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Bryce Harper is the Las Vegas high schooler who took his GED before his junior year so he could play junior college baseball and gain eligiblity for the 2010 mlb draft. Harper is playing C, 3B and CF for the College of Southern Nevada. Here are his current stats through 51 games:

BA- .417
HR- 21 (the conference record is 12)
RBI- 64
Runs- 65
OBP- .507
Slug- .899
SB- 16

Reports are this kid is a world class douchebag and has a sense of entitlement that is off the charts (he's being called the anti Joe Mauer). He also has a bigger douchebag for an agent but I have no idea how the Nationals can pass him up with the top choice in next months draft. He's a JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL and is making a mockery of a college (wood bat) league.


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Reports are this kid is a world class douchebag and has a sense of entitlement that is off the charts (he's being called the anti Joe Mauer). He also has a bigger douchebag for an agent but I have no idea how the Nationals can pass him up with the top choice in next months draft. He's a JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL and is making a mockery of a college (wood bat) league.


I've heard the same rumors about him(and his family). The argument can be made that Bob Feller was an equivalent jackass as a high schooler, but then again so was Todd Van Poppel.

I'd pass.

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Does this guy have Boras for an agent?

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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Yeah and he wants more than the $15M Strasburg signed for last year.


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Every GM in the league is praying some GM ahead of them in the draft takes this kid so they don't have to be the one to pull the trigger or pass on him.


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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Bryce Harper is the Las Vegas high schooler who took his GED before his junior year so he could play junior college baseball and gain eligiblity for the 2010 mlb draft. Harper is playing C, 3B and CF for the College of Southern Nevada. Here are his current stats through 51 games:

BA- .417
HR- 21 (the conference record is 12)
RBI- 64
Runs- 65
OBP- .507
Slug- .899
SB- 16

Reports are this kid is a world class douchebag and has a sense of entitlement that is off the charts (he's being called the anti Joe Mauer). He also has a bigger douchebag for an agent but I have no idea how the Nationals can pass him up with the top choice in next months draft. He's a JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL and is making a mockery of a college (wood bat) league.

Those numbers are REEE-Dicuolous


How does he have time for 16 SB's? I find it hard to believe he hits singles. Probably stealing third.

1.307 O.P.S. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Id Take him.


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Why don't--any maybe they do and I just haven't heard about it--big league teams have prospects like these face a Roy Halladay or Justin Verlander--someone with heat but also an effective curve-ball--before signing them to big contracts? I'm guessing this kid would fall over backwards after taking some inside heat from a Verlander and then seeing Verlander's big ol' hook bearing directlyinto his grill, before dropping across the middle of the plate for a strike.

How many top hitting draft picks never pan out because they can't hit a curve. Hell, why didn't the Cubs see if Soriano could hit a breaking ball before signing him!


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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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If I were that kid, I would challenge Strasburg to an at bat. Seriously.


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Does this guy have Boras for an agent?


Didn't Boras put "innings limits" in Strasburg's contract (to keep the current Nationals manager, Jim Riggleman, from doing to Strasburg what he did to Kerry Wood).

Maybe Boras can specify in the contract that Harper never have to face a pitcher with an effective curve ball.


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If I were that kid, I would challenge Strasburg to an at bat. Seriously.


Maybe take a run at Jamie Moyer first and see how that goes.


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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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The Hall of Fame is filled with guys that couldn't hit a curveball.


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There's a story that when Harper was 12 years old he was asked to play in a weekend all-star tournament for 15 year olds. For the tourney he went 12-12 with 11 home runs.

If the Nats don't draft him they may be passing on the best hitter to come along in the last 50 years.


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He is only 17 though. He could learn not to be a total douche. Even if he remains to be one, baseball is full of them so its not that big of a deal. Just move him to the OF or 1b so he doesn't have to deal with handling a pitching staff and let him rake away. AJ still has a job and he is supposed to be a total douche.

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Just a complete guess, but I say this has Todd Marinovich written all over it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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There's a story that when Harper was 12 years old he was asked to play in a weekend all-star tournament for 15 year olds. For the tourney he went 12-12 with 11 home runs.


Some 12s are also 5'9"-6' 170-180lbs as well.

Some weekend "all star" tournaments are simply money making frauds playing on the simp parents who've forked over 2-3 grand to pay their kid's way onto a "travel" team. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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There's a story that when Harper was 12 years old he was asked to play in a weekend all-star tournament for 15 year olds. For the tourney he went 12-12 with 11 home runs.

If he had to take a swig of water in between innings, I wouldn't want him.

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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Bryce is a very douchey name

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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Keyser Soze wrote:
If the Nats don't draft him they may be passing on the best hitter to come along in the last 50 years.

Wrong.

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well it doesn't help when he's already been on the cover of sports illustrated...yeah this kid won't be modest.

and what the fuck kind of name is "bryce"...

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Jesus, a 570' homer? I don't care how douchy he might be that is an absolute moonshot.

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Jesus, a 570' homer? I don't care how douchy he might be that is an absolute moonshot.


HGH....that kid on the cover of that magazine looks like he's 25

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Jesus, a 570' homer? I don't care how douchy he might be that is an absolute moonshot.

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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Harper's final regular season stats (58 games):

BA- .415
HR- 23
RBI- 68
Runs- 75
OBP- .504
Slug- .891
SB- 17

In the final game of the district tournament Harper went 6-6 with 4 home runs, a double, triple and 10 RBI. The wind was blowing out to center at up to 45 MPH gusts and the two teams combined for 36 runs and 10 home runs but that's still pretty damn impressive. His team is heading to the Junior College World Series next weekend. There is little doubt he'll be the #1 pick in next months draft.


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Harper's final regular season stats (58 games):

BA- .415
HR- 23
RBI- 68
Runs- 75
OBP- .504
Slug- .891
SB- 17

In the final game of the district tournament Harper went 6-6 with 4 home runs, a double, triple and 10 RBI. The wind was blowing out to center at up to 45 MPH gusts and the two teams combined for 36 runs and 10 home runs but that's still pretty damn impressive. His team is heading to the Junior College World Series next weekend. There is little doubt he'll be the #1 pick in next months draft.


I hope this is on the MLB Network (I'd make sure to record that...although I forgot "24" last night :lol: )

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I'm usually the first to point the steroid finger but there are stories about this kid dominating that go all the way back to when he was 3 yrs old playing t-ball with 6 yr olds. Until we find out his mom was feeding him HGH in his baby bottle I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.


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 Post subject: Re: Bryce Harper
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Nats facing simple truth: Bryce Harper is too good not to draft

Harper's combination of power, athleticism, bat speed are rare even at MLB level
Nationals will have to pay big to land Harper, but not as much as for Strasburg
Harper looking at four years in minors if he catches, half that if he plays outfield


Bryce Harper could smash the signing bonus record for position players set by Mark Teixeira nine years ago.

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Bryce Harper is too good to pass up. For the Washington Nationals, who hold the first pick in Monday's Rule 4 First-Year Player Draft, it really is that simple. Once you get past the hype, the caterwauling about Harper daring to give up his junior prom and the anonymous sniping about his "makeup" or his swing, you are left with this: The kid is 17 years old with freakish bat speed and the kind of left-handed power that is rare in the big leagues.

The Nationals, who own the first pick for the second straight draft, are positioned for franchise-turning back-to-back days next week. On Monday they are expected to draft Harper. On Tuesday they will give the ball to Stephen Strasburg for his major-league debut. Strasburg, a right-handed pitcher and the team's No. 1 pick last year, is 21 years old.

"The greatest commodity in the game is power," says agent Scott Boras, who represents both players. "Power arms and power hitters."

Suddenly the Nats are loaded with excitement, a tremendous turnaround for the least-watched team in baseball last year (their home telecasts attracted only about 12,000 households). Of course, the Nationals still will have to sign Harper -- this after handing over a record $15.1 million package to Strasburg last year.

Harper does figure to sign at some point. He is a baseball rat who needs to be playing, for one. For another, he figures to have no better leverage if he goes into the draft again next year -- he can't improve on being the first overall pick, he loses millions by deferring his major league service another year, and he may be faced with less bargaining power next year.

MLB is bound and determined to include some form of a slotting system for draft bonuses in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement. Those changes, if they can be successfully negotiated with the union, would go into place for the 2012 draft. That would leave 2011 as the last chance to break the bank on bonus money, which means that high picks such as Harper would be under pressure to sign in 2011 before the changes go into effect.

VERDUCCI: Three ways to fix the MLB draft

After all the complaining that the kid should have stayed in high school, Harper seems to have done just fine with the plan Boras mapped out for him about three years ago: leave high school after sophomore year, obtain a General Equivalency Degree, enroll in junior college and become eligible for the draft in what otherwise would have been his junior year in high school.

Boras says he told Harper a few years ago, "This is the only way I can get you to be understood."

Had Harper remained in high school, he would have been bored by rarely getting any pitches to hit, and his skills might have gone underappreciated by pro scouts. They could have questioned his competition and wondered if he could hit with a wood bat.

LEMIRE: After Harper goes, two high schoolers figure to be next

Instead, Harper has played against older, Division I-quality junior college players in a conference that uses wood bats -- and he has torn up the league. Harper has hit 29 home runs -- obliterating the previous school record of 12. While attending the College of Southern Nevada, he lives at home with mom and dad and is teammates with his older brother, Bryan, a pitcher who is 11-1 and currently playing in the Junior College World Series in Grand Junction, Colo.

How good is Harper? After hitting with Harper this winter, Shane Victorino told me, "I wish I had bat speed like that. It's at the top of major league bat speed."

At the Junior College World Series, CSN is 2-0 (outscoring opponents 31-6) while Harper is 3 for 6 with three walks and six runs scored in two games entering a third on Tuesday night. One major league GM told me that Harper will be a consistent "35-home run guy" in the big leagues. Think Ryan Howard -- except with the athleticism to make it to the big leagues as a catcher, outfielder or third baseman.

To get to the World Series, Harper added to his legend with a game against Central Arizona in which he went 6 for 6 -- four homers, a double and a triple. True, the wind was blowing out and CSN had switched to metal bats for the playoffs, but Harper's power is unmistakable.

"Watching him take BP with a wood bat is something else," says Central Arizona coach Jon Wente. "When he hits, there is a different sound of the bat hitting the ball. It's like Albert Pujols. It's a different sound from everybody else."

Says Wente, "We had Ian Kinsler here, and he was a good player, but he believed he was a really good player. You can tell Harper is the same way. He has a different approach and he truly believes he is one of the best."

There is no doubt about Harper's confidence. His critics, the pedestal-toppling crowd, likes to bash him as a kid with poor "character" and "makeup" issues. After all, they like to point out, he was thrown out of a game for taunting the opponents. The kid was on the cover of SI at 16, hit a ball in high school that went 570 feet and for years has been groomed by Boras -- and former big leaguer Kurt Stillwell, who works for Boras -- to be the top pick of the draft. Don't think he hasn't heard the catcalls and "overrated" comments from opposing dugouts and stands.

"Coach [Tim] Chambers did a great job maturing him into a better player and how to handle situations," Wente says of the CSN coach. "He improved so much by the end of the year. The first time we played them he had some of that [attitude]. By this last time we played him, he was very different. He handled things in the right way."

Harper is looking at four years of minor league ball if he catches, and perhaps half of that if he plays the outfield. Boras doesn't want him catching. "No baseball person in his right mind will have the guy catch," says Boras, who believes that catching puts a valuable hitter at too great a risk of wear and tear.

And what about the money? Well, Harper probably won't break Strasburg's record. Strasburg was considered closer to the majors, and if they had happened to be in the same draft, Strasburg would have gone first. Plus, three of the four greatest signing packages in history went to major college pitchers who were close to the big leagues (Strasburg, Mark Prior and David Price). But Harper could smash the record for a position player -- $9.5 million, which has stood for nine years since Boras negotiated the deal for Mark Teixeira.

Sure, there is plenty of hype associated with Harper. As one GM says, "The players at the top of the draft are getting so much media attention now, I think clubs might feel like they have to take a certain player just because of the spotlight on a certain guy. But I don't think that's the case this time."

Strasburg was far and away the best player available last year, a true no-brainer for the Nationals. Harper may not be that far ahead of the field, if only because he is just 17. But his combination of light-tower power and athleticism come along very rarely -- too rarely for the Nationals to let slip by.



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