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Just finished watching it ... I really liked the finale. Not here to "defend" that; just saying I liked it quite a bit. It made as much sense to me as it possibly could, and it dovetailed nicely back onto itself. I can put the show to bed quite happily; would that it were so that "24" offers us as much or more - here's hoping.

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I was really enjoying the episode for 2 hours and 22 minutes. Enjoyed seeing the recognition in sideways/dead world, Locke and Jack had a nice fight on the cliffs, and I got to see Hurley given control of the island.

Then the last 8 minutes aired, and I realized I had been the victim of the longest con in TV history. I had resigned myself to not getting many satisfactory answers in terms of how certain things happened (i.e. the food drops), but was content because they had the "flash sideways". They were telling a story about another world that would be an integral part of understanding Lost.

Wrong. :x

The sideways world is actually the Losties' post-death waiting room. No importance to the overall story. The castaways in this place were all dead! That could have been done in three episodes! But no, take 14 to show the dead people realizing that they're dead.

I went to one of the Lost podcast sites and was reading comments from fans, and the defense of this season is that "Just enjoy the journey". No! The writers used plot devices, Easter eggs, and mythology as a way to hook fans on the show, and when the time came for payoff, it was fuck you we don't want to.

Amazing how 8 minutes can change my view of Lost.

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:45 am 
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I agree, what an utter piece of shit ending. The comment about the longest con in TV history feels so true. The show spends six years trying to make you actually care about the well being of the characters just to say oh it doesn't matter because they are all dead anyways. Dumb.


One question though, why wasn't Ben in the church at the end?

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:21 am 
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One question though, why wasn't Ben in the church at the end?

It seemed to me that he wanted to stay in the sideways world. He enjoyed that world, and he was able to be with his "daughter", and he will probably get it on with the French Chick. Would you want to leave that?

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So a good ending is explaining NOTHING about the mysterious, main seting of the show. Instead make the payoff totally focused on the CURRENT SEASON only.

Oh, cool. Everybody's dead. And that makes me care so much about the six seasons I've watched. Doesn't matter how they died or when, they're just all dead. Great. And when you die, you just live in an alternate universe, totally oblivious to the actual life you previosly lead. And you're happy. But you're happier when you remember that you're dead and you were stranded on this horrible island that killed your friends and scared the shit out of you.

Let's all meet up at a church we made up in our minds and "move on", whatever the hell that means. Hey, anybody remember Walt? He could see the future. No? Nobody remembers? OK, not important I guess. Remember how the same numbers Hugo won the lottery with happened to be the same code from the hatch? Nope, not important. The giant statue with four toes, pregnant women and their babies dying, the moving cabin with the spooky rocking chair? We were just fuckin' with ya. Throwing shit out there. Just be satisfied with everybody meeting up together and hugging. Everybody except Mr. Ecko, The science teacher, Frogurt, The two con artists with the diamonds, The pilot who got snatched out of the plane, Walt....etc....hmmmm. Wow Jack died in the same spot he landed on when he fell out of a moving airplane the first time and survived. That's great...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
So a good ending is explaining NOTHING about the mysterious, main seting of the show. Instead make the payoff totally focused on the CURRENT SEASON only.
Oh, cool. Everybody's dead. And that makes me care so much about the six seasons I've watched. Doesn't matter how they died or when, their just all dead. Great. And when you die, you just live in an alternate universe, totally oblivious to the actual life you previosly lead. And you're happy. But your happier when you remember that you're dead and you were stranded on this horrible island that killed your friends scared the shit out of you.

Let's all meet up at a church we made up in our minds answer "move on", whatever the hell that means. Hey, anybody remember Walt? He could see the future. No? Nobody remembers? OK, not important I guess. Remember how the same numbers Hugo won the lottery with happened to be the same code from the hatch? Nope, not important. The giant statue with four toes, pregnant women and their babies dying, the moving cabin with the spooky rocking chair? We were just fuckin' with ya. Throwing shit out there. Just be satisfied with everybody meeting up together and hugging. Everybody except Mr. Ecko, The science teacher, Frogurt, The two con artists with the diamonds, The pilot who got snatched out of the plane, Walt....etc....hmmmm. Wow Jack died in the same spot he landed on when he fell out of a moving airplane the first time and survived. That's great...


That's perfect. Much better than I could have ever said it.

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I feel like someone who just got out of a bad relationship. Yeah, I got disappointed sometimes. I even felt a little beat up from it sometimes. I know that it's probably for the best that it's over. However, I'll miss it and remember the good times.

I don't regret watching the show from the start and not quitting halfway through like my parents did when things really did get lame.

Feel free to help me out here if I'm off base on what I am saying here since I'm not a LOST scholar.

I am still trying to figure out what the major point of the show was. It seemed like they had a message. In a few sentences, what would it be? It seemed like it was part salvation(pretty much everyone died after solving the issue that was ruining their life like Charlie's drug use, Jin and Sun's failing marriage, and Jack getting over being a whiny bitch for the whole series). It seemed like it was another part to enjoy the journey and life with the other people who help you along the way.

I still don't totally understand the ending, especially when each of them died(besides the ones we saw during the series). The light on the island still doesn't make sense to me. Was that supposed to represent the gateway to Heaven or something? Why was Locke able to be killed after the light went out? Wasn't it his whole goal to stop the light?

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The light was electromagnetism. I hope that clears everything up...

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One thing I'm not going to miss about this show is the amount of Lost snobs there are. These dbags who think they know all things about the show, find the ending amazing and think anyone who is questioning it clearly lacks to mental capacity to comprehend such a brilliant ending.

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I was really enjoying the episode for 2 hours and 22 minutes. Enjoyed seeing the recognition in sideways/dead world, Locke and Jack had a nice fight on the cliffs, and I got to see Hurley given control of the island.

Then the last 8 minutes aired, and I realized I had been the victim of the longest con in TV history. I had resigned myself to not getting many satisfactory answers in terms of how certain things happened (i.e. the food drops), but was content because they had the "flash sideways". They were telling a story about another world that would be an integral part of understanding Lost.

Wrong. :x

Your review was spot on. Overall the finale was decent, but after the last couple of minutes all I could think was "WTF?!?" I was waiting for some kind of big payoff, and all we got was "They're all dead". That was always one of my theories all along, which makes it such a poor choice as the ending.

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One thing I'm not going to miss about this show is the amount of Lost snobs there are. These dbags who think they know all things about the show, find the ending amazing and think anyone who is questioning it clearly lacks to mental capacity to comprehend such a brilliant ending.


The ending was bad. I couldn't even justify it the way I have with other series finales in the past. It was just bad.

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Don't make your audience feel as though they wasted their time watching your product.

If the protection of the island never mattered and the safe return of the people on the island never mattered. What was the point of it all? I'm ok with a deeper meaning coming into play every now and then. But what was ANYTHING done for? Why did they have to blow up the hatch, stop fake Locke, escape from the island THEY CAME BACK TO. Everybody's dead and it's all groovy...

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If the protection of the island never mattered and the safe return of the people on the island never mattered. What was the point of it all? I'm ok with a deeper meaning coming into play every now and then. But what was ANYTHING done for? Why did they have to blow up the hatch, stop fake Locke, escape from the island THEY CAME BACK TO. Everybody's dead and it's all groovy...



Jack had to protect the light before he actually died or in the other "alternate universe" there would have been no light at the church for them to meet together again. They said at one point if the light went out there, then it went out everywhere and the people you loved would not exist or something like that.

I kind of liked the finale and hated it at the same time. I don't like to think this hard to remember what has been said.

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I was also disappointed that the Sawyer-Juliet-Jack-Kate foursome never materialized in the alternative universes they actually showed.

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Northside_Dan wrote:
One thing I'm not going to miss about this show is the amount of Lost snobs there are. These dbags who think they know all things about the show, find the ending amazing and think anyone who is questioning it clearly lacks to mental capacity to comprehend such a brilliant ending.


Haha! Very true. I personally didn't like it right away, but after watching Jimmy and Jack explain it on Kimmel, I can appreciate it a lot more.

And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.


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And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.



I envy that guy. Wish I were him...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.



I envy that guy. Wish I were him...

That was my facebook status.

And Bucky Chris is one of my fb friends

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.



I envy that guy. Wish I were him...


But you watched it. It's acceptable for you to wish you didn't.


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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.



I envy that guy. Wish I were him...

That was my facebook status.

And Bucky Chris is one of my fb friends

Did I inspire that quote Chris?


Hahaha, ding! You're one of them. But only one of the seemingly hundreds.


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I'm going to miss Kate's tight ass and tighter T-shirts - and Juliet's pendulous breastesses.

I liked the series - I knew they'd never tie together all the loose ends.

I assume Mr. Eko was in hell - and Walt wasn't dead, Michael was in purgatory still. Who knows what Ana Lucia's deal was, and that of the two tailies buried in the sand.

I was glad to see Vincent was alive and well.

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Bucky Chris wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
Bucky Chris wrote:
And another guy I hate is the "I'm so glad I didn't watch this." I just fail to see the point of that comment.



I envy that guy. Wish I were him...


But you watched it. It's acceptable for you to wish you didn't.



But what about Frogurt?!?!?

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Crystal Lake Huffy wrote:
Watched Kimmel last night and it was implied that the flash sideways was Jack's purgatory only. The first episode of this season, the plane still crashed and everyone died. Does this explain everything? Not at all. But I guess we wont actually know.


Young Jacob was pretty funny on Kimmel.

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Let's show a little respect for the buried alive Nikki too btw:

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I'd like to bury something into that Latin hottie...

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Bucky Chris wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
That was my facebook status.

And Bucky Chris is one of my fb friends

Did I inspire that quote Chris?


Hahaha, ding! You're one of them. But only one of the seemingly hundreds.

Well its just kinda ball bustin type thing. Also, I felt left out considering 97% of my friends on there have had LOST status updates.


In reality Im sorry the show treated you guys this way


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Wow... they really should have Nikki on this show longer - if for nothing else, to wear as few clothes as possible:

http://www.google.com/images?q=Kiele+Sa ... CCsQsAQwAA

Born in '77, she's a Glenbard North grad also:

Attended Glenbard North High School, the same High School as Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins. She is half Puerto Rican and half French.

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It was about letting go which is what u all should do...

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I wasn't expecting some grand finale that would make everything perfectly clear, but I wanted something.

What's was the point? Dharma, the others, leaving the island the first time, going back, a hundred other things.


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It would seem that I am in the minority of people that enjoyed this finale. In a way I'm glad that they didn't waste time answering every single detail. While I enjoyed most of the reunion moments, I thought some of them were superfluous. By no means am I saying that this was a perfect finale, but I was able to enjoy it without worrying why Walt wasn't there (puberty) and other dangling plot threads. I'd watch a show dedicated to the misadventures of Hurley (new-Jacob/Jack) and Ben any day. It'd still be better than most of the garbage that is on now.

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