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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:58 am 
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Rumors abound that Bears want Brandon Marshall
Posted by Michael David Smith on March 3, 2010 10:45 AM ET
Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall says he's willing to stay in Denver this year, Broncos owner Pat Bowlen says he wants to keep Marshall and Broncos coach Josh McDaniels thinks it can work.

And yet hardly anyone seems to think Marshall will be a Bronco in 2010.

The biggest question is which team would be the best landing spot for Marshall, and Neil Hayes of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that it could be the Bears. Hayes writes that Bears GM Jerry Angelo's comments about wide receiver not being a ''need'' position are viewed by many as a smoke screen, and that one NFL source wagered a steak dinner on Marshall being in a Bears uniform when camp opens.

We're not sure whether Hayes accepted the wager, or whether the Sun-Times allows its reporters to wager dinners with sources, but the bottom line is that the Bears are among the handful of teams that are consistently named as a potential suitor for Marshall's services.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler had a good rapport with Marshall when they were teammates in Denver, and new Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz would love to add a talented wide receiver to the offense. It's safe to say this won't be the last time we hear talk about the Bears acquiring Marshall


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Jesus Christ, if they keep this up, there won't be any 1st or 2nd round choices for the next two regimes.

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Jesus Christ, if they keep this up, there won't be any 1st or 2nd round choices for the next to regimes.


Olsen for Marshall?? :P


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:05 am 
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I don't see Denver jumping on that

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No Thanks!! Bring me Kampman and Rolle!!!!!!!!


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No Thanks!! Bring me Kampman and Rolle!!!!!!!!


I'm wondering what else we would have to give up along with Olsen to get either one of those guys. Maybe we can give 'em a later round pick so we're not squandering all of our seconds??

edit: i need more coffee so I can form a thought worth posting :oops:


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Spaulding wrote:
No Thanks!! Bring me Kampman and Rolle!!!!!!!!


I'm with you on that, except Moon Mullins says they are out of the Kampman Sweepstakes before it even started:

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Mullin: Bears Out of Kampman Race Already

By John Mullin
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The Bears’ hopes for free agency may be dimming even before they have a chance to make a much-needed strike on their defense.

A source tells CSNChicago.com that Green Bay Packers defensive end Aaron Kampman has all but settled on the team with which he will sign as soon as free agency opens this week.

No deals can be reached in theory until a player is out of contract with his current team. But just as with the first picks of each year’s drafts, negotiations in fact do take place and that appears to be the case with one of the expected early targets of the Bears.

The prevailing sentiment also appears to be that the Bears will come out of the initial blast of free agency with a safety, in part because of the anticipated spending levels several owners are believed ready to reach for Carolina defensive end Julius Peppers.

A handful of owners are prepared to unleash a huge spending onslaught similar to what the Washington Redskins and owner Daniel Snyder did last year with Tennessee defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. With no salary cap there are owner who believe this is indeed the chance to buy a Super Bowl.

The Bears are not one of those few and are expected instead to target Arizona Cardinals safety Antrel Rolle first rather than dive into the bidding hysteria certain to surround Peppers early Friday morning.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:37 am 
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Give him more money. Nothing is a done deal yet. I think some wacky shit might go on when it starts.


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Isn't it awesome that the Bears seem to want to emulate the Washington Redskins?

Trade away all your draft picks. Sign big free agents to deals that will be albatrosses as time goes on.

Take a look at the model franchises in the NFL. Unless they can absolutely steal a player(Moss from Oakland) they aren't playing fantasy football when it comes to running an organization. In fact, most of them let overpriced aging free agents walk and replace them through the draft or trade them away if they can swindle another team(the Raiders).

The best thing to happen to this team would be trading away anyone they can for draft picks and not picking up a single player through trade.

The problem with Marshall is that if we were setting odds on the next player in the NFL to do something that ends up costing him a season or more out of the league Marshall would be the favorite.

The no risk option is to bring in Terrell Owens. If Cutler is half as good as some people believe he'd turn Owens back into a pro bowler for the cost of a few million dollars and no draft picks.

Just because he sucked with a terrible offensive fit in Buffalo and dueling inept QB's doesn't mean that he is done all together.

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The problem with TO is not his production it's his locker room stuff and what his presence does to the teams that scares me off.

I hoep the Redskins go nuts for peppers.


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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to warm up to the idea of TO - most of his problems in the past were due to his crybaby act that resulted in him not being thrown to enough. This obviously wouldn't be a problem when Cutler doesn't have too many other options...


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hackwilson's ribbies wrote:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to warm up to the idea of TO - most of his problems in the past were due to his crybaby act that resulted in him not being thrown to enough. This obviously wouldn't be a problem when Cutler doesn't have too many other options...
The thing is though that he is so broken now that he will...

1) Be extra motivated not to be an asshole, at least for the first year.
2) Be paid so little that if he becomes an issue he gets suspended/cut/benched and the Bears are no worse off than before.

Now if the same happens with Marshall or Boldin, which is just as likely given that they have question marks, the Bears are even more screwed because they gave up a lot more money and draft picks. Boldin may not be as bad as Marshall or Owens but he's still a high risk acquisition.

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hackwilson's ribbies wrote:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to warm up to the idea of TO - most of his problems in the past were due to his crybaby act that resulted in him not being thrown to enough. This obviously wouldn't be a problem when Cutler doesn't have too many other options...
The thing is though that he is so broken now that he will...

1) Be extra motivated not to be an asshole, at least for the first year.
2) Be paid so little that if he becomes an issue he gets suspended/cut/benched and the Bears are no worse off than before.

Now if the same happens with Marshall or Boldin, which is just as likely given that they have question marks, the Bears are even more screwed because they gave up a lot more money and draft picks. Boldin may not be as bad as Marshall or Owens but he's still a high risk acquisition.


Agreed - now let's see if our boy Jerry gets a shoehorn to pry his head out of his ass and starts looking in the right direction here...


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I'm not sure that either of those guys - Marshall or TO - are a fit in Martz's offense.


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The Bears need to do whatever it takes to get Marshall. I would trade Forte in a second for Marshall.

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Supposedly, the Bears have talked with Peppers agent too. Signing Peppers would be a huge mistake. He wants huge money. What the Bears are doing right now doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't eat the last 2 years of Lovie's contract & clean house, yet they seem to be more active in free agency than ever before., ready to spend a lot of money on players. Spending a lot of money on free agents would make more sense if the Bears had brought in a new regime.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Isn't it awesome that the Bears seem to want to emulate the Washington Redskins?

Trade away all your draft picks. Sign big free agents to deals that will be albatrosses as time goes on.

Take a look at the model franchises in the NFL. Unless they can absolutely steal a player(Moss from Oakland) they aren't playing fantasy football when it comes to running an organization. In fact, most of them let overpriced aging free agents walk and replace them through the draft or trade them away if they can swindle another team(the Raiders).

The best thing to happen to this team would be trading away anyone they can for draft picks and not picking up a single player through trade.

The problem with Marshall is that if we were setting odds on the next player in the NFL to do something that ends up costing him a season or more out of the league Marshall would be the favorite.

The no risk option is to bring in Terrell Owens. If Cutler is half as good as some people believe he'd turn Owens back into a pro bowler for the cost of a few million dollars and no draft picks.

Just because he sucked with a terrible offensive fit in Buffalo and dueling inept QB's doesn't mean that he is done all together.

I don't agree entirely with this post, but that is and will always be the fan mentality to pretend-GM play. SIGN EVERYONE! MORE MONEY! It doesn't work.

Everyone makes fun of Dan Snyder, and then they propose to do exactly the same thing.

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Scorehead wrote:
The Bears need to do whatever it takes to get Marshall. I would trade Forte in a second for Marshall.


And then do what at RB? :?

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I'm not sure that either of those guys - Marshall or TO - are a fit in Martz's offense.


Marshall might be a better fit than TO but I think he is an issue. TO won't change, I love him, but he won't change.


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I don't agree entirely with this post, but that is and will always be the fan mentality to pretend-GM play. SIGN EVERYONE! MORE MONEY! It doesn't work.

Everyone makes fun of Dan Snyder, and then they propose to do exactly the same thing.
Unfortunately, given how they know they are done at the end of the season if they don't make the playoffs, Lovie and Jerry have no reason to not think the same way with short term thinking instead of trying to build an organization.

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Larry Mayer poo-poos this rumor on chicagobears.com:

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I read on the Internet today that an NFL scout said he would wager a steak dinner that wide receiver Brandon Marshall would be in a Bears uniform by the start of training camp. Would you take that bet?

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They say there’s no such thing as a free lunch, but there just might be in this case. In other words, I’d take that bet in a second. I would be very surprised if the Bears traded for Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall. I just don’t see that happening. He’s a great talent, but he has a lot of baggage. In addition, the Bears are excited about the potential of their young wide receivers and have far more pressing needs to address in free agency and the draft. By the way, I like my steak cooked medium well.


My question - why would you eat a steak medium well? What a waste.


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The Bears need to do whatever it takes to get Marshall. I would trade Forte in a second for Marshall.


And then do what at RB? :?


Sign Chester Taylor. There are a dozen RB's the Bears could sign who could do what Forte did last year. I am betting that Forte was just another Bears RB who is one & done.

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I'm good with the Taylor idea but who is going to want Forte after last year. You aren't getting anything for him.


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Spaulding wrote:
The problem with TO is not his production it's his locker room stuff and what his presence does to the teams that scares me off..


It's a no lose situation. If he acts up, it only further greases the skids for Lovie's firing. If he does not, he should do very well as a deep threat who fights for the ball for Cutler.

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The Denver Broncos want a first round pick for Brandon, says The SCORE's Zach Zaidman, who is doing "Scoreboard Updates" this afternoon on "Boers & Bernstein". In plain English, Brandon won't be on the receiving end of Jay Cutler passes next year. :(


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The Denver Broncos want a first round pick for Brandon, says The SCORE's Zach Zaidman, who is doing "Scoreboard Updates" this afternoon on "Boers & Bernstein". In plain English, Brandon won't be on the receiving end of Jay Cutler passes next year. :(


What about a 1st rounder next year?


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Bucky Chris wrote:
SHARK wrote:
The Denver Broncos want a first round pick for Brandon, says The SCORE's Zach Zaidman, who is doing "Scoreboard Updates" this afternoon on "Boers & Bernstein". In plain English, Brandon won't be on the receiving end of Jay Cutler passes next year. :(


What about a 1st rounder next year?

The Bears don't have a 1st rounder this year though, Chris, as you know...


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What's taking so long for the obvious Elmhurst Steve or "Steak Dinner Boom" joke?

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There may not be a "next year" due to the NFL's Labor Storm, remember?


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What's taking so long for the obvious Elmhurst Steve or "Steak Dinner Boom" joke?



who?

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spmack wrote:
What's taking so long for the obvious Elmhurst Steve or "Steak Dinner Boom" joke?



who?

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