Tonight we have our first virtual "elimination game" as Boise State/Virginia Tech meet. Really though, Boise State may be in trouble because of such a poor schedule that unless we have a lot of 2 loss teams they may be on the outside looking in. You have to judge a team on how many big wins it has and how many bad losses it has. Boise likely won't have any bad losses but they certainly won't have the big wins either outside of tonight.

Before you say the standard response of "No one would schedule them. They can only play who is on their schedule. The system is unfair!" just keep in mind that they scheduled two BCS conference opponents and then a MAC team and a WAC team. Are you telling me that of the 60+ schools in the BCS conferences that none of them would play you? It's just really hard to justify a national championship contender that has played a total of two games against opponents that are ranked over someone like Alabama or Ohio State who will play at least double that.

Virginia Tech could still stay in the conversation with a close loss and then running the table. Boise is clearly out if they lose.

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To even drive the point home more, Miami has 6 top 20 teams on it's schedule including Virginia Tech. Is it better to go 5-1 or even 4-2 against all 6 of those tough games(not to mention the unranked teams are significantly stronger than the worst 6 teams on Boise's schedule) or to beat a top ten team and then a team that is likely to fall out of the top 25 on Tuesday?

One could argue that Miami going 9-3 is a great accomplishment than Boise going to 12-0.

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Hypothetical: Let's say that Bosie is up by 30 at the half (not probable, but possible)...do they run the score up in the second half knowing they need a huge statement game to have any chance at the national title game?

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I would try and win by as much as possible if I were them. The difference between 30 and 40 isn't probably much but the difference between 10 and 20 would be significant in my opinion.

Really though they need to become huge Virginia Tech fans after the game because an 11-1 Virginia Tech is the best thing that could happen for them. They still may get jumped though.

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Often, yes. They've been so desperate that they've taken to one-off road games. Teams will not play them.

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No one will play Boise State. They usually beat the ranked teams that they do play. Here is a program with a recruiting class that doesn't even rank in the top 50 yet they can play with anyone. They will go 12-0 this year & the NCAA & BCS committee will crap their pants.

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They have two opponents from BCS conferences. I hate this "No one will play them" crap. It's false. I'm sure if this year they said "Hey, average BCS conference team, keep all the money you would pay out to a MAC team and we'll come play you" that a team that struggles to fill the stadium for those poor games would do it.

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It's not crap. Here are some links to a few stories from last year about the Broncos quest to play BCS teams. They all have declined.
Karl Benson, the Western Athletic Conference Commissioner, says..."They're running into a situation where nobody will schedule them," Benson said. "Nobody will take them."

http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-11-06/s ... e-bcs-bowl[url][/url]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842 ... -play-them[url][/url]

http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2009/1 ... oise_state[url][/url]

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This isn't that hard. They have two BCS schools on the schedule this year. Therefore, "no one will play them" is false. Let me reiterate. You can't say "No one will play us" when two teams are playing you.

It's really easy to say things like that because who is going to refute it? I mean, it's not like Purdue is going to say "We would have played Boise State! They never called us!".

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Did you read the articles? except for Va Tech & Oregon State, every other BCS program has turned down Boiise States offer to play them...ON THE ROAD.

Here is another good one:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... oise110709[url][/url]

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Here is the other problem though. These schedules come out very far in advance. Purdue, for instance, is booked solid through 2015 and will likely be buying out a few of those opponents because of the new Big Ten scheduling and conflicts. Somehow though, you could lump Purdue in with the "no one will play them" card when it's simply a matter of scheduling far in advance. Why didn't Boise contact Purdue in 2006? They probably could have gotten a game there instead of Purdue going to play a game @Rice. It's stupid to try and schedule an opponent two years down the line and then complain that no one will schedule you. Purdue likely has one open date in 2016 and 2017 if the Big Ten goes to a 9 game schedule.

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Yes. I read the articles. It's still mostly crap and a convenient thing to say now. Can you at least acknowledge that a team that "no one will play" has somehow miraculously scheduled two BCS conference teams? Can you at least acknowledge that a majority of schedules are filled out further out than two years beforehand? Can you at least acknowledge that Boise State is still not scheduling well in that timeframe? Can you at least acknowledge that Boise State can say whatever they want and no one is going to refute it?

Blame the AD for poor scheduling and not some supposed right that Boise State should have it's pick of any school to schedule two years before the game simply because they are good now.

It's pretty clear you want to buy into the cute little story of the team that no one wanted to play(except 50% of the OOC schedule) and everyone is scared of. It's just a shame that it's a little bit of a truth and a lot of spin.

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They have enough cupcakes on their schedule.

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So I just checked Boise State's future schedules. In 2011, that one open date in the schedule was filled by Mississippi. That's right. For all the complaining that no one would schedule them they ended up getting someone to schedule them on the one open date they had for 2011. So basically, all those articles ended up being garbage because even with so few teams available with open dates so close they ended up getting an average team from the best conference in the country. They'll also be getting $900k to do it(pretty high for that type of game).

So Scorehead, do you now take back what you said since the one open date on the schedule that they supposedly couldn't get anyone to schedule ended up being scheduled? I await your acknowledgment of being wrong.

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Yes...I love the rags to riches stories...the little engine that could. This is exactly what I love about sports. I'm not ashamed to admit that.
Say what you will about spin, but every top ncaa football program has declined to play Boise State. That is a fact.
ESPN offered money & a prime time HOME TV game to any top program who would play the Broncos...they all said no.

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Sadly, Boise State has already filled it's entire 2012 non-conference schedule. That's right. One BCS conference school. This time last year they were crying that "no one would schedule them" two years in the future but for some reason they have already filled the whole schedule now for this time period.

There are BCS teams with open dates in 2012! Why is Boise State afraid to schedule them?

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That's not a fact. I've explained why. It even states in your article that many teams did not have an open date in 2011. Still waiting on you to acknowledge that they did in fact schedule a team in 2011 when supposedly "no one" would.
It's unfair to say that someone said no when they are contractually unable to play you because they already have a full schedule.

Keep on living in your dream world that Boise State is somehow unable to schedule anyone when all evidence points to the opposite. They are already booked for 2012.

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I see you are still posting Scorehead. Why won't you respond to the fact that you posted a bunch of articles that "no one would schedule them" but at the time that you were posting them(and since May) they've actually had an SEC team scheduled? Doesn't that pretty much mean your whole point was false since Boise State chose to schedule 3 non-BCS teams next season too.

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All of the top NCAA football programs were offered a home game on ESPN, & they all declined. In any case, Boise State is now an elite football program & they can beat anyone in the country.

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Well, obviously, Mississippi took the challenge and is paying them $900k for the privilege. They were right around 20th at the end of last season. So once again, you are wrong. I don't know how you can think otherwise. Just admit that teams will play Boise State and that they haven't had an issue filling out the schedule. They had one open date in 2011 and got a team coming off a top 25 team in the best conference in the land. My guess is that a majority of the top 25 from last year had already scheduled all four out of conference games prior to Boise State playing the "no one will play us!" card. Were they supposed to break contracts or something?

Do me a favor, just admit that you were completely wrong about it in every possible way and we can move on. It's ok. You bought into the PR campaign that they put on by making completely unprovable statements that looked good but in the end proved to be unneeded concerns since they got as many BCS opponents as they wanted.

The fact is that Boise State loves the fact that they only play two good teams a year. They'd be exposed in a better conference.

Let me say it one more time. Boise State, who were complaining about not being able to find an opponent and claimed no one would play them, was then able to schedule a top 25 opponent even with most teams having completely full schedules.

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I'm not sure what you are so angry about. Miss & Oregon State are not the top programs that were invited to play. You know who the top programs are...USC, Texas, Florida, Purdue...just wanted to make sure you were paying attention!

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So it's gone from "no one will play them" to three teams that may or may not have even had open dates when Boise was available wouldn't play them. This is the same USC that has 3 BCS conference schools scheduled in 2011 but is ducking Boise State for some reason. This is the same USC that was willing to travel to Hawaii this year.

No offense to Boise, but you can't just expect any team to rework everything for you just because you want them to.

Your definition of "no one" is strange.

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Yeah. It's funny how he's stating as fact that Texas, Florida, and USC wouldn't play them. As I said before, none of those schools are ever going to acknowledge whether or not it was even possible. As for Florida, they don't play anyone out of conference outside of Florida. Indiana would be turned down for a game as much as Boise was.

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When I say no one I mean the top programs, not the low end BCS programs like Miss & Oregon State.

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Since the quote was "no one" I will assume that you include Virginia Tech in that group. Therefore, your complaint seems to be that no top five teams would play Boise State.

Your statement should have been "Boise State was unable to schedule a top five team because most of them already had a full schedule or were working with a verbal agreement with another school about a meeting and that those teams didn't feel like breaking contracts to play Boise State". Unfortunately, the fact that a few teams couldn't play them for any number of reasons doesn't really fit into the "Boise State story" that everyone(any by everyone, I mean 5 teams) hates them and is afraid of them.

The funniest part of this thread is that you are complaining about nobody wanting to schedule Boise State and now you are downplaying the 4 nationally ranked teams that would play them last year, this year, and next year. Maybe the NCAA should pass a Scorehead rule stating that whoever wins the national title this year is required to play Boise State next year. Boise State even gets an extra game because you know, the whole problem they have that they filled their schedule with cupcakes besides that one game so they could complain.

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They should be able to add a game against USC this year during conference championship week. It would never be allowed to happen this late, but a smurf turf showdown for Boise who needs to play more legit teams and USC whose season is done regardless then because of reggie bush works for me.

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