I think Bradley for Rowand is a good move for the Cubs. Move Fukodome back to right.

It'll be tough on us White Sox fans seeing 33 in Cubbie blue, however.

I think the environment is such here that Bradley's not going to hit his numbers here. In a small outfield like Wrigley, Rowand will be fine.

I'd take Zito or Rowand for Bradley. I don't think Bradley has the type of personality to put everything in the past and pretend like nothing has happened.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Can you imagine Rowand crashing into the bricks at Wrigley?

I am all for this deal. At least B&B will have something else funny to talk about.

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Im in the anybody but Bradley camp. Zito actually had a little bit of a comeback last year and posted some decent numbers. 4.03 ERA and 1.35 WHIP are his best numbers in a couple of years. Compared to Zambrano's 3.77 and 1.38, not as awful as people think.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

I would have traded him and paid 60% of his contract for Getz,Fields

bad contract for bad contract equals going nowhere fast. i dont know the contract status of those other guys, but they all seem pretty done. zito did look better this year. i want bradley gone as much as the next guy, but trading for any of those guys isnt seems pretty "why bother?" to me. now i hear lilly is going to miss a lot of time. pull out the dynamite and blow it up.

which is another reason I don't think having Zito around would be a bad deal. Without Lilly, what do we have to offer from the left side? Marshall has proven to be better in relief.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Right, but it's clear to me that a good amount of this team genuinely dislikes Milton and would be happier if he's not around. With how bad this season was, you have to move this guy for a bad contract just to eliminate as much negative feelings as possible heading into 2010.

The only argument people should make for wanting to keep Bradley is if they believe he'll return to a 2008 form with his old hitting coach and a year in Chicago under his belt. To which I disagree respectfully.







If by a lot of time you mean returning in April. He'll be reevaluated in early January, let's save the doomsday predictions until then.

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Team Cutler.

I hope it's nothing serious. The Cubs previous owners had a cloak and dagger approach to any injuries. We can only hope Ricketts is nothing like the Tribune towers. Bradley can succeed on another team as far as I am concerned. I'd rather take my chances with Zito or Rowland. I just think that Bradley's attitude is going to end up being an issue if they keep him.

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

Agreed.

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Team Cutler.

yeah, i hear what you are saying, but i seriously get depressed thinking that we are actually trading for barry zito. only about what, 8 years late on pulling the trigger on that? i just want to get rid of the expensive "talent" and start over. this "current" team (post 2003) is played out.

you are right though - big salary asshole (bradley) or big salary someone non-asshole, i guess you try to get the big salary non-asshole.

yeah, im sure he will be in top form may 1. never heard that before.

Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

seriously, i could live with that, if the opportunity arose to get some value in return for some of the large-contract guys. does anyone really believe this team is close to a world series still?

You are very close to being right about the played out. I think you have to believe that there is enough talent to at least make one more run at the post season and once you get in who knows what happens.

The only issue with replacing Milton for Zito (which I wouldn't be against, just making convo), is trying to replace the on paper production that his bat brings to the lineup. Our offense was obviously really bad last year, and I don't expect a huge rebound season from Soriano

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Team Cutler.

I get what you are saying and no I don't think we are close to a WS, but you do realize starting over could be very ugly here for a few years. I just don't think most people consider that and if it happens, they will soon be bitching about it.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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I wish they would blow it up RFDC, but all indications are that they aren't and even if they wanted to how could they?

There haven't been any serious takers for Milton. Nobody is going to eat most of Soriano's contract. Zambrano has a no trade. Lee had a great year but is probably on the down side slightly of his career and has a no trade. Dempster signed a huge deal. ARam will be back and put up his normal numbers but I believe he is 32 or 33. No one would want any of our middle infielders.

I don't think Ricketts has any manueverability, but even if he does, he has already indicated that the payroll is going to stay close to the same. I think the hiring of Jaramillo signals that the Cubs will be status quo for 2010 and that they are going to try and work with Soriano and Bradley which I am predicting EPIC FAIL. But what can Ricketts really do otherwise?

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Charlie: Oh shit. Look at that door dude. See that door right there? That door marked 'Pirate'? You think a pirate lives in there?
Dennis: I see a door marked 'Private.'

well, to start, they need to stem the tide and stop SIGNING guys this winter - i mean BIG MONEY guys. stem the tide. wait it out and see how the team starts. if they have no pulse by june, and see if some of the guys such as dempster, lee, ramirez, zambrano generate any interest. zambrano has a no-trade, but he has some teams hed agree to go to, teams with deep pockets. IF you can work out some deals and get some value in terms of young talent in return, they should do it. step one: resist any further damage by not taking on or extending out any more long-term contracts.

Bradley for Rowand works for me. Wrigley has a smallish CF and Rowand would be okay there. Plus he's the antithesis of Bradley...a true team guy that will go all out all the time. Those kinds of guys rub off (the right way) on teammates, just as guys like Bradley ruin teams, with their distractions and selfishness.

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Don't move him to the basement...he'll set the building on fire...

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Bradley is a poor outfielder, Rowand is no gold glover, but he is above average. The biggest thing, is to be rid of Bradley. He's a cancer. He's a distraction and a player who does not produce runs. He never really has. His HR averages and RBI averages are poor.(He had 1 big year in TEXAS-where everyone hits better, and even then his power numbers were not all that good) He has had nice BA and OBP numbers, but when he bats with men on base, he sucks. He takes a lot of walks, so his on-base % is good, but his BA with men on base sucks. Plus, he has a history of frequent stints on the DL. That was about the one bright spot with him this past season...he really spent LESS time on the DL than usual. He will be dumped, I hope sooner, rather than later.

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Why is he a cancer? I have never heard anyone say he was a jerk in the clubhouse. He gave the press some crap,I say "So What". No reason to dump him for nothing. If he is back next season,I bet he will have a big year.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

what makes you bet next year will be a big one? he has never had a big year in his career. in his best years he has missed huge chunks of time due to injury. he has never put together a real good full year.

right after he got suspended i heard comments on the radio by several teammates (theriot was one of them, who had a locker next to bradley apparently) that indicated that the guy was difficult to get along with, and by the end of the year they had stopped trying. i cant remember who the other guys were, but they were veteran players. dempster may have been another, and none of them sounded like they would miss him if he went. they didnt give the standard bullshit answer about how behind closed doors hes a different guy, and how hes actually an ok guy and a good teammate. they all sounded relieved he was gone.

i wouldnt care if he was the most hated man in chicago if he produced. but he was one of the worst players ive ever seen last year in every aspect of his game. he couldnt field his position properly at all. he couldnt hit to save his life. and he pissed off everyone around him. fuck him.

He is usually hurt, makes everyone around him miserable and there is no way he does not let his perception/reality of how he is treated by the fans at Wrigley effect him. He has to go.

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Why is he a cancer??? Because he has the classic ME FIRST attitude. Thats why he allows himself to be such a distraction to the team with his blowups ( not to be confused with Frank Coztanza's dates)-he doesn't care what effect they have on the team. It's why he commits bad baserunning errors and throws the ball into the stands with just 2 outs in the inning-he's not really into the game and doesn't care enough about the team...he just wants to bank coin and ....in case you forgot---doesn't like the fans at Wrigley and his fondest hope each game, is that it goes just 9 innings, so he can leave as soon as possible....he's just a steaming pile of crap. Good riddens...the sooner, the better.

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his teammates obviously hate him. They all chopped him to bits despite the fact that he might still be back next season. I define that as a cancer.

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Change "team" to "board" and "baserunning errors" to "racist rants" and you're describing yourself there.

Why is he [Elmhurst Steve] a cancer??? Because he has the classic ME FIRST attitude. Thats why he allows himself to be such a distraction to the [board] with his blowups ( not to be confused with Frank Coztanza's dates)-he doesn't care what effect they have on the [board]. It's why he commits bad [racist rants] and throws [shit on the board] with just [the possibility of free steak as a reward]-he's not really into the [board] and doesn't care enough about the [posters]...he just wants to bank [attention] and ....in case you forgot---doesn't like the fans at Wrigley [at least the black ones] and his fondest hope each game, is that it goes just 9 innings, so he can leave as soon as possible....he's just a steaming pile of crap. Good riddens...the sooner, the better

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Riddens?