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Why is BF deleting Hovas posts? What did I miss?

Hova told BF if you want me to leave I will. BF said OK, bye.

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Why is BF deleting Hovas posts? What did I miss?

Hova told BF if you want me to leave I will. BF said OK, bye.


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Why is BF deleting Hovas posts? What did I miss?

Hova told BF if you want me to leave I will. BF said OK, bye.


I changed my mind

Obviously, he didn't.

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Why is BF deleting Hovas posts? What did I miss?

Hova told BF if you want me to leave I will. BF said OK, bye.


I changed my mind

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Obviously, he didn't.


He changed that post. I never posted what you just quoted.


I might be inclined to believe precisely that.

I believe you posted something along the lines of you not saying you were leaving and that you allegedly would reference said post assuming it was also not deleted.

Edit 2: I have now seen post deletion with mine own eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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HOVA wrote:
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Obviously, he didn't.


He changed that post. I never posted what you just quoted.


Then why did you say you changed your mind? Why the two orders, Colonel Jessup?

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Daily complaints from the same 3 people for the last 2 weeks now, yes, EVERYONE is sick of them. People have sent me PM's with 'Why don't you just get rid of _____" because nobody wants to read your complaints. I don't delete them because they are about me, I delete them because it has just become old and boring.

This board is still pretty much anything and everything but EVERYONE has grown sick of HOVA bitching that his Pickem contest was removed, Irish Bitch , bitching that he claims I changed his wagering contest (which is still 100% wrong) anfd Free Ajent sitting in the corner yelling 'Yeah! That too!"

The issue with DB was a simple misundertanding, which I admitted to. I was unaware of the fact he changed his Avatar weekly. Darkside pointed it out to me and lifted the ban which was only 24 hours to start and ended up around 12 hours.

Here is your new rule HOVA. [b]If I don't like it, I will delete it. If you don't like it, there is the door, use it.[/b]



This has been fairly obvious for the last few months. I'll keep showing up until I'm not allowed to. Until then I'll post the same way I've posted for the last 5 years. If that way isn't acceptable around here feel free to let me know and I'll take my talents to south beach. Also I haven't even mentioned the league since that thread (3 weeks ago) but it apparently bothered you that I mentioned it in the first place. You haven't been able to let it go since that day. You constantly remind me of it. You even went so far to pull out your race card. For the record there have been WAY more than just 3 people with complaints/bitching recently.


Copy.

Though to be fair, you do set the stage for leaving.

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Yeah I was more focusing on the "If that way isn't acceptable around here feel free to let me know and I'll take my talents to south beach."

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Yeah I was more focusing on the "If that way isn't acceptable around here feel free to let me know and I'll take my talents to south beach."


BINGO!

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Can't quote you Don because I'm not allowed to quote now.

South Beach quote was a joke. Where would South Beach be? That only real if you missed the 2 sentences prior to that.[i]"I'll keep showing up until I'm not allowed to. Until then I'll post the same way I've posted for the last 5 years."[/i]


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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It's perhaps not the most direct way, but BF is in fact letting you know he's fine with you taking your talents to South Beach, so to speak.

I see both sides here; both have a point, and both are indescribably dumb. It is what it is.

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South Beach quote was a joke. Where would South Beach be?

Ah, since this is a SPORTS message board, we all know that to be a reference to LeBron James LEAVING Cleveland.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Don't get the wrong impression ... I'm not on either of your sides.

You've both been acting like 10-year old little bitches rolling around on the ground pulling each others' hair; BF just happens to be on top at the moment.

Nas/Hova as of late apparently can't wait for the next person to bait into a dumb argument - unless he's bitching about something. By the same token, he rarely makes things personal (including with me) and eventually quiets down. Plenty of other posters I find far more annoying or useless. Good guy.

BF as of late apparently can't wait for the next opportunity to wield his admin power in a way that, based on past experience, is particularly surprising and also distasteful. By the same token, a man has a breaking point and he takes a fuckload of stupid blows from stupid people (myself included) for stupid shit. Plenty of other admins I find far more annoying or useless. Good guy.

The bottom line is you both really need the living shit knocked out of you, then you need to quit acting like juvenille fucks, and finally get over each other as well as yourselves.

I'm confident I'm not the only one to feel this way. Apparently I'm the only one willing to state it in public however.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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I finally figured it all out. STU GOTZ and his children have stolen bigfan's password.

Only in Chicago could a team roll for nearly 500 yards, hold the other team to 150 and be considered lucky to win. If the Lions won that game it is they who would have lucked out. The Bears earned this one and I simply don't understand why I am the only one who feels that way.

By the way, those great Cowboys who the Bears will automatically lose to scored 7 tonight.

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After watching the Cowboys stink it up in Washington, I'm thinking the Bears have a chance Sunday.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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The Bears earned this one and I simply don't understand why I am the only one who feels that way.


You aren't. I stated earlier in the day I thought the defense played well and that Cutler for the most part had a real solid day.

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20 RUSHING YARDS ALLOWED! I know the Lions line is not good but that is a spectacular day.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 1/16
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Don't get the wrong impression ... I'm not on either of your sides.

You've both been acting like 10-year old little bitches rolling around on the ground pulling each others' hair; BF just happens to be on top at the moment.

Nas/Hova as of late apparently can't wait for the next person to bait into a dumb argument - unless he's bitching about something. By the same token, he rarely makes things personal (including with me) and eventually quiets down. Plenty of other posters I find far more annoying or useless. Good guy.

BF as of late apparently can't wait for the next opportunity to wield his admin power in a way that, based on past experience, is particularly surprising and also distasteful. By the same token, a man has a breaking point and he takes a fuckload of stupid blows from stupid people (myself included) for stupid shit. Plenty of other admins I find far more annoying or useless. Good guy.

The bottom line is you both really need the living shit knocked out of you, then you need to quit acting like juvenille fucks, and finally get over each other as well as yourselves.

I'm confident I'm not the only one to feel this way. Apparently I'm the only one willing to state it in public however.

The key is state it WELL. Show a little respect for us folks with less than stellar communicative ability, or in the bag like Crosscheck tonight. Touchy subject and you broached it better than most IMO.


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Bears winning today will combine with another should've lost em win or two to inflate the Bears record to 6-10 or 7-9 and the Bears will be stuck with Lovie and company even longer.

The Lions sorta won today in terms of the longer-term prospects of the franchise. Instead of 4-12 they'll now be lucky to go 3-13 (esp if Stafford is out a significant number of games) and they'll get another top 3 pick.

They should've anticipated being bad again this season and instead of drafting D-line this year traded down a couple spots and taken Eric Berry.

As good as Suh is, Eric Berry is probably the best defensive back in these few drafts and would've immediately greatly improved what is a terrible Lions secondary. And the 2011 draft class is filthy with D-linemen who the Lions could've then drafted.


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i think it's pretty evident forte was just hurt last year. he should be pretty solid.


What am I missing in not being a big fan of Forte? I cannot stand the way he runs the ball. His big runs only come when the opposing D has a serious brain fart and gives him 5+ yards of space through the secondary. His speed is + for his size, but he doesn't use his size as an asset. His is like a finesse runner stuck in a 225lb frame. Never going to be the 100yd/game grinder like Jones was. Hell of a player out of the backfield, but not at all impressive when running through the line.

I like Taylor a whole lot more, and I think he punches through with four attempts at the 1.


It has become apparent that under Lovie, you really cannot take to heart what you see in the Pre. Not over the moon, but I think once this team gels a bit more, they will win 7+ games. I feel decent. But they should be 0-1. No reason to think that the turnovers they had would have amounted to anything.

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Only in Chicago could a team roll for nearly 500 yards, hold the other team to 150 and be considered lucky to win. If the Lions won that game it is they who would have lucked out. The Bears earned this one and I simply don't understand why I am the only one who feels that way.

By the way, those great Cowboys who the Bears will automatically lose to scored 7 tonight.


Not sure they earned this one. Too many turnovers, too many penalties, the coach is, indeed, an idiot, and they barely won. They couldn't get 1 yard for a touchdown on 4 tries. They played the Lions that had a backup quarterback in and the defense sucked on that last drive. Any other team would have beaten them, so I think they were lucky.


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Only in Chicago could a team roll for nearly 500 yards, hold the other team to 150 and be considered lucky to win. If the Lions won that game it is they who would have lucked out. The Bears earned this one and I simply don't understand why I am the only one who feels that way.

By the way, those great Cowboys who the Bears will automatically lose to scored 7 tonight.


Not sure they earned this one. Too many turnovers, too many penalties, the coach is, indeed, an idiot, and they barely won. They couldn't get 1 yard for a touchdown on 4 tries. They played the Lions that had a backup quarterback in and the defense sucked on that last drive. Any other team would have beaten them, so I think they were lucky.

I tend to agree. All that stuff is bad, but then there's the general play of the offense and defense, which was good. But then you have to realize that it was against the LIONS. The next few games should be interesting. Aside from horrendous mistakes and bad decisions by Lovie, it will be interesting to see if the offensive production continues against better teams.

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I saw them starting the season 1-3 or even 0-4. The Cowboys looked bad last night so 2-2 is reachable.


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Spaulding is correct.

4 turnovers is unacceptable. And Cutler's INT (one of his only bad plays of the day) didn't even hurt that much. The fumbles killed drives and took points off the board.

If anything, they deserved to lose because Lovie is a moron. 1st & Goald at the 1 foot line, you run 3 QB sneaks. Odds are you get in. If not, you kick the FG and take the lead in the game.

The Bears won on a technicaility. Sure the D played great and the offense moved the ball, but there were dumb penalties, dumb coaching moves, and 3 fumbles lost. The Bears were lucky indeed. Lucky that a rule is worded the way it is, and lucky they were playing the Lions.

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Bears left a lot of points on the field and their turnovers led to Lions touchdowns. They dominated the game from beginning to end and still almost lost the game.


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I saw them starting the season 1-3 or even 0-4. The Cowboys looked bad last night so 2-2 is reachable.


Giants are an equally poor secondary to the Lions. That 4th game is very winnable.

This week becomes critical. Hopefully, the Cowboy offensive line remains injury depleted. They will need to shut down the run because I think the Cowboy recievers are too good for the Bear secondary, but a good pass rush will cut down on the passing game.

I don't see any way in the world they beat the Packers.

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I saw them starting the season 1-3 or even 0-4. The Cowboys looked bad last night so 2-2 is reachable.


Giants are an equally poor secondary to the Lions. That 4th game is very winnable.

This week becomes critical. Hopefully, the Cowboy offensive line remains injury depleted. They will need to shut down the run because I think the Cowboy recievers are too good for the Bear secondary, but a good pass rush will cut down on the passing game.

I don't see any way in the world they beat the Packers.


If Rodgers looks as mediocre as he did yesterday they can. Isn't that a home game?


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I saw them starting the season 1-3 or even 0-4. The Cowboys looked bad last night so 2-2 is reachable.


Giants are an equally poor secondary to the Lions. That 4th game is very winnable.

This week becomes critical. Hopefully, the Cowboy offensive line remains injury depleted. They will need to shut down the run because I think the Cowboy recievers are too good for the Bear secondary, but a good pass rush will cut down on the passing game.

I don't see any way in the world they beat the Packers.


The Bears WR's don't have a chance against the Cowboys secondary.
Bears should line Peppers up across from Baron. If they do, it might be a 6 hour game.

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I don't see any way in the world they beat the Packers.

Be at least +2 and preferably +3 or +4 in the turnover battle.

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I think the Bears would be better off with Sheaffer at right tackle than Omiyale, who has yet to demonstrate he is a legitimate NFL player. Sheaffer graded out as the Bears best offensive lineman last season.

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