in the words of larry s, CRAM IT


did anybody else wanna puke up all thier turkey and stuffin after listening to all the love for tony romo and the cowboys? wow...the beat the 3 win bucs...way to go.

i actually heard aikman say that they were the best team in the NFC. better than the 1 loss bears..

listen here media cocksuckers...its chargers, bears...then everyone else.

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FK the Cowboys and T.Aikman. The Bears destroyed bad teams just like the Cowboys did today. All we heard was how bad the other teams where.
Today they made it seem like the Cowboys had just whooped on the Seahawks (with M.Hassleback), Giants in NY or the Jets after a big win against NE.
Oh wait they where playing a HORRIBLE TB team after they squeaked by IND at home.

Homo Romo and Co. can go blow their wad in a madden turkey!

I was listening to SNR last night with old local guy Mark Vasko and the topic was "Do the Bears have competition for the best team in the NFC?"

Didnt this same Dallas team lose to terrible Washington team a couple of weeks back?

Did anyone hear Rich Eisen (or was it Mooch) that said Champ Bailey was the BEST defensive player in the NFL?

I wanted to throw my turkey leg into the TV, but instead I ate it. Burp.

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Right here. I was hoping they'd pick Romo 10 times, and instead that cocksucker throws 5 touchdowns. Jesus fucking Christ; we had to hear about him nonstop last week, just imagine how much worse it will be next week.


Yeah, nevermind those brutal losses early in the season. They don't count, because our collective memory goes back no further than 2 weeks.

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As an owner of Romo in my fantasy league I give thanks for the sixty and seven points he hath rendered unto me.

What crazy ass league would give you 67 points? Good lord.

6 points for each TD, points for a pass over 40 yards and 300 yards passing adds up. The guy had a great day.

I am in another league where the point system is very different. I prefer the big scores. When you lose, you know you lose rather than sitting back and worrying about losing by .8.

gd, what do you get for pass over 40, 2 additional? 300 pass = extra 5 pts? Sounds like some of the older scoring we used to use in my dynasty league. I'm with you. I prefer that much more than this stupid decimal point shit.

Nas - Your guys are getting the shaft, plain and simple. I don't know why either. The Bears are bringing in ratings. I really dont get it

Our league, Ryan. There have been several 60+ QB days in our Yahoo league. And Manning has had a 75 pt. day. In fact, I think he might just be due for another one this week against the Woodridge Warriors.

Oh I know Coast....That was a jab (wink, wink if you will) at our league.

The praise for Dallas occurred because you were watching the Dallas game. There is an awful lot of love for the Bears by the announcers that do Bears games, just as there is for the Chargers and Colts by the announcers on those games, etc. It's what announcers and media DO...they praise the best team on the field at the time.

And as far as your continuing strawman arguments about the Bears, there are a LOT of opinions about the Bears. The "national media" is not one consistent voice. It's a lot of people with different thoughts. Just as there are a lot of Bears fans with different thoughts. I recall that when the Bears blew out Seattle, all I heard was the media proclaiming how great they were. I heard the same thing when they beat the Giants They are the #1 team on several guys's lists. You are confusing the comments of a minority of Chicago fans and some media guys with the adoring media who announce and cover their games. Besides...who the F cares? Damn. You guys are more sensitive about "respect" than the players who use that crap.

This pathology of Bears fans is hilarious. Some fans look for reasons to bitch that their team really isn't that good, and other fans look for reasons to bitch about the comments of those fans and the media who may see things differently. There's not enough love. There's never enough love. So let's create strawmen arguments to bitch some more. Can't you guys just freaking enjoy a season without all the DRAMA?

The Bears are a good team. Are they the best? Who the F cares. That kind of argument is senseless. That is decided in February. Period.

HAHAHA! Coast, you are so right. I don't think its a Bears fans thing, its a Chicago Sports fans thing. Same shit with Sox, Cubs, etc. This is exactly why that if the Colts and Bears play each other in the Superbowl, I will not be in this area for a week after the game (not like that''l matter too much). If the Bears win, the shit talking will be ridiculous. If they lose, they'll come running to me and telling me how they got screwed or how they're still better than us or some shit. I wouldn't bother them either way, but I know they can't help themselves. I do the same thing as a Cubs fan or even a White Sox apologist from time to time. I don't know what it is about Chicago Sports fans. I think its the whole Second City thing.

It was Chris Collinsworth. It made me throw up in my mouth.

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You don't know what the hell you are talking about. I am a fan of some teams, including the Bears. So please don't suggest to me or anyone how a "fan" should behave or think. Are you a better fan than I because you get so worked up about it? If that's important to you, fine. You win the prize. All I know is that SOME Bears fans want to pick at SOME in the media for what they do or don't say or the love they do or don't give to the Bears. It's apparent SOME Bears fans need more love in their life. I'd suggest they find a woman or get a dog because looking to the media for it is the wrong place.

and no NAS...as one who has lived in six major league cities, ALL fans in all cities do NOT behave this way

Its not a big deal Nas. I'm a Cubs fan and know I do it. The majority of people in St. Louis, Kansas City, Detroit, Indianapolis, and Denver for example don't have this inferiority complex as a fan. Chicago fans do. Most them have even admit it.

What kind of comment is that? I think Coast is just the voice of reason and he's able to separate his thoughts without being clouded or biased.

I'm with Coast on this one. We're way too sensitive. Many media members have praised the Bears. But if one guy says they like the Cowboys to win it all we all get pissed. So what. That's their opinion. Hey the Cowboys are a talented team. In 2001 and 2005 Bears fans said they didn't get respect. Guess what. We got bounced at home after a bye. So maybe they were all correct.

We have playoffs. It will all be decided there. I like the Bears chances but if somebody else doesn't then who cares.

With that said, I think we all can agree that the national media has been really searching to pick anyone else in the NFC, but the Bears. One reason for that is with the Bears having such a huge lead in that conference they have to figure out a way to make talk in the NFC interesting. What's going to get people to open up their ears then to hear some announcer say there's a team with three more losses than the Bears that are better than them? You got to let some of this stuff roll off your back. Its not a specific attack on Chicago or anything.

The whole, "the media hate's us" argument reeks of 2nd City Self Pity. People I know in other cities and on another message board are sick of hearing about the Bears, not that they dont think their good, but just sick of hearing about them, and I think even more people are sick of seeing Rex. Also, think about who's saying this stuff, most of these "experts" are brutal and wrong the majority of the time. Do you remember anything else Aikman said yesterday, no, of course not, because he sucks. Brilliant sports mind Cowherd said this morning the Bears are lucky to be ranked his 5th best NFL team, he put the Giants at 4 and the Cowboys at #1. He said this is how teams are currently playing, forgetting about the Giants past two weeks I guess. He also said the Bears beat up on bad teams, while praising the Cowboys for an impressive win yesterday, he constantly contradicts himself, many of these guys are sports shock jocks, just sayin stuff for attention, Steve Young accused Irvin of it a few weeks ago.

Nas, the point Coast and I are trying to make is that Chicago fans act a certain way about this stuff that most cities' fans don't. A lot of your Chicago brethren agree to this. There is definitely a 2nd City inferiority complex thing goin on a lot.

No problem. I do find it surprising you don't find Coast to be pretty objective in his posts though. Maybe I'm not reading all of them or something...

For me, this has little to do with how the media supposedly ignores or disparages the Bears, and a lot to do with its obvious want to suck Cowboy dick. It's just irritating to hear about the freaking Cowboys nonstop. Early on, it was Parcels; then it was TO v. Parcels; then it was Romo vs. Bledsoe; now it's apparently Romo vs. God. The whole thing makes me want to puke, and I'm of the opinion that anyone who is claiming the Cowboys as the best team in the NFC based on their last 5 weeks is nuts.

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I don't like my food to touch.

Oops, my bad, wrong thread....

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Matt, that's an excellent point. This goes all the way back to the TO signing. You're absolutely right. ESPN can't get enough of the Cowboys and as much as I despise Peter King, he called ESPN out on their ridiculous Cowboys coverage. No doubt, ESPN will latch on to whoever wins the NFC East.

and no NAS...as one who has lived in six major league cities, ALL fans in all cities do NOT behave this way[/quote]

No disrespect C2C, but don't Boston fans and New York fans have the "constant agnst" we Chicago fans do? I've heard many a Patriots, Red Sox and Yanks fan have the same patterns of bitching we do.

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Maybe so, Bumpkin. I haven't lived in those places so can't speak first hand. I know they seem to have a high sense of competitiveness with each other. But do fans in Bos and NYC feel inferior about being slighted by national media as Chi fans seem to do? Can't speak to that.

Nas...people in all media are entitled to have opinions. There is no rule that says anyone from any media is not entitled to express an opinion. There are a lot of national media types that love the bears, some that think they are the best, and some that think they aren't the best. So what? It's no different for the Bears than any other team. There are a lot of different opinions in the national media about most teams. Why is it so important to you that all media types share your opinions about your team?

They get the benefit of the "East Coast bias."

To further your point Coast, you said that you heard the media proclaiming how great the Bears were after the Seatlle and NYG games. All I heard were excuses about how the teams were decimated by injuries, and that's why the Bears won.

And, it's not just the media. Look at this message board after a game. I think it's safe to say that we're all at least casual Bears fans. Look at all of the differing opinions that get thrown around here (they looked good, bad, mediocre, play Jones/play Benson, etc).

The "media" has A LOT of air time and newspapers to fill. They throw a ton at the wall and see what sticks. When something does, they pound it into the ground.

Bottom line is, only the games really matter. When the Bears win the Superbowl, who cares if they were respected during the season?

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This all comes down to ratings and what is the best story. When the Bears were killing everybody and undefeated the story was the Bears and how far can they go. That bone had meat on it. When they lost, that couldn't be the story anymore and they had to search for what the story could be. The networks salivate when the Giants, Cowboys, Redskins and to a lesser extent I'd say Jets, Eagles and Raiders are in the middle of things since they are traditional powers and have huge fan bases. So, now that the Cowboys are showing some life, the networks are all over it.

I don't take it as a slight to the Bears as much as those guys just have too much time to talk and have to fill it with something. Filling it with talk about a team with a 3 game lead in the conference doesn't glue anybody to the screen.

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