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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:52 am 
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If you are Gar, do you even think about making a deal for TMac? His contract is 23M and expires this season. You could look to package up Miller, James and Thomas for McGrady (the money works)


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I'd stay as far away from that as possible, even if it is an expiring contract.

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Great player but he gets injured just suiting up

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Tracy McGrady is a loser. Collectively, I know that's what the Bulls are right now, but I want nothing to do with this guy. He can't stay healthy.

Besides, if the Bulls woo him, how will he be able to throw out a first pitch at Wrigley when Opening Day is months away?


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The only pitch Mcgrady would deliver at Wrigley is with a towel. The guy would need Tommy John surgery after that.

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Since Miller, James and Thomas' contracts all expire anyway (they do, right?), I wouldn't do it.


However, if we sent other contracts that were long term I might consider it. Bulls are all in for 2010, so if there is a way to open up even more cap space I say do it.


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Yes Chris, the deals I put up there are all expiring deals. You could sub Salmons in if you wanted for Tyrus and see what happens. With the emergence of Aaron Brooks, I dont see the Rockets having a need for a Kirk Hinrich.


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yeah with brooks and lowry they dont want kirk. If there was a chance to note deng in this i'd do it

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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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id only take him if they took garbage back. hes an unhealthy douchebag expiring contract or no. id never give them deng for him. fuck that


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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See if they would take Deng and his contract--if Not Salmons-.

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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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I would be terrified of McGrady playing well the second half of the season, getting a ridiculous contract again and then go back to being injured 40 games a year.

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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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I'm not interested in giving up expiring contracts for McGrady's expiring contract.

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Giving away Deng for nothing is meatball dumb. Right now he is their 2nd best player. I wouldn't move him or Noah unless I was getting a stud back. An expiring contract doesn't do it.


It's not for nothing though. The NBA is unique in this aspect. I would certainly trade away Deng and his bad contract for $23 million coming off the books. That lets you give out TWO max contracts this summer, while keeping Noah and Rose in place as very good starters.

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id prefer to keep deng on this team. you cant just dump everyone but rose and noah and bring in chris bosh or joe johnson and expect this team to contend. you need pieces and deng is an important piece. giving him away for an expiring contract doesnt make sense to me.


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They would be able to do the same if they got Hinrich or Salmons off the books. Deng is too valuable to essentially dump for the chance to try to sign 2 guys to max deals. Deng is part of their core along with Rose and Noah. The Bulls shouldn't shake that up unless they got a stud in return.


Well either way I doubt Morey would be dumb enough to take Deng's contract. And he certainly doesnt want Kirk with Brooks and Lowry. I dont think Salmons fits their system all that well either. But if we insist on keeping Deng as part of this core, just know that he is overpaid, a potential liability with the cap declining further by the year.

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If Deng continues to play at this level he is valuable. I see him as a good 3rd option on a championship team. He is young and will likely continue to get better.

yeah probably, if he manages to stay healthy. There's enough holes in his game for improvement. I think he's a good player when healthy, just not worth his contract and not reliable so far

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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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The Houston Rockets may be trying to trade Tracy McGrady, but needless to say, he's injury prone and whose best days are in the scrapbook. I think McGrady should simply call it a career and retire.


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Wouldn't they have to include John Salmons on a deal like that since he's got that option to return next season in his contract that could hurt the Bulls chances of landing a big free agent (if you really think they have a chance)?


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Nas wrote:
Giving away Deng for nothing is meatball dumb. Right now he is their 2nd best player. I wouldn't move him or Noah unless I was getting a stud back. An expiring contract doesn't do it.



Deng is the Bulls 3rd best player--but on a really good team he's on the bench--move him if you get the chance--OVERRATED

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if you can get them to take luol deng's contract you would have more sawbucks for the offseason...say T. mcgrady and scota for deng, miller, and t thomas




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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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should we send benny the bull to pick him up at the airport?


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Nas wrote:
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Giving away Deng for nothing is meatball dumb. Right now he is their 2nd best player. I wouldn't move him or Noah unless I was getting a stud back. An expiring contract doesn't do it.



Deng is the Bulls 3rd best player--but on a really good team he's on the bench--move him if you get the chance--OVERRATED


You're insane. Deng is averaging 18 points and 8 rebounds a game. He is still shooting a high percentage from the field and he has added the 3 point shot to his offensive arsenal. He has been the Bulls best overall player for the majority of the season and somehow you believe he is a bench player.


i agree with this completely. he has improved his game leaps and bounds this season. this is the player the bulls were expecting. and hes still only 24 he might not have even peaked yet. i can understand some skepticism but saying that right now at this point hes their third best player is just plain wrong. him and rose are this teams offense


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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The Bulls courted McGrady as a free agent in the summer of 2000, when then-general manager Jerry Krause met him at O'Hare Airport with a three-piece band, cheerleaders and Benny the Bull. But McGrady chose to sign with the Orlando Magic

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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Didn't really want him 11 years ago.


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 Post subject: Re: McGrady
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Glendale Heights Brian wrote:
See if they would take Deng and his contract

Yikes...

In other news....
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Tracy McGrady joins Chinese team

BEIJING -- Seven-time NBA All-Star Tracy McGrady says he is headed for China to play for the Qingdao DoubleStar Eagles in the Chinese Basketball Association.

The 33-year-old McGrady will be the highest-profile player in the CBA. Because he played with Chinese basketball star Yao Ming during their days with the Houston Rockets, he is well known in China and his contract has been the top news in China's major sports news sites.

A woman who answered the phone Wednesday at the basketball club said she had no information. McGrady's announcement on his website Tuesday did not give terms for the one-year contract. Chinese media reports say the contract is worth at least $1 million.

McGrady said he is excited to play for the Eagles in eastern China and that "it will be an honor" to play for the Chinese people.

McGrady's announcement reads like a farewell to the NBA and he thanks various players, past and present, for educating him.

"I consider myself a student of the game as I have watched, studied and played with and against the best players in the world," McGrady wrote in his blog post. "The NBA was my University and I learned so much. The gratitude I feel is really immeasurable. I have experienced the best moments a player can experience and have had some dark ones too. Both equally important in helping shape me into the man I am today."

He also thanked ESPN's Stephen A. Smith for giving NBA "players a voice."

He played for the Atlanta Hawks last season, but failed to secure an NBA contract for the upcoming season and was considering retirement when he was approached by the management of Qingdao.

McGrady also thanked NBA fans for supporting him.

"Thank you to every fan that has followed me and believed in me. Injuries and all, I wouldn't have changed a thing," he wrote. "I am proud of the mark I left on this game and am grateful to have been a part this league. It was a dream to play in front of all of you, each night, in every stadium. Thank you."

McGrady is the latest NBA player to seek a new chapter in China. Stephon Marbury led the Beijing Ducks to the CBA championship in the 2011-2012 season.

"There are times in life that a new road presents itself and it appears this time has come for me now," McGrady wrote on his Website.

Qingdao was ranked eighth in the 17-team CBA last season.

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