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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:51 pm 
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It was nice to see a movie again. I have not been to the show in about 4 months. I love the big budget stuff. Not much of that from August to December. James Cameron took a bold step forward with Avatar. A lot of the complaints from "fanboys" is that it looks like a video game. I'm afraid I have to agree. There is nothing here you can't see on a 360. Things exploding,weird creatures,etc. It is all here. The story line is nothing original & some of the dialogue must have been taken from a bad comic book. Despite all that it still held my interest and I give the movie 2 & 1/2 stars out of 5. I'm glad I saw it,but not something I sit through 2 times. (Movie length=2hrs. 40 min.)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:06 pm 
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As much as I'd like to see it in 3D at the IMAX, we'll probably wait for the DVD to come out.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:57 am 
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Saw this yesterday during an afternoon of football I could care less about. Went to AMC and saw it with the Real3-D glasses.

Overall, I did like this film. It was a grand scale epic with dazzling special effects, and just amazing to look at. For that, the film lived up to its hype--except I still wouldn't call it "groundbreaking". After "Lord of the Rings", just because you create a race of people and make them CGI doesn't make it groundbreaking. Same thing with the world. In some ways it was too familiar to look at--but it was still breathtaking at times. Because of the 3-D experience, I did feel like I was a part of that world. The colors, the atmosphere, were all very delightful to look at.

But we have seen this movie before, done better. "Bravheart", "Last of the Mohicans", "Dances With Wolves", just to name recent examples. As JP said, the dialog is pretty bad. One thing Cameron doesn't do well is dialog. I sometimes wish he'd hire a screenwriter doctor at least to clean up the clunky dialog that he writes. It's very comic bookish and amateur. As far as storytelling, it's right on the mark. But it's predictable and formulaic as well. There isn't one thing that happens in this movie that you won't see coming from a mile away. The villains establish themselves early, and it's pretty clear Cameron wants you to think about Pilgrims vs. Native Americans and other indigenous injustices all over the world.

It also devolves into a campy action flick toward the end. While I did get caught up in the characters, I still realize there are some real eyeroll inducing ways that Cameron wraps things up. It gets very hokey and if you're a cynic, you'll resent the film for it. The fact that this movie was so overhyped, cynics can lick their chops at how appalling some of the climactic scenes resolve themselves.

But, the film deserves credit for delivering where it matters most--and that's visually. At its best, though, CGI is still CGI. There's really nothing you can do about that. If Cameron thinks he did anything better in this film than previous filmmakers, he's delusional. While some of the slower, softer moments allow for the CGI to really come alive and you can see subtle things the creatures and characters do that are impressive--once the action starts, it's no different than watching, as JP put it, a video game. There's no way you can pixelize real life. I can't say it necessarily looks "fake" but it looks like graphics. Very good graphics, but still graphics.

I don't know why Cameron didn't think he could use actual people for the tribes. The creatures are one thing--and while they look good, they're not all that creative or interesting. But it's not like the tribes are *that* different looking from humans. It just, at times, took away from the drama because you knew these were just computer graphics and not actual people.

There are only a few examples that come to mind when I think CGI has made a world or character look convincing. "Jurassic Park" always comes to mind first. Because Spielberg mixed CGI effects (which at the time were new, and still that movie looks great) with models, it was the perfect blend. And that world *did* come alive. *That* is groundbreaking. Smeagol in "The Lord of the Rings" felt like an actual character alongside *real* people Elijah Wood and Sean Astin. And King Kong in "King Kong" 2005, the eyes alone made that character look real. Now, those last two examples also used a fantastic character actor to help make those characters come alive. But still, if you're going to invest this much money in a movie and have the balls to call it "groundbreaking", then you have to show something better than what I think "Avatar" ultimately did.

It's certainly not a failure--it deserves Oscars for visual effects. But it's not going to "change the way films are made" like Cameron predicted. He accomplished most of what he was looking for.

But he didn't master it.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:39 am 
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Most critical praise I have read so far give him big credit for creating a deep world. In contrast, most critical pans have stated he stole things from others (obviously the script, and things like the floating mountains from the anime Howl's Moving Castle).


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:20 pm 
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Saw it last night - my 1st time in a movie theater in @4 years. :shock:

It's pretty good, like somebody else said, I didn't realize it had been 2 hrs. 45 mins. when it ended. The story is relatively bland and predictable, but I'm not the biggest movie critic. I want to be entertained, and it did that for sure.

I would say that if any of you are even remotely considering seeing this, go see it on the big screen. I don't care what kind of set-up you have at home, it won't do it justice.

BTW - went to see it at the "Gold Class" cinema inn the Promenade/Bolingbrook. That is definitely a whole new way of seeing a show. HUGE oversize recliners, huge drink list, decent food menu. Puts some place like "Hollywood Blvd." to shame........this place is 100% upgrade over that. I suggest going early to enjoy the bar/lounge before entering your movie. The ticket prices at Gold Class reflect the accommodations, however. :shock: :shock:

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^^ how much does that run ya for 2?

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2 tickets for 3d ran me 24 bones.


I'm not a movie snob by any means, but I friggin' loved it. The movie is great, the world they created is unbelievable and the 3D was so flipping cool.


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^^ how much does that run ya for 2?

$25 per seat, $50 per couple. We saw he "2D" version, not sure if there is a higher price for 3D.

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Just saw it last night it was excellent. I like the fact they used a lot of relative unknowns for the roles with a couple of exceptions. Even though it bugged me the entire movie who the actor was playing Jake's friend and where I'd seen him before (It was Joel David Moore who is a recurring actor on Bones).

We saw it at Golf Mill in 3D. Was 12.50 smackaroos a person.


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Good movie. I tried best I could to avoid and reviews to avoid hyper and spoilers, glad I did. I enjoyed the movie for what it was. I did not walk out thinking it was epic but was satisfied with the value of the movie compared to the price. Even if that price was more then usual.


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Finally saw it. Despite all the mega hype, I still enjoyed it. I think it takes a pretty spectacular movie to stand up to that hype machine. Not too many movies can I say that I want more after sitting for 2.5 hours.


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Havent seen it? Anyone have a problem with the ridiculous amount of parrellells to "Pocahontas"?

Ive never seen either but from what I understand its basically Pocahontas with blue people in space


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Havent seen it? Anyone have a problem with the ridiculous amount of parrellells to "Pocahontas"?

Ive never seen either but from what I understand its basically Pocahontas with blue people in space


The wife never made me see Pocahontas so I wouldnt know!

Seriously though I thought this was a great movie and I loved the action and the visuals. The time was a tad too long, but it wasn't like it hurt the movie. 3D is the way to go with this.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Havent seen it? Anyone have a problem with the ridiculous amount of parrellells to "Pocahontas"?

Ive never seen either but from what I understand its basically Pocahontas with blue people in space


Someone sent a link to a page where a guy took the script from Pocahontas and re-wrote "Avatar" on it and changed words. It was pretty funny and yeah there were a lot of similarities.

But to me, it was more similar to Dances With Wolves. Soldier befriends and eventually falls in love with Indian/Alien, tribe/aliens don't accept him, becomes a part of the tribe/race in order to prove his dedication, fights against his former soldiers alongside aliens/indians.

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Finally saw this today...

...absolutely beautiful, both the visuals and audio...if I was trying to sell someone a home theater, this is the movie I would use as a demo...

...that being said, that's really all this felt like to me...nothing more than an instrument for showing off your HDTV and surround sound...I didn't feel any sort of connection to the characters, and I really didn't care how the story ended...

...entertaining, but nothing that I would go out of my way to watch again.


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