Rza is still very good.

I just lost a long ass post explaining my opinoin.


Ill do it in the Van Peezy section later.

Even other rappers that you would put in the conversation of Best ever, know The God is the best ever.

Ive actually heard them proclaim "Except for Rakim, Im the illest mofucka you ever seen"

Off the top of my head, definitely check out Beware, The Dream Shatterer and his verse on Off The Books.

And Tupac is overrated big time in my opinion, and belongs nowhere near the top of any best of list. (Just because you're overrated doesn't mean you suck.) His two best verses are guest spots on All Around The World and Gotta Get Mine.

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Ryûken: I don't agree and I never shall. Go and do what you must Raoh, but never set foot in this dojo again!

My favorite Pac songs are Soulja's Story from 2Pacalypse Now (before he was famous) and Str8 Ballin'. Str8 Ballin is sick.

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Brendas got a baby
Str8 Ballin
Lord Knows
So Many Tears
Pain

Those are some of my fav Pac joints. He wasn't just about bein on som thug shit. He had some really good thought and msgs in a lot of his rhymes. A lot of people from the hood could eaily realate to the ills of the ghetto or hoodlife. He was able to spit about the social ills better than anyone before him. He was believable and sounded sincere with those kinds of lyrics

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"You can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution."

Just numbers 63 and 65 for this dumpy middle-aged white guy. For #68 and #69.....I dont know OB.

I like U Can't C Me (w/George Clinton) and Shorty Wanna Be A Thug

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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." ~ H.L. Mencken

LOL, who are these people of whom you speak?

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

This whole thread is very depressing to me.Not only am I lost as to who might be who, for some reaosn my Itunes just does not work on my computer. I have deleted it and re downloaded it a few times and it looks good, but the store just does not open, thus no real no tunes for me in like 6 months. killing me softly

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

I like rap, but I'll admit I'm fairly ignorant unless it comes to the household name rappers. I wanna thank you all for turning me on to Big Pun. I'd heard of him, but never heard him. I downloaded Capital Punishment on my IPhone last night. Great album. I didn't realize it was his only one, and honestly didn't know he was dead. Too bad. Would have liked to hear how he would have evolved. He jumped right to my list of best rappers along with Rakim, Tupac, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, and Snoop. Would welcome any other recomendations from those my in tune to this genre.

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You want newer stuff or older?

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"You can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution."

Well if all the new stuff sounds like Lil Wayne, I'll stick with the old school. If there is any decent new stuff let me know.

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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." ~ H.L. Mencken

Honestly don't understand the problem everyone has with Lil Wayne.

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If you want some older cats check out Gang Starr, Jeru The Damaja, The Roots and so forth

Newer hip hop - Murs, Blu and Exile, One Be Lo, Little Brother, Foreign Exchange, Heiruspecs, Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, Elzhi, Chali 2Na, MF DOOM

These are just a few I can name off the top

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"You can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution."

Im the same way about the Lil Wayne love. Just my opinion but I dont know how anyone could even like him. His voice is annoying, lyrics are godawful and his flow is akward. (I ve been able to get through about 7 songs.) A lot of the hate probably stems from someone, either him or jay z, calling him the greatest ever. If he posted here he wouldnt be the best rapper on this board.

You guys better watch out, LoHo might like to punch a few of you.
If he can reach you!

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Mike North, June 24, 2008

To add a couple to your list:

Royce Da 5'9", Jean Grae, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Termanology, and Aasim...

By the way A7X, Big Pun had two more releases: Yeeah Baby, released in 2000 the year he died, and Endangered Species, released in 2001. Make sure to check those out too.

The suggestions by Mr. Hernandez and I oughta get you on the right track.

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Thanks guys! I love The Roots and Bernsie of all people turned me on to Lupe Fiasco.

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Big Pun had one of the sickest deliveries IMO. Just being as big as he was and the way he was able to control his breathing while flowing the way he did was impressive.


Twinz (Deep Cover 98) off the Capital Punishment album had one of the sickest lines "Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7DvbWy7bs&feature=related

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Seem like only yesterday, you were here smiling
Now you gone away, but I know you in a better place
No traces of you, what can I do?
Alone and confused

Another one on my overrated list. Hot garbage since Doggystyle...

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Agreed on the Snoop thought.

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