Riddens?

That's Kujoesque.

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3 team deal being discussed. Bradley to the Blue Jays, Overbay to the Mets, and Luis Castillo to the Cubs.

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Bradley Being Discussed In Three-Way Deal
By Howard Megdal [November 9 at 5:55pm CST]
A very interesting idea is being reported by Ken Rosenthal: a three-way deal, with Milton Bradley going to the Blue Jays, Luis Castillo to the Cubs, and Lyle Overbay to the Mets. Rosenthal said "The teams indeed have discussed the framework of such a deal, though not in direct fashion, according to major-league sources."

Breaking it down, the trade makes the most sense for the Mets, who would clear second base for long-coveted Orlando Hudson, a free agent. Overbay has also mashed righties for his entire career - .847 OPS career, .905 in 2009 - and could be paired with Daniel Murphy or Nick Evans for a high-reward platoon.

Castillo does block the movement of Ryan Theriot to second base when Starlin Castro arrives, but adding Castillo's on-base percentage would be a boon to the top of Chicago's lineup.

As for the Blue Jays, the deal would open up first base for Adam Lind, with Bradley slotting in as designated hitter. The question is: Overbay slugged .466 in 2009, while Bradley slugged just .397 - so is this an upgrade?

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Bradley isn't going anywhere via trade. The Cubs CAN'T bring him back. Teams know this. They'll let the Cubs twist in the wind til they give Bradley his unconditional release and some team will get Bradley for the league minimum while the Cubs pay him $10 million a season.

9:01pm: The Chicago Tribune's Paul Sullivan is reporting that Toronto "wants no part of Milton Bradley." Meanwhile, Cubs GM Jim Hendry said that Chicago hasn't given up on Bradley, according to MLB.com's Scott Merkin. Of course, Hendry has to say that until the moment Bradley is traded

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Bradley will be in the Cubs opening day roster, mark my word.

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he *always* plays with a chip on his shoulder.

he will not hit .280 while he's here. i don't care what he says or what his "clubhouse" attitude is; he clearly cannot handle the pressure here.

he proved this by hitting sub-.230 in both his stints in montreal, another fanatical baseball town.

He is also not a RBI guy, clearly miscast as a #5 hitter. He is not a middle of the order run producer.

rangers offering bradley for millwood....

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Done. Do that yesterday.

Seems very unrealistic though

13-10 with a 3.67 ERA pitching in Texas

Milton Bradley at his best is less valuable than that. Also Milton will be 32 at the start of the season and I think he's aging as well (ill have to check that)

You dont know what youre talking about.

Thats just wrong. Plain and simple.
They can replace Bradley with any number of defensive specialists and it would be a HUGE upgrade over last year.
You realize he had 40 RBI in 124 games right?


Bottom Line
Durable Pitcher > Shitty OF




You make this pompous statement and your reasoning is the Cubs need a 32 year old RF that has played over 100 games 4 times in his career and has never had more than 77 RBI

I believe MOST of's in baseball can pass Miltons production. Especially last years production.

Miltons Career year in texas: 22 Hrs 77 RBI...and the offense was ridiculous so the RBI chances were there.

I strongly value starting Pitching Depth

He HAD the team around him in texas and still came thru with a whopping 77

He's never been good. He's always been overrated. Jack of all trades master of none

Soriano in LF is also a massive hole. New ownership should say to Hendry:" You have 2 months to unload these 2 clowns or else your gone!"

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

If theyre dealing for Milwood. They wont be eating Milton's salary.

There are surely of in the cubs system that can produce a 775 ops
Garret Anderson (38) - Type B
Marlon Anderson (36)
Jason Bay (31) - Type A

Marlon Byrd (32) - Type B
Johnny Damon (36) - Type A
David Dellucci (36)

Joey Gathright (28)
Matt Holliday (30) - Type A
Reed Johnson (33)

Wily Mo Pena (28)
Manny Ramirez (38) - $20MM player option - Type A
Dave Roberts (38)

Marcus Thames (33)
Randy Winn (36) - Type


Any of those guys would be fine

I heard on B & B yesterday that the Red Sox aren't in love with Bay. If the Cubs could get Bay I'd like to see it. I just don't see how they can take on the salary given what Ricketts has said.

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And theyre still better. Please post Milton's Prime numbers.

You dont win divsions, leagues, or World series with Milton Bradley on your roster.

I would not make the Milwood deal if they have to pay both contracts.


Decent> Bradley

In OPS he ranked 40th in the NL

Why do you think he's so good?
He's not. Never has been.

Hey Trow,
Thanks for being so elecunt in support of my opinion (and yours)! Take that BigFan!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

First of all your numbers are based on 162 games played and he's never come close to that. So right there your argument fails.

You have him averaging 20 home runs. He has reached 20 exactly ONCE You have him averaging 150 hits HIS CAREER HIGH IS 138

You and I value different statistics. I dont even listen to sports radio anymore. I have watched Bradley for years and he's not good. He's average overall and good at talking pitches. Thats it.
Average overall/good at taking pitches + WAY Injury Prone= Average at best.


I understand not wanting to regurgitate sports radio talking points. But you really need to delve deeper into the stats. Youll see Bradley is average and always has been.


That he's an asshole matters not to me.
That he sucks does matter

This is one of the places your argument is falling a bit short. He's average, at best, hitting from the left side. His numbers last year hitting lefty against a right handed pitcher(no stats on baseball reference hitting lefty vs. a lefty):

291 At Bats
.234 batting average
.379 OBP
.764 OPS
.286 baBIP

Combine that with the fact that he elevates ass hat to never before seen levels and it's easy to see why he has to go. I'm usually not the biggest chemistry guy, winning creates it etc, but he is the exception to the rule.

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.266 avg
.365 OPB
.796 OPS
.312 baBIP

For sure a down year, but his career numbers aren't what you call a good left handed batter. That was the biggest misconception with him being brought in here and it pissed me off to no end.

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It is bad considering the pretense that he was brought in here as. Lou saw a perceived need for a left handed bat/power bat and then Jim goes and bids against himself and brings this guy in. Even if he hit his exact career averages as a lefty next year, it would not be enough for me to justify keeping him on this team.


Overall as a hitter he's fine. But he's bad at defense and average as a lefty.

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Team Cutler.

Let's look at the cubs starting rotation:

Big Dumbass- Head case whose wins, starts and IP have declined the last 3 years.
Dempster- Innings eater. Decent 3rd starter.
Lilliy- coming off shoulder surgery.
Wells- 27 big league starts
Gorzo- couldn't make it in Pittsburgh
Marshall- 4A starter
Samardzija- 4A starter

You sure they're going to be fine starting 4th or 5th guys?? I think they could use at least 1 more reliable starter. Maybe 2.

Agreed with this 100%. I want Shark nowhere near the starting rotation unless he develops another 1-2 pitches. He could potentially be a serviceable 6th/7th inning guy, but at this point his time frame for 'potential' is starting to run out.


Like RPB said, the Bradley for Milwood deal would have been done yesterday.

Z
Lilly
Demp
Milwood
Wells

Not bad at all.

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I am with you KS - that's why I thought Bradley for Zito wasn't as horrible as some were making it out to be.

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Hopefully,Gorzelany,Marshall & the ND guy,too!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Agreed. Especially considering the recent slump.

Isn't it time to stop penciling Zambrano in as a number 1 starter?
Cubs starting pitching wasn't bad last year, but they will need help this year for sure. I would rather see a lefty than another righty but honestly, there's nothing on this team that I wouldn't mind seeing replaced, DL being the only real exception. Or would you give up Lee for some prospects?? Thoughts for another thread.
Milton will be gone, don't think otherwise, so this keep Milton shit is nothing more than a pipe dream.

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