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I will elaborate on this. I have no doubt there are real passionate Cub fans who truly love baseball and don't go to the ballpark simply to get wasted. But sometimes, I really hate the fanbase. Nothing makes me more sick than to see all the different books about the Cubs... talking about how we all suffer and yet, the memories of being a Cub fan are special and how special of a team the Cubs are. None of that made any sense to me. I maybe own one or two Cub books, both of which were gifts. I would never spend a dime of my own money to read a bunch of crap about a team that does not have much history worth celebrating or remembering. Sometimes, the whole "Cubbies" comes across as just plain dorky and it makes me sick.


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I would say this team, specifically Milton Bradley, amde it the most unlikeable team I have ever seen. Even with as much as was written about him, I still think it was underestimated what a bad influence this guy had on the team.

It's one thing to suck, like Milton did, but to actually blame everyone else for everything bad you did, makes me want to hate you and thus had no interest in showing up to any games. Even the ones Milton wasn't at.

This season felt like a carryover from the '08 playoffs, thus no real highlight. Even the 39 hours in first place.

And "The Drunken Frat Boy" legend is true for the bleachers, but that is what the bleachers are, a big bar. Remember you need to get there at 10 AM to get a bench spot for a 1:20 game, and your beer is 25% off befor 12.

So you have 6,000 people going to the game and drinking in the sun for 3 hours before a game starts and someone is shocked they are drunk?

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I would say this team, specifically Milton Bradley, amde it the most unlikeable team I have ever seen.

2004 was much more unlikeable. I had zero expectations going into this season, and im not shocked they missed the playoffs. Did you actually think this team was going to be as good or better than last year? They were swept out of the first round last year, I wasn't expecting anything better than that, and the outcome is about right on par with how I saw it ending.

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2004 Cubs=Most Unlikeable team in any sport ever for me


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 Post subject: Re: ASHAMED
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2004 the most unlikeable, with 2009 right behind. At least this year's team didn't bother to call the announcers complaining about how critical they are.

Bradley was a cancer. To state that he is the main reason though, I don't buy. The team was flawed all-round... Bradley personified bad, however, and with his piss-poor attitude, he became the easy foil for Cub fans.

I would wish nothing more than for the magic cure-all for be to rid Bradley, and have the team play at the level of 2008, prior to the playoffs. It just isn't a reality.


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bigfan wrote:
I would say this team, specifically Milton Bradley, amde it the most unlikeable team I have ever seen. Even with as much as was written about him, I still think it was underestimated what a bad influence this guy had on the team.

It's one thing to suck, like Milton did, but to actually blame everyone else for everything bad you did, makes me want to hate you and thus had no interest in showing up to any games. Even the ones Milton wasn't at.

This season felt like a carryover from the '08 playoffs, thus no real highlight. Even the 39 hours in first place.


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Martin wrote:
2004 the most unlikeable, with 2009 right behind. At least this year's team didn't bother to call the announcers complaining about how critical they are.

Bradley was a cancer. To state that he is the main reason though, I don't buy. The team was flawed all-round... Bradley personified bad, however, and with his piss-poor attitude, he became the easy foil for Cub fans.

I would wish nothing more than for the magic cure-all for be to rid Bradley, and have the team play at the level of 2008, prior to the playoffs. It just isn't a reality.


As much as you may not have liked the 2004 team, you watched them until the last week, that I am sure of. I couldnt watch the 2009 version past June.

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Martin wrote:
2004 the most unlikeable, with 2009 right behind. At least this year's team didn't bother to call the announcers complaining about how critical they are.

Bradley was a cancer. To state that he is the main reason though, I don't buy. The team was flawed all-round... Bradley personified bad, however, and with his piss-poor attitude, he became the easy foil for Cub fans.

I would wish nothing more than for the magic cure-all for be to rid Bradley, and have the team play at the level of 2008, prior to the playoffs. It just isn't a reality.


As much as you may not have liked the 2004 team, you watched them until the last week, that I am sure of. I couldnt watch the 2009 version past June.

Some would say that supports 2004 as the worse year.

Nobody choked harder than the cubs that last two weeks in reagards to the way they did it...1 run games, extra inning games, Awesome starts wasted by a bullpen. Losing to the inferior Mets and Reds...Bad


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 Post subject: Re: ASHAMED
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The 2009 team played shitty, which is why they were unlikeable (sans Zambrano and Bradley)

The 2004 team played shitty when it mattered most, but they were unlikeable largely because they were douchebags: Z + Bradley x25.

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bigfan wrote:
I would say this team, specifically Milton Bradley, amde it the most unlikeable team I have ever seen. Even with as much as was written about him, I still think it was underestimated what a bad influence this guy had on the team.

It's one thing to suck, like Milton did, but to actually blame everyone else for everything bad you did, makes me want to hate you and thus had no interest in showing up to any games. Even the ones Milton wasn't at.

This season felt like a carryover from the '08 playoffs, thus no real highlight. Even the 39 hours in first place.

And "The Drunken Frat Boy" legend is true for the bleachers, but that is what the bleachers are, a big bar. Remember you need to get there at 10 AM to get a bench spot for a 1:20 game, and your beer is 25% off befor 12.

So you have 6,000 people going to the game and drinking in the sun for 3 hours before a game starts and someone is shocked they are drunk?


Really good points about Milton Bradley and the bleachers. I think getting him off this team will be a huge addition, by subtraction. They HAVE to make that the #1 priority and make it happen quickly, onw way or another.

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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
bigfan wrote:
I would say this team, specifically Milton Bradley, amde it the most unlikeable team I have ever seen. Even with as much as was written about him, I still think it was underestimated what a bad influence this guy had on the team.

It's one thing to suck, like Milton did, but to actually blame everyone else for everything bad you did, makes me want to hate you and thus had no interest in showing up to any games. Even the ones Milton wasn't at.

This season felt like a carryover from the '08 playoffs, thus no real highlight. Even the 39 hours in first place.

And "The Drunken Frat Boy" legend is true for the bleachers, but that is what the bleachers are, a big bar. Remember you need to get there at 10 AM to get a bench spot for a 1:20 game, and your beer is 25% off befor 12.

So you have 6,000 people going to the game and drinking in the sun for 3 hours before a game starts and someone is shocked they are drunk?


Really good points about Milton Bradley and the bleachers. I think getting him off this team will be a huge addition, by subtraction. They HAVE to make that the #1 priority and make it happen quickly, onw way or another.


With the way Kap was talking on WGN Radio tonight, it sounds like there are teams willing to take him. That sounds encouraging, even if the Cubs do end up eating some of the money.


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 Post subject: Re: ASHAMED
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Could it be these people bought the tickets back in May or even sooner and didn't want to throw the money down the toilet?

And only a scumbag would boo the nights performance if it's good.


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Let's be honest here....the White Sox fanbase does not consist of tourists and fans of opposing teams coming here in the Summer months to get blasted in the neighborhood and pay homage to The Shrine.

The Sox fanbase does not consist of a lot of recent college grad Yuppies who are from somewhere else and look at the Shrine as one big party and care little if the "cutesy Cubbies" win or lose.

White Sox fans took a look at this Kenny Williams Special coming out of Spring Training and were skeptical.....it is not ingrained in us to BELIEVE......I sure as hell don't blame a lot of folks for not showing up to watch THIS PAINFUL team under some "We are great fans" banner.

Nobody romanticizes losing like the Chicago Cubs, but nobody romanticizes frontrunning like the Chicago White Sox. As if there's some moral high ground to ignoring a crappy team, like you're a "discriminating consumer" or something. People who believe that shit can go ride their own dicks.

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After 30 some years as a cub fan i gave up on these mofo's after they laid down last year in the playoffs. enough is enough. think about it, 100 years w/o a championship, and what 60 some without even a WS appearence. Pathetic. I am no longer buying it. It's a tradition of LOSING. There is nothing lovable about that. I ain't a fool no more. I suppose it's like a divorce.

Now if they make the WS I'll root for them. That's for sure, but it won't feel the same. I won't be invested like I would have say if they got in in 84 or 03. It'd be just like another team in the WS i'd pick to root for.

I no longer wear Cubs gear here in even when I go back to visit Chicago. Wearing a cubs hat to me is like replacing the C on the hat with a L, for Loser.


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After 30 some years as a cub fan i gave up on these mofo's after they laid down last year in the playoffs. enough is enough. think about it, 100 years w/o a championship, and what 60 some without even a WS appearence. Pathetic. I am no longer buying it. It's a tradition of LOSING. There is nothing lovable about that. I ain't a fool no more. I suppose it's like a divorce.

Now if they make the WS I'll root for them. That's for sure, but it won't feel the same. I won't be invested like I would have say if they got in in 84 or 03. It'd be just like another team in the WS i'd pick to root for.

I no longer wear Cubs gear here in even when I go back to visit Chicago. Wearing a cubs hat to me is like replacing the C on the hat with a L, for Loser.


You just have to focus that hate on the players and not the Cubs. It's not the franchise's losing history and ineptitude that have resulted in your hatred. It is the continued inability of players to come to Chicago and commit to winning the way they did in 2003. Last year's team also was a bit plagued by injuries; however, I dont think they win the world series even with a healthy aramis and soriano.

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