How could they not be? This is their 5th game. Preseason means nothing? Poor preparation doesn't mean that receivers will stop running routes or the offensive line will get manhandled off the snap each play. Chicago knew that Green Bay was going to blitz almost every single down, and I am going to assume that was probably mentioned in practice at least once.

Here's a thought: maybe the Bears aren't good?

Williams got better as the game went on. Pace did okay. Omiyale was terrible.

Offensive line is a talent problem.

I really think the wr/te problem is a coaching issue. They aren't great talent wise but there should be enough there to be more productive than they were last night.

Oh, and I can't believe I forgot to mention this, but I think that the fake punt was the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a football field. If that call ended up being Lovie's, I'd be calling for his immediate dismissal. Being that it was apparently Mannely, I don't know what you do.

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0-2 going to Seattle, get a nice little win, Detroit at home, get a nice little win, 2-2 heading into bye week...

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Hub has discussed the Bears coaches numerous times on the Score, & the fact that the Bears have the worst assistant coaches in the NFL. Well, the Bears also have the worst head coach in the NFL. Lovie is in over his head.

These head coaches are available:

1, Bill Cowher
2, Jon Gruden
3. Mike Shanahan

Who wouldnt be thrilled with either of these 3?

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I would have to assume that was a player judgment call on a play with an option. Mannely very obviously points to Wolfe (who very obviously doesn't see the gesture) and then snaps the ball right into Wolfe's stomach. To be honest, I was surprised he got as many yards as he did.

Yeah, considering he was utterly taken by surprise (which, given the situation, makes sense), it's a bloody fucking miracle he caught the snap.

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Omiyale was a doormat.
Dez Clark, run a fucking route! Are you too old to run to the corner of the end zone?
Cutler, mistakes a plenty, but some nice plays too.
Mannely, nice call douchebag.
Hester isnt as bad as a lot thought.
Earl Bennett looked good.
To all the assholes (yes, you John Kirk) that thinks Urlacher is worthless, be careful what you wish for.
Overcoming 3 early picks, getting no turnovers and having Vasher on field and still a close game. D played well.
Oh and Aaron Rodgers is not Joe Montana, can the ESPN jerk offs see that now??

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Jay Cutler's biggest problem has always been his consistency. He can fill a highlight tape while not really playing all that well. If he is to be considered a franchise QB he needs to be more consistent even if it results in less big plays. There is a reason Cutler was third in yards last year but threw less touchdowns and more interceptions than most other "franchise QBs". We saw it last night. He had good yardage numbers but no one would say that he played a good game. His td pass to Hester was awesome.

If the goal of this season is to look toward the future of a Jay Cutler Super Bowl winner then that is what I need to see. He could be an amazing QB but his combination of great play and then poor play will ultimately lead the Bears to get bested by more consistent QB's. That is what happened last night. Aaron Rodgers, who didn't play great, was average. It will be great when Cutler wins a game for us with his arm but he can't lose them for us either. That is what a franchise QB does.

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It's perfectly reasonable to question the game planning. Of course, the players have to execute what is called, but the game plan is fair game.

I think everyone should step off the fucking ledge.

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With regards to last night's game and Cutler I agree.


But Hunter Hillenmeyer starting MLB does have me walking toward the ledge

Yeah, but your defense just held the Packers to 13 points or so (the first TD was after they got the ball on the 3). Besides, I've been reading on this board for years now how overrated Urlacher is. So it should be no big deal, at least to those people, right?

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Yeah, but the Packers started a right tackle who doesn't belong in the NFL, which explains Ogunleye's success rushing the qb. The rest of the defensive line was invisible on the pass rush. Tommie Harris may very well be done.

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Beating Seattle is a given? I think quite the contrary is true. They are a fairly good team, and even before the injuries to the beloved, I would have judged them to be as good as the Bears (in a closed-comparison only between the two). Now, I would think the middle of the field will be a sieve, something Seattle (and many other teams) are just going to attack, attack, attack until they're stopped ... at which point they'll just throw to whoever is on Vasher.

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Urlacher works up a lot of emotion in Bear fans for a variety of reasons...Even the biggest moron would admit even in a subpar year 54 is very good.

You are under the impression that Bears fans are unique in this regard?

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That may be true, but the strength we have at linebacker is almost gone and our secondary is in bad shape. I don't know how it wasn't taken advantage of more. Rodgers really failed to take advantage.

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Still taking Peyton Manning over Rodgers.

Right, but there were a lot of "failed to take advantage" plays on the other side as well. The screen pass INT was the play after Clark quit running on a route that would have been a TD. Even on the screen pass INT, that's a bit of a flukish thing; DE sticks his hand out at the last second and it kind of sticks. Worst case scenario there usually is an incomplete pass and three points. Red zone offense was bad; those things tend to regress towards the mean, although inside running is going to be tough all year with Garza and Omeyale.

I watched the Vikings, Packers, and Bears yesterday. All three teams have some grave concerns.

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Yeah, and Brady and Brees too!

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I think that the Seahawks might be a decent team, but their competition in the NFC west is usually so soft that they are hard to judge. I Don't like their coach the running backs or their wide receivers. I think that the bears pass defense is soft, but I think that they can shut down Seattle. And who knows, maybe by that game Vasher will be cut...

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Omeyale will likely be benched in favor of Beekman by the end of the Bye Week.

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I certainly hope so.

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Not at all.

Jay Cutler looked very out of rhythm vs. Dom Capers' 3-4 defense last night for the most part last night in Green Bay, and could've thrown as many as 7 interceptions the way he was carelessly throwing it in the first half. The running game never found its footing, and where were the tight ends in last night's game? I thought Greg Olsen was going to be to the Bears what Jason Witten is to the Cowboys...Meanwhile, the defense got 4 sacks, including a safety vs. Aaron Rodgers. Yet Rodgers threw the winning TD to Greg Jennings and Nathan Vasher stumbled miserably...

The only thing that really pissed me off about last night was that I saw that redhead fuck Zack Zaidman twice on national tv with that stupid shit eating grin he always has.

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I saw Zach with the headphones on as the camera panned the Bear sideline as well...I don't think he has that grin on his face today, Douchebag...

What's w/ the Z2 hate? Am I missing something?

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