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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:46 am 
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My_name_1s_MUD wrote:
I'm having a hard time seeing many flaws with the new Divisions. All in all, I kinda think they did the best they could. If I'm a Wisconsin fan, I might be a little disappointed, but other than that, I think it looks pretty good.

They keep the axe and at least for the first two years of the arrangement, they get Nebraska. They are pissed about losing Iowa though.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:48 am 
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I agree. I don't know any way you don't get somebody upset. But, I see very little to complain about.

As Delaney said last night anyway, there are games missed each year with the current system and I don't remember any outcry.

So, a couple "rivalries" will only meet every other year or so. If anything that makes them more intense.

I would be in favor of "Rivalry Week" being the first game each year, though. That would be my only complaint.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:50 am 
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I agree. I don't know any way you don't get somebody upset. But, I see very little to complain about.


For some reason when they go to the 9 game schedule, i am expecting a second rivalry game created for each school and I'm predicting it will be a 'border war' for Iowa v Illinois.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:51 am 
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It's also pretty clear they set them up for Notre Dame to join with no changes. There was a quote how they have to consider future expansion too.

Notre Dame would join the division with Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue would be the "protected" rival. That would keep all three yearly games going. Rutgers would fit in nicely with the more Eastern leaning division.

I'm not saying that Notre Dame will join but it does fit in nicely.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:54 am 
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I'm obviously not unbiased in this, but out of Iowa, Illinois, and Northwestern... where is the "real" rivalry? I'd argue recently it's been Iowa-NU. But I think historically, it's probably Iowa-Illinois... especially if you throw basketball in the mix.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:56 am 
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It's also pretty clear they set them up for Notre Dame to join with no changes. There was a quote how they have to consider future expansion too.

Notre Dame would join the division with Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue would be the "protected" rival. That would keep all three yearly games going. Rutgers would fit in nicely with the more Eastern leaning division.

I'm not saying that Notre Dame will join but it does fit in nicely.


Agreed. If that's your original thought, kudos.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:57 am 
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Now are these divisions only for football, or are they for basketball too?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's also pretty clear they set them up for Notre Dame to join with no changes. There was a quote how they have to consider future expansion too.

Notre Dame would join the division with Michigan and Michigan State and Purdue would be the "protected" rival. That would keep all three yearly games going. Rutgers would fit in nicely with the more Eastern leaning division.

I'm not saying that Notre Dame will join but it does fit in nicely.


Agreed. If that's your original thought, kudos.
My guess is that Jim Delany had the thought before I did.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:13 am 
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Now are these divisions only for football, or are they for basketball too?

Formally it will be football only, but they will likely move to a similar arrangement as the Big 12 where you play each team on your side of the division twice and play a crossover once equaling 18 conference games.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:22 am 
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Now are these divisions only for football, or are they for basketball too?

Formally it will be football only, but they will likely move to a similar arrangement as the Big 12 where you play each team on your side of the division twice and play a crossover once equaling 18 conference games.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Now are these divisions only for football, or are they for basketball too?

Formally it will be football only, but they will likely move to a similar arrangement as the Big 12 where you play each team on your side of the division twice and play a crossover once equaling 18 conference games.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
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Irish Boy wrote:
Hawkeye Vince wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
Now are these divisions only for football, or are they for basketball too?

Formally it will be football only, but they will likely move to a similar arrangement as the Big 12 where you play each team on your side of the division twice and play a crossover once equaling 18 conference games.

Hawkeye Vince has taken the "Math by Elmhurst Steve" courses.


Iowa education. 16 games duh.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:40 pm 
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The more I think about these divisions the more it pisses me off. We are going to be missing out on all the potential Purdue and IU title games.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
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The more I think about these divisions the more it pisses me off. We are going to be missing out on all the potential Purdue and IU title games.


Yeah... I was thinking the same thing about us and Minny in the same light :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:21 pm 
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I realize they were trying to balance the power, but wouldn't it have made more sense to switch Wisconsin and NU?

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:55 am 
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Gloopan Kuratz wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the two divisions in the Big Ten will look like:

• Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Michigan State, Northwestern and Minnesota.

• Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois.



Swap Northwestern and Wisconsin


I already said this. Swapping them would keep them with their more traditional rivals. To me, Wisconsin kinda got the shaft.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Ten Divisions
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:10 am 
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Only reason Wisco got screwed was because of the distance they have to travel for games. But frankly, Wisco travels pretty darn good, so not really much to worry about. Balance wise, swapping NU for Wisconsin would have tilted it towards one conference essentially having cupcakes + Buckeyes. Balance was (and should be) the biggest factor in determining divisions. Swapping Wisconsin for NU would be a bad idea.


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