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Yes, thanks C2C my blue balls have been cured.Appreciate it big guy :D

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No thoughts on any of the matchups for tomorrow Coast? It's like you just teased me and now i'm left with blue balls.


Baylor.

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I am certainly not counting my money yet, but Baylor is up 29 at halftime.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:39 pm 
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One for Sunday:
Baylor-Duke Under 139.5
Baylor-Duke under 65, 1st half (1/2 amount bet on game total)
Both teams are playing some sterling defense. Baylor is going to most likely play their zone, which I expect will extend the clock on duke's offensive possessions. Both teams have quickness outside and size inside that I expect will be a pretty good D matchup. And if Baylor can force Duke to live by the trey.... Lean Baylor...

Also playing Mich. state +1.5 v. Tenn on Sunday. A little line value by my numbers

One for Tuesday:
Pacific-Missouri State under 127
Pacific plays grinders. It's their style and nothing is going to change here. Mo. State may want to play a bit faster than Pacific, but not much. And with a championship at stake (albeit a third tier championship) I expect just a bit more ratcheting of the shot selection.

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Mich state-Tenn over 135.5 for the game
Mich State-Tenn over 62.5 (larger for first half)
Think izzo will be happy to run with the Vols. both teams are great offensive rebounding teams, so I'd expect a bit more than the usual putback points.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:59 pm 
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By the way, I am now on MSU +2 for even more. It's now LARGE.

I'm also on MSU over first half 62.5 bigger than game over 135.5.

Here's my take on the MSU-Tenn line FWIW.
When the tourney started, I made MSU 89.5 and Tenn 86. Whenever a team loses a key player, you have to consider the value of it. I took MSU down 1.5 for the loss of Lucas to 88. The linesmaker seemingly took them down about 4 for his loss to about 85.5. THus, I made the line vs. UNI (84.5) MSU -3.5, while the linesmaker made it MSU-1. MSU played closer to my number than the linesmakers', as MSU won by 7.

Tenn is now 87. MSU is 85.5 or 86 by the linesmakers' #, while they are still 88 by mine. So I make MSU -1, while the linesmaker opened Tenn -1/1.5.

What do you think Lucas' value is? That would probably determine how you peg this line.

As far as the specific matchup is concerned, the loss of a point guard/leading scorer is of course huge. But they showed vs. UNI they could win without him. They will have to find the points they got from Lucas. I'd look for MSU to rely more on their inside game and attack Chism and Williams inside. The Vols' better be careful of foul trouble today. I expect izzo to go right at em, unlike OSU who lived by the Turner and died by it. Tenn didn't take Leighty, Deibler and Lauderdale out of that game as much as Matta seemed to do in making sure Turner made most of the plays. Turner carried them through several end games recently, so they rode him again and lost. MSU is more versatile, or at least Izzo seems to make them all contribute. Even without Lucas, defending Morgan, Summers, Lucious, Roe will be a challenge for Tenn. Key stat: MSU is +8.9 rebounding margin, compared to Tenn +1.2. Another key stat: MSU did not allow UNI a basket in the last ten minutes of the game. At crunch time, when it's time to ratchet up the D, I want Izzo on my side.


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I like it when I am on the same plays as you. Great minds think alike.

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Thanks, Coast.

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2nd half Tenn-Mich St under 75.
With first half over winner in hand, playing 2nd half under 75 to set up full 20 pt. middle on the game bet.

First half 80 points on only 60 possessions. They scored 48 pts. first 10 mins., but 32 the last ten as the game settled in. Foul fest always a worry, but I'm expecting a bit more grinding 2h.


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Most of my investments are based on fundamental analysis. But sometimes, I'll play the charts (or throw the darts) and take a ride on a technical play:

Duke -5 vs. Baylor
My personal opinions about Duke aside, there are a few technical indicators here: Public loves Baylor but line holding due to sharp money. The worst sports bettor on the globe loves Baylor. The best college hoops bettor in the history of Vegas (AB) is doing something he hardly ever does: bet on Duke.

Sometimes fading a loser and riding the coat tails of a winner is a strategy worth some action.


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Coast2Coast wrote:
Most of my investments are based on fundamental analysis. But sometimes, I'll play the charts (or throw the darts) and take a ride on a technical play:

Duke -5 vs. Baylor
My personal opinions about Duke aside, there are a few technical indicators here: Public loves Baylor but line holding due to sharp money. The worst sports bettor on the globe loves Baylor. The best college hoops bettor in the history of Vegas (AB) is doing something he hardly ever does: bet on Duke.

Sometimes fading a loser and riding the coat tails of a winner is a strategy worth some action.


Fezzik has a big beef with Alan Boston that he has been publicly airing on the forums at eog.com

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Knowing that the refs are always on the Dookies side, that is worth a few points right there. Obviously Duke was the better team vs. Purdue, but the officiating in the last ten minutes of the game was atrocious, and one-sided. Scheyer was open the whole second half because Zoubek was setting moving picks that weren't being called. And Duke never misses free throws.

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Chus, I have met both Fezzik and Alan Boston and have spoken in some depth with both of them about betting, and specifically, college hoops betting. When it comes to the nature of that feud and some of the back and forth they have had, they both have valid points but lack class in how they disrespect the other. They are very different gamblers and each make money in their own way. Fezzik is an actuary and an advantage player. He has no peer in the NFL (I think it's safe to say that after he won the Hilton contest the last 2 years). Boston knows the betting value of college hoops teams like no other. He's a fundamental, matchup and coaching guy. Fezzik probably couldn't name half the players or coaches. But here's the deal: I have been at gatherings in Vegas in which the top 20 or so sports bettors were there. The room couldn't contain any of their egos. Professional jealousy is rampant in that industry. Fezzik thinks AB's fundamental approach is old school and he doesn't like that AB gets so much attention from ESPN. Boston thinks Fezzik is a fraud because he is a cherrypicker, not an analyst. I think they are both wrong in how they talk about the other. These two guys genuinely dislike each other, but I still pay attention to what both of them have to say.


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Coast2Coast wrote:
I do have one big one for next Tuesday's NIT semifinals:
Carolina-Rhode Island over 149
Had this game been played a month ago, it would likely have been lined at 155. However, these teams have played several "grinders" against slowish teams over the last month and March games tend to be slower. I think that gives us value here. These teams do like to play fast and both should oblige. I won't be surprised if this is 153 or so on game day.


We might as well start calling you Kreskin. 153's almost everywhere now.

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No big bets today, but I do have a couple of bones on each of these:

Michigan state +2, -120
West Virginia +3 -120
moneyline parlay: MSU ML + WV ML 2 win 7.2
MSU-Butler over 125.5
Duke-WVU over 130.5

MSU under-valued and Butler's "home court advantage" looks to be a negative to me. They've never been in this kind of game, have never played in a dome, and haven't really played with the kind of pressure-packed situation every person in Indiana is probably putting on them today.

West Virginia over Duke is pretty simple: I'll take Huggins over K for game planning and in-game coaching. If the officiating is fair, I think WVU wins. That's the problem betting against Duke. K has the officials so intimidated, they rarely make a bad call against him.

Most analysts we've heard this week like under, but the number hasn't moved. I liked over from the opener and still do. Games could start slow, but these teams all have very efficient offenses that have been efficient even against really good defenses.


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With Howard, Butler's big guy, apparently playing now (but who knows how effectively), that's a question..but the big one is how is Butler going to battle Duke on the boards? What Duke did to West Virgnia -- shooting 53% against that D, outboarding them and committing only 5 TOs -- is impressive. Now I don't expect them to do all that tonight, but I don't think they will need to do that much to cover this number. All season long I have had DUke 9 more than Butler. And whatever BUtler has done to improve their power rating in the tourney, so has Duke.

Duke -7 for a normal bet.

No play on total. Under is probably the play, but I don't see enough value to play it.


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