I would assume it does. There is a huge ND following on the East Coast. I'm guessing NBC has done research at a national level to justify the contract to show their football games.

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So, it seems that the Big 12 is the conference most a risk to be pillaged by the Big 10 and Pac 10.

My question is why aren't they being more aggressive to keep their conference in tact. Either in terms of renegotiating their revenue sharing, enhancing their television network or even seeking to expand themselves? I haven't heard too much from the conference officially other than Kansas campaigning to Mizzou/Nebraska to stay

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I still maintain that there is absolutely no chance that Rutgers isn't invited also even if Notre Dame were to accept today.

Jim Delany clearly likes to make big moves even if they are considered high risk at the time(Big Ten Network, going after conference expansion). Rutgers is the moderate risk/high reward option.

Now, of course they can't just add Rutgers and no one else, because Rutgers is a long term play, but they will add them and it will seem like a genius move down the line.

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They are landlocked when it comes to expansion. No 'big schools' to the west and the East is locked in with the Big Ten. As for a network, that might be possible, but that's probably something that takes 1-2 years to plan out. They don't have that time.

I don't think they can renegotiate revenue sharing unless it's giving a bigger piece of the already bigger piece of the pie that Texas gets. They aren't going to take less money to stay when they can make significantly more in the Pac-10 or Big Ten.

The Big 12 seems to be a pretty weak alliance with the revenue sharing the way it is though. There is clearly some resentment over it, especially from Nebraska.

This is why it's absolutely essential that all conference teams share the major sources of revenue. Ohio State still makes a lot more money than most other schools in the Big Ten but the revenue sharing keeps everyone happy and at least somewhat competitive revenue wise. That's why something like this would never happen to the Big Ten.

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Looks like Nebraska is Big Ten bound and the whole Big 12 is falling apart. The Pac-10 will be the first super conference.

Scary days for Missouri right now. They'll probably get invited too but it seems odd that there isn't really any talk of it right now.

I'd imagine that Rutgers and a final answer on Notre Dame are the next dominoes to fall.

Syracuse and Maryland may also be in the mix.

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i think this would be a great big ten conference school-wise. a great, strong midwest-based conference. notre dame belongs in this conference and should make this happen ASAP.

I have a question on the Big 10, let's say Notre Dame comes and says we will not go to a conference at this time, does the Big 10 still go after Missouri. I know there has been talk all along the Missouri would go Big 10, but since the Big 10 has Nebraksa now and let's say can't get somebody else, do this stick with just getting Nebraska and that's it. 2 divisions of 6 or still take Missouri and have 1 division have an extra team.

One more question since the Big 10 can now have a title game, where do you play that at, Lucas Oil Field where the Colts play, make the Mac title game on a Thursday and play at the Ford Field where the Lions play, because I would think you would want the game inside, maybe not.

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I agree with this.

One question that had crossed my mind is why not Boston College? Fairly good school - opens up Boston to the TV markets...

Fairly good school?

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Not sure which way you were headed but....in the latest US News rankings:

It's a Tier 1 school, ranked 34th in the nation. above even the University of Illinois (at 39th)

Colorado has accepted the offer to join the Pac-10.

The Big 12 is done.

I was kinda scratching my head with that statement too, Vince. I assume he was being sarcastic. BC is a great school.

Why don't Texas and Oklahoma go independent? It sounds weird at first but they are nationally known and could package themselves together with their own TV deal.

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Re: Missouri... I'm with you. I'm not sure what the Missouri attraction is now.

Re: Playoff... didn't Big 10 officials say they don't want a conference playoff? But then again, I'm having a hard time seeing how they can avoid it with so many teams.

You are right... they only difficult thing might be scheduling and Bowl tie-ins, but I think they pull enough weight to overcome that obstacle. Or at least they would still make enough money through TV contracts to make up for that.

Well, I would think the Big 10 wants to stay at an even amount of teams.

It'll be interesting to see if they get more aggressive now with expansion now that the PAC 10 looks like they'll try to become the Pac 16. I'd love to see the Big 10 pull in ND and Rutgers and call it a day.

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Oklahoma St looks to be the next one gone to the Pac 10.

Texas and Texas A&M are meeting today and supposedly A&M is trying to convince Texas to go with them to the SEC.

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The only way we can fix this is to get the federal government involved... this is worse than the oil spill.

I agree... I really want ND, but if they can't do it, then I'd prefer we stay at 12... even if the Pac-10 and SEC go to 16 each. With the Big 10 Network money and our bowl tie-ins, I'm not sure the Big 10 is pressure to add any more teams..

Man this stuff down here in Big 12 country is getting crazy. I tuned into a KC sports talk show this afternoon and they had a report on there that the reason Mizzou was left out of the deal was that Texas and Texas A&M are meeting today to petition the Big 10 for entrance. They supposedly soured on the idea of the Pac 10 since they selected Colorado first when they both wanted Baylor to be considered for that spot. They also say that OU is wanting to go to the SEC and is putting a lot of pressure on Okla St to not go to the Pac 10 but to stick with them and joining the SEC.

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Nebraska, Texas, Texas A&M, Rutgers, and Notre Dame would be a complete home run.

Even if they substitute a Big East team for Notre Dame it still would be.

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I heard that too right here:
http://kctv.m0bl.net/w/main/story/11576649/

Completely agree.

They also reported that up until yesterday morning Mizzou was under the impression they were getting the same deal as Nebraska and they had the rug pulled out from under them and the scene in Columbia ysterday afternoon was described as "nuclear winter."

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If this happens I'd love to read a book as to exactly how this whole thing went down.

The subplot of Missouri wanting to get out of the Big 12 to get away from Texas only to have Texas leave the Big 12 and freeze out Missouri would be worth it on it's own. Obviously that's far from a done deal but wow.

Just wait until the lawsuits start.

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I might get the scoop in the Fall. I regularly tailgate with a Big Ten admin guy (on the basketball side). He won't tell (and I'd feel odd asking) now, but I think after a few beers in the Fall I'll get the scoop.

orangebloods.com is reporting today that it is a done deal -- Texas, Texas Tech, OU, and Okla St. are going to the Pac 10 now that Nebraska has made it official. The regents at Texas are having a meeting on Tues and it is believed it will be announced after that meeting that they are going to the Pac 10. Texas A&M is holding out as of now and is still considering the SEC. If that happens it looks like either Kansas or Utah will take their slot in the Pac 10/16.

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I found the response from the president and AD at ISU comical, to say the least...

ISU officials disappointed by Nebraska's decision

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