fired a long time ago.


Called a hell of a defensive game, but no, he is nowhere near HC talent. And this shit has been going on for as long as he has been here. It is amazing that people are not all over this guy. It is nothing new. Same shit year after year, and he gets a pass. Strike that, he gets an extension.

Lovie is a D-coordinator. He cannot run a team. And his captain obvious, blazay attitude, was tired, years ago. He can oversee adjustments at the half, but not in-game. And those halftime adjustments, are typically, only effective for one or two possessions. Unless we are facing an equally inept coaching staff.


And add Ron Turner to that list. I think the guy does have obvious play calling talent. But somewhere along the line, it gets lost in the storm of BS. And whether that is on Lovie's shoulders, or Turner's alone, we simply cannot know. The going away from, or even, the inability to plug in anything that looks remotely like a gameplan, is a slap in the face. And again, it has been happening for too long. It is downright pathetic.

Despite Cutler's apparent brain farts, it really is hard to pin it on him. It is pretty obvious this is a tale of two halves.

During the first half, the guy is under almost constant pressure, while dealing with WRs who cannot get open, or who simply quit on their routes (and that is another thing that has been going on for 2-3 years, that hasn't been mentioned). So the guy forces things, which we know he does, even before he got on the plane to chicago. Don't get me wrong, he made some god-awful decisions, but when surrounded with such mediocrity, it becomes contagious.

We could have pretty much scraped the bottom of the barrel in FA, and brought in better talent at WR. They should have invited numerous FA WRs.

And despite the notion that the Cardinals were not going to trade Boldin, despite teams being told he was available, and making offers, how don't you get that done? You cannot draft for shit. So pony up whatever it took in picks, and whatever else. The writing is on the wall in Arizona. Same shit as last year. Boldin ended with 2 catches yesterday, and is already bitching on the sideline. I give it till week 8 before it becomes public. How Arizona thinks they needed him, despite their cap concerns, is beyond me. Breaston is a fine #2.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Why are people still blaming Lovie for games like this? I thought it was pretty obvious that the players, not coaches, lost this game for the Bears. Sure, Lovie made a couple questionable challenges in the game, but those are pretty much moot points when your QB throws 4 picks.


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At least Mckie was solid, one of the best FB in the league you know...

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I'd put most of the blame on Cutler, Omyale, and the wr/tes. However this team was unprepared last night and lacks a cohesiveness that well coached teams have.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Pretty horrible game for our offense. While there were a couple bright spots, there were only a couple. And this goes for Jay Cutler, who made a boatload of poor judgments and was constantly hurrying throws when he didn't have to. Our WR's and Cutler were not on the same page, which Collinsworth, who seems to know what he's talking about, was prepared to put mostly on the shoulders of inexperienced WR's making poor reads. Our OL was lost from Dom Capers blitzing scheme, which is just going to get worse next week against Pittsburgh. Especially Omiyale who was devastated in every aspect of a football game up front. He was tossed around like a rag doll. And what about our dropped balls? We had at least a half dozen catchable balls that were dropped. Or our horrible offensive gameplan. Why didn't we attempt to throw to Forte? Why did we abandon the run in the 1st half when Cutler started to feel rushed and struggled?

On special teams, what the hell was Mannelly thinking? So what if they had 12 in the huddle. If you aren't prepared to make sure there are 12 on the field when you snap it, it doesn't do anybody any good. Huge mental breakdown at a crucial moment in the game.

On Defense, I'm pretty sure the Nathan Vasher watch has begun. Will Bowman start this week or next? Vasher was horrible. He allowed everything underneath all night so as to not give up the big play, and then he gave up the big play at the very worst moment, getting beat by 10 yards. Vasher has lost the speed and agility that made him an elite CB as a young player. Not sure if its due to injuries or what, but he's an undersized CB who is lumbering around out there like a quick LB. Not a guy who can be manning up on anybody anymore.

Ultimately, solid Defensive play. Horrible Offensive play. You won't turn the ball over that many times in a game and win many games in the NFL.


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Why didn't we attempt to throw to Forte? Why did we abandon the run in the 1st half when Cutler started to feel rushed and struggled?


Ron Turner is a boob.


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Again, the coaches cannot be blamed for last night's debacle. Ron Turner isn't throwing passes, and Lovie smith isn't running incorrect routes.

If anything, the blame should be mostly on Cutler and the O-line.


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Cutler is a good quarterback and has potential to be great, but one of the things people would brag about was his ability to throw on the run, but last night, even though he was running his ass off, his decision making on the run was far-less impressive than his decision making in the pocket...

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Ron Turner is calling shitty plays. I do think the coaches are to blame for lack of preparedness. Not totally but do you think all the brain farts that occurred last night would occurr on a well coached team? Why can't they develop the talent they have?


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This is why I love Bear fans. One game goes badly and everyone immediately breaks out the torches and pitchforks for Lovie and his coaches. "This wouldn't have happened on a well-coached team"? Seriously? So every time a team plays poorly, they immediately become "poorly coached".


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Really? This team looked prepared to you?


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Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote:
If anything, the blame should be mostly on Cutler and the O-line.

Yeah, I really hope no one is giving the O-line a pass; obviously Cutler was steaming shit, but when you look at the 3 plays where he actually had more than a quarter second to throw the ball, he threw it well. There's never any excuse for 4 picks in a game, but that said, no quarterback will look good under that kind of pressure.

Perhaps the most irritating of all was when the coaching staff inexplicably had Wolfe in at the end of the first half, and the Packers linebacker jumped over that fucking midget.

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Really? This team looked prepared to you?


How could they not be? This is their 5th game. Preseason means nothing? Poor preparation doesn't mean that receivers will stop running routes or the offensive line will get manhandled off the snap each play. Chicago knew that Green Bay was going to blitz almost every single down, and I am going to assume that was probably mentioned in practice at least once.

Here's a thought: maybe the Bears aren't good? :scratch:


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Williams got better as the game went on. Pace did okay. Omiyale was terrible.


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Offensive line is a talent problem.

I really think the wr/te problem is a coaching issue. They aren't great talent wise but there should be enough there to be more productive than they were last night.


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