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Elmhurst Steve

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:23 pm

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Elmhurst Steve wrote:

If you extrapolate their winning percentage (.583) over 162 games it comes out to 94.4 . That said, I think it's reasonable to believe they may fall a game or two below that total. So lets say they win just 92...the Sox would have to go 27-15 the rest of the way, to get to that total. With the remaining games VS the Twins (4) Red Sox (4) and Yankees (3) mixed in, that is one hell of a task. For the Sox to win just 27 of the 42 remaining games, they need to win at a .642 clip. Thats WAY over their season win %. Once the division has been clinched, the Twins will likely use bench players and starters from their September call-ups in a few games, so yeah...I wouldn't bet the over on the 94 win total myself. But I would bet the under on the Sox winning even 90.

I'm not living in fantasyland believing the Sox can actually win this thing, Steve. But even though the Sox appear to have the tougher schedule, a whole lot of it is at home. And the Twins play most of their remaining games away where they're just two games over.

Thats a real solid point Joe. The Sox have done much better at home. But as much as the Twins are not as good on the road, they seem to be on a roll the past few weeks (winning 7 of their last 10 on the road) . Whether that continues, remains to be seen. Injuries, a spectacular contributions by a team's September call ups...several things still may factor into it. But it doesn't look promising. The thing that gets me, is how guys that had been so good (pitching especially) suddenly went sour.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:41 am

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I still think the Sox have another hot streak in them- win 9 of 11, 12 of 16...something like that.

After this series though, probably not going to be enough to catch Minne.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:20 pm

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What's very disturbing in the first 2 games of this series is the fact the Twins have scored first in the bottom 1st and that the White Sox have been playing from behind much of the time. Let's see if tonight's starter Mark Buehrle can keep these Twins off the board if the rejuvenated Carl Pavano does the same tonight to the Sox in the top half of the very 1st inning.

What's also remarkable about these Twins is that they continue to win without key players. They've been without closer Joe Nathan all season, but they have also gotten use to playing without star first baseman Justin Morneau. Justin's season appears to be over, thanks to ongoing symptoms related to a concussion, which Justin suffered last month in a game vs. the Blue Jays in Toronto.

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sjboyd0137

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:25 pm

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Lineups in if anyone cares

Pierre LF
Vizquel 3B
Rios CF
Konerko 1B
Teahen RF
Ramirez SS
Kotsay DH
AJ C
Beckham 2B

Buehrle's chucking

I'm guessing they will lose

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:27 pm

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sjboyd0137 wrote:

Lineups in if anyone cares

Pierre LF
Vizquel 3B
Rios CF
Konerko 1B
Teahen RF
Ramirez SS
Kotsay DH
AJ C
Beckham 2B

Buehrle's chucking

I'm guessing they will lose

I think you're right...Carl Pavano threw a Mark Buehrle-like quickie vs. the White Sox on a Saturday night the last time he faced the Southsiders. It was over with in just around 2 hours.

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sjboyd0137

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:28 pm

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SHARK wrote:

sjboyd0137 wrote:

Lineups in if anyone cares

Pierre LF
Vizquel 3B
Rios CF
Konerko 1B
Teahen RF
Ramirez SS
Kotsay DH
AJ C
Beckham 2B

Buehrle's chucking

I'm guessing they will lose

I think you're right...Carl Pavano threw a Mark Buehrle-like quickie vs. the White Sox on a Saturday night the last time he faced the Southsiders. It was over with in just around 2 hours.

Yep, I remember that. It was over in time to go to the bar and forget about it.

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SHARK

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:30 pm

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sjboyd0137 wrote:

SHARK wrote:

sjboyd0137 wrote:

Lineups in if anyone cares

Pierre LF
Vizquel 3B
Rios CF
Konerko 1B
Teahen RF
Ramirez SS
Kotsay DH
AJ C
Beckham 2B

Buehrle's chucking

I'm guessing they will lose

I think you're right...Carl Pavano threw a Mark Buehrle-like quickie vs. the White Sox on a Saturday night the last time he faced the Southsiders. It was over with in just around 2 hours.

Yep, I remember that. It was over in time to go to the bar and forget about it.

If I recall, the game went so quick, WGN's CW9 aired an impromptu episode of the irritating Jim Belushi and "According to Jim" & "Family Guy", with WGN America airing yet another episode of "America's Funniest Home Videos" with Tom Bergeron because it only went around 2 hours...

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:22 pm

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Wins Above Replacement

AJ: .06

Aramis: -.02

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:25 pm

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:29 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

Wins Above Replacement

AJ: .06

Aramis: -.02

Not exactly.
Baseball Reference.com has:

AJ 0.4
Aramis -1.2

:shock:

pretty fucking bad.

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sjboyd0137

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

Wins Above Replacement

AJ: .06

Aramis: -.02

Not exactly.
Baseball Reference.com has:

AJ 0.4
Aramis -1.2

:shock:

pretty fucking bad.

Let's just call it what it is. They both suck.

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:37 pm

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Name WAR
Pedro Feliz -1.5
Carlos Lee -0.8
Justin Smoak -0.8
Mark Kotsay -0.6
Trevor Crowe -0.6
Casey Kotchman -0.4
Cesar Izturis -0.4
Melky Cabrera -0.3
Adam Lind -0.3
Jonny Gomes -0.2
Aramis Ramirez -0.2
Matt LaPorta -0.2
Todd Helton -0.2
Cristian Guzman -0.1
Mike Aviles 0
Jose Lopez 0
Jeff Francoeur 0
Skip Schumaker 0
Jorge Cantu 0.1
Ryan Theriot 0.1
Carlos Quentin 0.1
Bengie Molina 0.2
Howie Kendrick 0.2
Chone Figgins 0.2
Juan Rivera 0.3
Nyjer Morgan 0.4
Brad Hawpe 0.4
Jason Kendall 0.4
Matt Kemp 0.4
Troy Glaus 0.4
Rajai Davis 0.5
Garrett Jones 0.5
Hideki Matsui 0.5
Yuniesky Betancourt 0.6
Jason Bartlett 0.6
Alcides Escobar 0.6
Jhonny Peralta 0.6
Ty Wigginton 0.6
Lastings Milledge 0.6
Scott Hairston 0.6
A.J. Pierzynski 0.6

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:13 pm

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Second pitch of the game... Hawk bitching about the Ump. :roll:

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Irish Boy

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:14 pm

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He's bitching two pitches into the game :lol:

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Irish Boy

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:17 pm

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Two points. First, don't stop now boys: 1. Second, Vizquel the best he's even seen at slapping ground balls through the infield. :lol:

He's senile.

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

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Irish Boy wrote:

Two points. First, don't stop now boys: 1. Second, Vizquel the best he's even seen at slapping ground balls through the infield. :lol:

He's senile.

Question for you.
Does Hawk cost the Sox "new" fans?

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Irish Boy

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:21 pm

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Probably. He certainly doesn't help. And despite the caterwauling I hear all the time about "not being corporate" and all that, whenever the internetz runs one of those "who is the worst announcer in baseball" polls, Hawk Harrelson is always featured prominently. 100 Helens can't be wrong.

Don't stop now boys = 2

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Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

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Irish Boy wrote:

Don't stop now boys = 2

Nice keep me informed

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sjboyd0137

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

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Darkside wrote:

Irish Boy wrote:

Two points. First, don't stop now boys: 1. Second, Vizquel the best he's even seen at slapping ground balls through the infield. :lol:

He's senile.

Question for you.
Does Hawk cost the Sox "new" fans?

Yes

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Irish Boy

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:22 pm

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Don't stop now boys = 3

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Darkside

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:23 pm

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Irish Boy wrote:

Don't stop now boys = 2

Would love to see the final count, if you can please sir.
Thank you, for your support.

EDIT while posting this he said number 3.
Why in the world does he consider this phrase good luck when his team is skidding thru the mud since he started this shit??? :scratch:

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Home5licE

Post subject: Re: Time for the Sox to embarass themselves in Minnesota

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:25 pm

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Irish Boy wrote:

Don't stop now boys = 3

Mike Krukow from MVP Baseball wrote:

Fuck this shit is getting repetitive...meat.

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Irish Boy

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:25 pm

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So that was a good clean play, even though he didn't even go for the base? I need clarification here for when things are clean and when things are beanworthy.

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Keyser Soze

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:27 pm

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Wow an early lead. That's nice for a change.

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Keyser Soze

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:31 pm

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Wow a 1-2-3 inning. That's nice for a change.

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Rod

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:32 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Question for you.
Does Hawk cost the Sox "new" fans?

Yes, he's the only think keeping football the more popular sport.

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:33 pm