Frank, I'm starting to think Mark Kotsay or lefty Erick Threets may be the odd man out when Mark Teahen comes back at the end of this month from his broken index finger.

Hopefully it's Kotsay

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Guys, Dayan Viciedo may be the White Sox answer to the Red Sox' Kevin Youkilis, playing first base and third from time to time, Brent Lillibridge gives Gordon Beckham at second base and Alexei Ramirez at shortstop a breather, and they're not about to move Omar Vizquel off third base.

Hudson's starts until the trade deadline should be Mariners, A's, A's. If he can't get it done against those lineups it will be time to get another starter, but not until the very end of the deadline. If the Sox play the days off correctly Hudson's next start after the trade deadline will be the Orioles. That's four nice starts to get his feet wet.

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The lack of left handed power will hurt them, especially against teams with good late inning right handed relievers. Valverde, Rauch, Bard, Rivera, Feliz. All tough on righties.

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I'm on board with Berkman, maybe even more than Dunn. I would really like to see the Sox be willing to take on salary in exchange for having to trade little as far as minor league talent.

Rios
Berkman
Konerko
Quentin

That's a nice middle of the order. I would like to see Beckham moved back up to 2nd with that group behind him. Ozzie would put AJ at 7 for L/R purposes which moves Alexi to 8 which seems too low. I really think Ozzie will also play Teahan when he comes back because he loves L/R balance.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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The problem is solved if you have Kotsay coming off the bench full time. His best role is as a left handed pinch hitter.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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Sorry, I meant to say a good left handed power hitter.

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Except from Joe Cowley today:

"According to a major-league source, Williams spent the last few days trying desperately to pry Adam Dunn from the grasps of the Washington Nationals, offering up "anyone and anything he has in the minor leagues in a package.''
And no one is untouchable, including pitcher Daniel Hudson or infielder Dayan Viciedo."

Does that sound like Kenny to you? "Desparately" is not a word I would use to describe Kenny, but I do believe he wants Dunn.

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The asking price for Adam Dunn is still very steep, and this guy DOESN'T WANT TO BE A FULL-TIME DH! Besides, Dunn tends to strikeout as much as he homers. Two words...Rob Deer.
He's not worth dealing 2B Gordon Beckham, RF Carlos Quentin and whatever the hell the White Sox have left in their minor league system!

That's just baseball stupid. Rob Deer has a career .766 OPS. Adam Dunn's is .906 with a .383 OBP. Who cares if he strikes out alot? He also walks alot and homers alot. His defense is a concern, yes, but you go all in for this guy. And if Kenny's plan is to sign him, you absolutely give up Beckham. A light hitting middle infielder for a high OBP/SLG/OPS player? In a second.

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Who plays second base if Beckham gets dealt, John? Brent Lillibridge hasn't proven to be a capable replacement, Omar Vizquel's found a new home at third base, and C.J. Retherford's terrible at Double "A" Birmingham. Besides, Jayson Nix now plays second base for the Indians...

This.

You rotate him between LF, 1B and DH this year and if you can re-sign him, it gives you an option to replace PK at 1B.

KOs are very over-rated from a hitting perspective, esp. from someone who walks as much as Dunn.

You don't deal Beckham or Hudson, but I put anything else up for grabs.

You could almost make a case that you rather have Adam Dunn than Ryan Howard right now.

Compare their last two years:

09 & 10 Howard .287avg .359 OPB .918OPS and an OPS+ of 138

09 & 10 Dunn .274avg, .390 OPB .936 OPS and an OPS + of 147

Both guys are the same age. I don't know why people don't talk about Dunn that much. He's really, really good.

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Team Cutler.

Who the hell cares? Throw your best defensive guy there and have him hit 9th. You haven't been getting crap out of Beckham anyway. You just upgraded your offense CONSIDERABLY.

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Beckham is 23 yrs old and under team control for 5.5 years. Dunn is a 30 year old DH who is looking for a 4yr $60M deal after the season. It would be baseball retarded to make that trade.

I agree, especially considering they could have had Thome, who does pretty much the same thing as Dunn, for almost nothing and kept him away from the team they had to beat as well. Ozzie wanted Kotsay, Pierre, and Lillibridge to DH.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

And sucks

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Do you really believe that?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

But it's a good point. Depends on whether Kenny is focusing on winning now or long term. If he doesn't plan to sign Dunn, then I wouldn't trade Beckham.

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I think he'll end up being an above average 2B. Is he Chase Utley or Ryne Sandberg? Hell no.

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Bautista from Toronto would be a ncie option, reports saying Sox are looking at him as well

Would really rather have a left handed hitter.

Nice option, probably comes cheap, but unless he the replacement of a Quentin trade to Washington or whatever, he doesn't fill the need of a good left handed bat.

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i think a little more power from either side would be beneficial, obviously the lefty is preferred....i just don't know how big of a fan i am to trading beckham and hudson for fielder

Rumblings continue to surface about a possible three-team deal involving the Nationals, White Sox and Diamondbacks that would send Edwin Jackson to Washington, Adam Dunn to Chicago and a bunch of young pitchers to Arizona.

Baseball reference says that his nickname is Big Donkey. I support giving up whatever we can to get him.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Where are the young pitchers coming from?

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

The Sox and Nats.

Gotta be Hudson, right?