Gloop, you are spot on. But then that view is the intelligent view and is unlikely to be followed by a self-absorbed meatball from Northwest Indiana, after all they often eat where they crap.

Even that 200-400K (that apparently is proven, because you guys must be bankers or something ) is a hellava lot more than any of you make.

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Are you kidding? I wouldn't roll out of bed for that.

Mac is pissing away millions over the rest of his career by being such a dick.

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So you guys are trying to say that Mac is hurting himself by talking bad about the guy who fired him? Do you really think that he was going to hire Mac back even if he sent him love letters every day on the radio? That's illogical. You can't burn a bridge that's already been burned down.

I don't know who was the program director when Mac left the Score, but it certainly didn't make any bit of difference in getting him back. By the time Mac would really ever need to switch stations, ESPN 1000 will be run by completely different people, especially if they continue to see a gap in the ratings.

This doesn't even bring into account the rumored third sports talk station and other stations that would be able to fill the programming as "man talk" which is pretty much what some other shows are.

And for all of you guys talking about Mike North, isn't he working right now, and if he gets let go from that is there anyone willing to say that he won't be on the roster the very first day that the third sports talker in Chicago goes on the air? He won't have control but North is going to be working for a long time in spite of how many dumb decisions he's made recently.

There are very few people on sports radio who are good enough at it that they can command an audience simply because of who they are. The Score may only have 2 of them right now. ESPN 1000 has no one locally and maybe two nationally.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Gee, they never change managers in radio, huh?

Or, say a new sports station pops up. Think they want to hire a career malcontent? His ratings and his placement on middays do not give him Howard Stern like leverage to act like a giant douche

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In case you haven't noticed, the placement of the two stations in the ratings started to change when Mac was no longer on one station and then when he built a show on the other. It's not a coincidence. Remember also that Silvy and Waddle looked to be the next dominant show and many people on here celebrated the fact that W&S were beating Mac. I believe he said the show just needed "flight miles" and people laughed. It ended up looking like that was correct.

If you are building a sports station from the ground up, McNeil is probably choice #1 because MJH was a ratings powerhouse and even with his "midday" show he's shown that he has a big impact.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

eddie,

I understand how ratings work. Nationally and locally. And if someone can bring in money without ratings, like Chet did for years, PD's might care, but GM's like the bottom line.

ESPN is pulling better numbers here among men than they were two years ago. Tanking is hardly a fair or true presentation of ESPN's ratings. Furthermore, I would bet that the Saloon is more profitable with Mac gone then it was when he was there. Especially when you claim that he was banking the kind of coin that you say he was.

Dumping Murph and Hampton may have made up for the coin they are paying Mac. I wouldn't bet on that though. Unless Mac is making the coin that Magnus says he is. Then the numbers make sense.

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Crest what the hell are you talking about ?? Every show on ESPN is getting beat by the Score and their numbers are down in every demo. The Saloon is down over half it's numbers since Mac left and bearly has a heart beat not only here on this board but with the listeners across the board since Mac left.

No my observation is Mac sounds like an NFL player on the wrong side of 30. You know the type that tells everyone that will listen how great and their team is and how much they love management until they get traded or released for salary cap reasons? That's when their new team becomes the greatest team ever and the old team becomes awful. In Mac's case the Score was just the worst station ever not too long ago because they let him go. He trashed them pretty much everyday. Now he spends his time praying on ESPN's downfall like he used to do with the Score about 16 months ago. Just like with the Score he may need to cross that bridge again one day or use them to drive up the price around contract time. Therefore it would probably be better for him to STFU and let his ratings talk for him.

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The way in which ratings were charted before has changed in the past two years. And the biggest winners are the Score and ESPN.

In the past, ratings were charted by means of a written diary system. Do you know many men that use diaries? Now they are measured electronically and are far more accurate.

The last book saw some real drops for M&M to M&H. But overall, more men are rated as listeners to both outlets then was the case two years ago.

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They're still paying Hampton and they were still paying Murph till a few weeks ago.

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Dumping them likely helped all shows except M&H

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I guess the sinking ship known as ESPN Zone wasn't all that important to the ESPN brand, despite the fact they sold their merchandise. lol...

ESPN Zone in Times Square, site of weekly 'The Sports Reporters' show, to close in week
The ESPN Zone in Times Square is fading to black. The midtown tourist trap with its endless walls of televisions is closing doors in one week, the all-sports network announced Wednesday. The restaurant in the heart of Times Square opened in 1998, the first of the network's dining operations. ESPN is also closing eateries in Baltimore, Chicago, Las Vegas and Washington, D.C.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2010/0 ... z0qO7t5fJ2

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POT ROAST!

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What Mac makes is one of the dumbest recurring topics on this board. Fucking dumb.

The only relevance is that Mac used to kind of brag about how much he made and then said that he wouldn't even get out of bed for 350K.

I guess there will be nothing to discuss next time DS and I are at Taylor St.

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No he really didn't and he was joking about the 350K thing. You can tell he likes to get you guys, especially the ones that don't like him much, riled up. I get the feeling he is not the jerk some of you want him to be.



Jelly beans are neither jelly nor beans discuss. Hey, you could always talk about me!

There is always hunting and footsies.

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Hey, I'm going up to Wisconsin tomorrow and I'll stop by the Jelly Bean factory and ask them.
BTW, When Mac was negiotiang his last, failed, contract at 1000, he has on air bragging about getting the show $2 mil or he wasn't signing, guess that didn't workout any better for Mac than North.

Come on, you are smarter than that.

About what? I was kidding about the jelly beans. BTW, you should take your kids to the Jelly Belly plant in Pleasant Prairie WI, near Kenosha.

http://www.jellybelly.com/visit_jelly_b ... ctory.aspx

About the 2m & signing.

you should take my kids to the Jelly Belly plant in Pleasant Prairie WI, near Kenosha. We've been talking about doing this. It's just one of those things we never get to.

Need a day off from the kids?

Unless you were planning a trip to the outlet mall as well, it's really not a big deal.

Shopping

It's really not worth going out of your way for. It's just a distribution facility - no manufacturing. You ride in a cart around the warehouse and stop periodically to watch videos of the actual manufacturing operations (which are in California and North Chicago)...pretty disappointing. You do get some free samples though, so if you happen to be in the area with time to kill...

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