In his best year he hit 24, what in the world makes you think he will get close to 30+? He was awful last year after coming to the Sox. I think good dolphin has hit the nail on the head. They are counting on way too many guys to have bounce back years.

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The absolute worst thing about baseball season is that the brand comes out of the woodwork to call in his asinine thoughts to different radio shows. Om igmore here (thankfully), but sometimes I can't PTFB and I'm forced to listen to his sorry ass.

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So we went from a guy that runs like Peter Pan to a little boy that runs like a kangaroo?

While I'm not a fan of Pierre as an everyday player, I've at least come around on the specifics of the deal. We're paying less than Pods wanted (after the Dodgers paid more than half Pierre's salary) for a better player than Pods.

Kenny did about all you could expect for a $3 million veteran outfielder, but the larger question is why he painted himself into that kind of corner in the first place (Alex Rios signing, anyone)?

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While I sincerely doubt this will happen, I hope nothing more than for you to be right.

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If Rios can hit .280 - 15 - 80 from the lower part of the order, that is more than adequate production from CF. Clearly he is overpaid, but there's not a lot to be done about that now...

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You been drinking that Robitussin again to get rid of a cough? I think you are 10-20 HRs off in your estimate. I see Rios hitting the low 20s and the middle infield hitting the low 40s.

My question about this reinvention...doesn't Getz/Beckham fit this new offense much better than Beckham/Tehan? I would have really liked to see a top of the order with Pierre, Getz and Beckham and then they would have had the money to go after a power hitter with a high BA w RISP.

I keep looking at the possible lineups and wherever I see Teahan, I wish I didn't see Teahan.

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With the lack of power, the Sox really need Rios or Teahen to have a solid year at the plate. There is really no reason that they both can't get 20+ HRs with 81 games in the bandbox that is US Cellular Field

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Following in the footsteps of Grady Sizemore

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I am not critical of all the deals KW makes. Hell, I think he has made some really good moves. But I said when Rios was aquired off waivers, that the people in Toronto were dancing in the streets, to be rid of that guy, with the horribly bloated contract they had given him. I was SHOCKED that Kenny was willing (along with Reinsdorf) to take on 100% of a contract of that size. He has never had more than 24 homers. I think his RBI high was just 84-86. He's not a leadoff hitter, despite his ability to steal some bases, because his OBP is too low....it was a BAD move. This one may be too. But it involved little risk, in that the Dodgers are eating so much of the 2 years left on the deal. NOBODY gives up a really valuable player and eats that much of a contract, unless they came to know, what Cub fans learned when he played for them previously...he's not very good. He's Punch and Judy, with too much Judy and not enough Punch. He has a puss arm and his On-Base % sucks. But he hit .302 last season, so many overlook his low on base percentage. But he can bunt. That may seem like a backhanded compliment, but it's not. This guy is a great bunter. He will be able to not only move a runner along, but squeeze a runner from 3rd in too. I think Ozzie will enjoy that part of his game.

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3 guys hold the success of the 2010 Sox season in their hands.
If CQ, Rios & Floyd perform @ 90% of their 2008 peak level, the Sox will win the central.
If CQ, Rios & Floyd perform @ 110% of their 2009 level, the Sox will be 3rd in the central.

Ozzie always said he'd rather have 8 guys who can hit 15-20 HR's over 5 guys who can hit 30.
Looks like Kenny granted his wish.

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Kenny built this team on pitching and defense so if 3 guys hold the key to the season I would say it's CQ and Beckham adjusting to their new positions and Putz being a shut down closer (I think Jenks is gone).

You mean something like this?
I'll be holding my breath on any shallow pop to right.

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“Mmmm. Move over, eggs. Bacon just got a new best friend - fudge.”

CQ is a natural right fielder.

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That's essentially the same play that Ozzie blew his ACL out a decade + ago.

Great BASEBALL move! I'm sick and tired of station to station baserunning. Pierre doesnt strike out and always steals 40+ bases when playing full time. He's about 66% successful which is better than Pods I think but the ability to get jumps, read OF positioning and arms among other baserunning talents are also way better. Pierre has much more experience in Pennant races and in Big games than Pods too. This team will be able to Hit and Run with just about everyone other than Konerko so that will be refreshing. With the Pitching staff and this lineup, The SOX are to me easily he favs in the Div. remember- Twinkies are outside this year so those little midgets that slap and run around Mauer and Morneau wont be nealry as effective.

Keys-

1-Quentin back to 2008 form

2-Team Defense not giving games away.

3- Middle relief

4- Peavey, Floyd, Denks, Buerhle

The more I think about it, the more and more I like this move. I'm not quite as happy (or ready to say that Rios/Teahen will be studs this year) as Nas is, but I like this move more and more as time goes by. In Kenny I trust.

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We shall remember this in June when you are bitching about this team, especially Pierre.

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I'm not saying the hispanic frenchman is good, but he didn't go 0-4 months when he was with the Cubs. He actually led the NL in hits that year... his OBP wasn't good but still...

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Low risk, high reward. A move for a leadoff guy needed to be made. I may get frustrated if it doesn't work out, but I will not fault KW for making a deal to get his team a legitimate leadoff guy. I have bashed the Cutler trade as much as others?

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He is cheaper then pods, solves the leadoff question, is better defensively and can bunt. Good pickup. Doesn't need to be stellar, just needs to produce.

They will sign a DH, 99 percent chance its going to be a lefty

It's a long season, but this seems to be proving accurate.

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Juan Pierre is not a leadoff hitter, he's not a DH, he's nothing more than a defensive replacement with a bad arm.

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To be fair...he's a good base stealer and a great bunter. Thats about all I really like about him as a player though.

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Pierre is the perfect 4th outfielder. Proved it last year with the Dodgers.

White Sox fans beginning to see the light on this guy yet?? He's a crappy slap hitter, with a low on base %, because he rarely walks. he throws worse than Podsednik....oh yeah Scotty Pods, who I said I would keep...how's he doing?? Last I checked, he was leading the A.L. in hitting. Sox would have been better off just keeping him. I know he had his faults too, but he had occassional pop and was the better overall hitter. If you have not seen the light on this yet, you will.

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That won't last. CLEARLY.

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No, I don't believe it will. But I would bet he ends up with a better batting average and on base % than Pierre.

Don't forget-Pierre went from the N.L. to the A.L and he doesn't know a lot of the pitchers. As I predicted when the trade was made, I think he's back to the bench, prior to the all-star game. Jones Quentin and Rios should be the outfield, with Kotsay as DH. Pierre should only be a fill-in that gives guys a rest every now and then. A 4th outfielder and no more.

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I would take that bet. Come on Steve, what's a wager? A sig? An avatar?

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So the winner, chooses the avatar or signature for the loser? Thats a bit dangerous...I'll agree to it though, because I am certain I'll win.

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